Some facts for the Obama haters

PJ_Soul

Ah, hahaha. That is hilarious. And the fact that whatever coverage he did end up having was available specifically because of the ACA is even funnier.

CM189191

PJ_Soul said:

Ah, hahaha. That is hilarious. And the fact that whatever coverage he did end up having was available specifically because of the ACA is even funnier.

Close, work comp is federally mandated (gasp). But way before ACA. Work comp is not part of ACA.

PJ_Soul

CM189191 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Ah, hahaha. That is hilarious. And the fact that whatever coverage he did end up having was available specifically because of the ACA is even funnier.

Close, work comp is federally mandated (gasp). But way before ACA. Work comp is not part of ACA.

Oh, yeah, I really meant his insurance coverage in general.

HesCalledDyer

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

If anyone who has become ill or just hurt themselves EVER has thoughts like, "Hmm. I'm not sure if I have enough money to see the doctor/go to the ER/get a scan/etc", then nothing is hunky dory. I still can't believe Americans put up with a healthcare system that actually requires them to spend money for any required treatment. Even if they can get reimbursed later by their insurance company (and it sounds about as complicated as paperwork for the IRS btw, which is also shocking) ... How many millions don't have the money up front?? They already have enough to worry about without wondering how in the hell they're going to pay their hospital or doc's bill. It's just crazy.

I was just thinking this same thing. And with what people on here quote as their monthly insurance premiums, it's literally insane. $1600 or something for monthly insurance? WTF???

And you STILL have to pay for shit after shelling out that monthly premium.  The list of things that aren't covered is always longer than the list of things that are.  It's one of the biggest fucking rackets in US history.

HughFreakingDillon

HesCalledDyer said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

If anyone who has become ill or just hurt themselves EVER has thoughts like, "Hmm. I'm not sure if I have enough money to see the doctor/go to the ER/get a scan/etc", then nothing is hunky dory. I still can't believe Americans put up with a healthcare system that actually requires them to spend money for any required treatment. Even if they can get reimbursed later by their insurance company (and it sounds about as complicated as paperwork for the IRS btw, which is also shocking) ... How many millions don't have the money up front?? They already have enough to worry about without wondering how in the hell they're going to pay their hospital or doc's bill. It's just crazy.

I was just thinking this same thing. And with what people on here quote as their monthly insurance premiums, it's literally insane. $1600 or something for monthly insurance? WTF???

And you STILL have to pay for shit after shelling out that monthly premium.  The list of things that aren't covered is always longer than the list of things that are.  It's one of the biggest fucking rackets in US history.

I don't understand how people afford it. it's mind boggling to me. 

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

HesCalledDyer said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

If anyone who has become ill or just hurt themselves EVER has thoughts like, "Hmm. I'm not sure if I have enough money to see the doctor/go to the ER/get a scan/etc", then nothing is hunky dory. I still can't believe Americans put up with a healthcare system that actually requires them to spend money for any required treatment. Even if they can get reimbursed later by their insurance company (and it sounds about as complicated as paperwork for the IRS btw, which is also shocking) ... How many millions don't have the money up front?? They already have enough to worry about without wondering how in the hell they're going to pay their hospital or doc's bill. It's just crazy.

I was just thinking this same thing. And with what people on here quote as their monthly insurance premiums, it's literally insane. $1600 or something for monthly insurance? WTF???

And you STILL have to pay for shit after shelling out that monthly premium.  The list of things that aren't covered is always longer than the list of things that are.  It's one of the biggest fucking rackets in US history.

I don't understand how people afford it. it's mind boggling to me. 

Ditto. I think I'd be homeless under that system. Where are regular people finding the money??

HesCalledDyer

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

HesCalledDyer said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

If anyone who has become ill or just hurt themselves EVER has thoughts like, "Hmm. I'm not sure if I have enough money to see the doctor/go to the ER/get a scan/etc", then nothing is hunky dory. I still can't believe Americans put up with a healthcare system that actually requires them to spend money for any required treatment. Even if they can get reimbursed later by their insurance company (and it sounds about as complicated as paperwork for the IRS btw, which is also shocking) ... How many millions don't have the money up front?? They already have enough to worry about without wondering how in the hell they're going to pay their hospital or doc's bill. It's just crazy.

I was just thinking this same thing. And with what people on here quote as their monthly insurance premiums, it's literally insane. $1600 or something for monthly insurance? WTF???

And you STILL have to pay for shit after shelling out that monthly premium.  The list of things that aren't covered is always longer than the list of things that are.  It's one of the biggest fucking rackets in US history.

I don't understand how people afford it. it's mind boggling to me. 

Ditto. I think I'd be homeless under that system. Where are regular people finding the money??

Basically, you have sleep for dinner 3 times a week and avoid doing anything fun with the rest of your free time.

Go Beavers

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

HesCalledDyer said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

If anyone who has become ill or just hurt themselves EVER has thoughts like, "Hmm. I'm not sure if I have enough money to see the doctor/go to the ER/get a scan/etc", then nothing is hunky dory. I still can't believe Americans put up with a healthcare system that actually requires them to spend money for any required treatment. Even if they can get reimbursed later by their insurance company (and it sounds about as complicated as paperwork for the IRS btw, which is also shocking) ... How many millions don't have the money up front?? They already have enough to worry about without wondering how in the hell they're going to pay their hospital or doc's bill. It's just crazy.

I was just thinking this same thing. And with what people on here quote as their monthly insurance premiums, it's literally insane. $1600 or something for monthly insurance? WTF???

And you STILL have to pay for shit after shelling out that monthly premium.  The list of things that aren't covered is always longer than the list of things that are.  It's one of the biggest fucking rackets in US history.

I don't understand how people afford it. it's mind boggling to me. 

Ditto. I think I'd be homeless under that system. Where are regular people finding the money??

Basically, you have sleep for dinner 3 times a week and avoid doing anything fun with the rest of your free time.

Sure beats living under oppressive Socialism like those reds to the north!

HughFreakingDillon

Go Beavers said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

HesCalledDyer said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

If anyone who has become ill or just hurt themselves EVER has thoughts like, "Hmm. I'm not sure if I have enough money to see the doctor/go to the ER/get a scan/etc", then nothing is hunky dory. I still can't believe Americans put up with a healthcare system that actually requires them to spend money for any required treatment. Even if they can get reimbursed later by their insurance company (and it sounds about as complicated as paperwork for the IRS btw, which is also shocking) ... How many millions don't have the money up front?? They already have enough to worry about without wondering how in the hell they're going to pay their hospital or doc's bill. It's just crazy.

I was just thinking this same thing. And with what people on here quote as their monthly insurance premiums, it's literally insane. $1600 or something for monthly insurance? WTF???

And you STILL have to pay for shit after shelling out that monthly premium.  The list of things that aren't covered is always longer than the list of things that are.  It's one of the biggest fucking rackets in US history.

I don't understand how people afford it. it's mind boggling to me. 

Ditto. I think I'd be homeless under that system. Where are regular people finding the money??

Basically, you have sleep for dinner 3 times a week and avoid doing anything fun with the rest of your free time.

Sure beats living under oppressive Socialism like those reds to the north!

it's a horrible existence. it really is. 

oftenreading

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Beavers said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

HesCalledDyer said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

If anyone who has become ill or just hurt themselves EVER has thoughts like, "Hmm. I'm not sure if I have enough money to see the doctor/go to the ER/get a scan/etc", then nothing is hunky dory. I still can't believe Americans put up with a healthcare system that actually requires them to spend money for any required treatment. Even if they can get reimbursed later by their insurance company (and it sounds about as complicated as paperwork for the IRS btw, which is also shocking) ... How many millions don't have the money up front?? They already have enough to worry about without wondering how in the hell they're going to pay their hospital or doc's bill. It's just crazy.

I was just thinking this same thing. And with what people on here quote as their monthly insurance premiums, it's literally insane. $1600 or something for monthly insurance? WTF???

And you STILL have to pay for shit after shelling out that monthly premium.  The list of things that aren't covered is always longer than the list of things that are.  It's one of the biggest fucking rackets in US history.

I don't understand how people afford it. it's mind boggling to me. 

Ditto. I think I'd be homeless under that system. Where are regular people finding the money??

Basically, you have sleep for dinner 3 times a week and avoid doing anything fun with the rest of your free time.

Sure beats living under oppressive Socialism like those reds to the north!

it's a horrible existence. it really is. 

Oh, goodness, yes!

You really don't want to live like this. 
 

JC29856

Obama all time deportation record seems safe, at least for now

Despite President Trump’s push for tougher immigration enforcement, U.S. agents are on pace to deport fewer people in the government’s 2017 fiscal year than during the same period last year, the latest statistics show.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/deportations-fall-under-trump-despite-increase-in-arrests-by-ice/2017/09/28/1648d4ee-a3ba-11e7-8c37-e1d99ad6aa22_story.htm

Halifax2TheMax

JC29856 said:

Obama all time deportation record seems safe, at least for now

Despite President Trump’s push for tougher immigration enforcement, U.S. agents are on pace to deport fewer people in the government’s 2017 fiscal year than during the same period last year, the latest statistics show.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/deportations-fall-under-trump-despite-increase-in-arrests-by-ice/2017/09/28/1648d4ee-a3ba-11e7-8c37-e1d99ad6aa22_story.htm

Just another blown campaign promise by Trump and his brilliant bloated ass of hot air and incompetence. It's astounding how little Trump supporters know of obama's accomplishments.

JC29856

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

Obama all time deportation record seems safe, at least for now

Despite President Trump’s push for tougher immigration enforcement, U.S. agents are on pace to deport fewer people in the government’s 2017 fiscal year than during the same period last year, the latest statistics show.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/deportations-fall-under-trump-despite-increase-in-arrests-by-ice/2017/09/28/1648d4ee-a3ba-11e7-8c37-e1d99ad6aa22_story.htm

Just another blown campaign promise by Trump and his brilliant bloated ass of hot air and incompetence. It's astounding how little Trump supporters know of obama's accomplishments.

what made all the voters done got dumb in 9 years? chem-trails? 

The Juggler

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

Obama all time deportation record seems safe, at least for now

Despite President Trump’s push for tougher immigration enforcement, U.S. agents are on pace to deport fewer people in the government’s 2017 fiscal year than during the same period last year, the latest statistics show.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/deportations-fall-under-trump-despite-increase-in-arrests-by-ice/2017/09/28/1648d4ee-a3ba-11e7-8c37-e1d99ad6aa22_story.htm

Just another blown campaign promise by Trump and his brilliant bloated ass of hot air and incompetence. It's astounding how little Trump supporters know of obama's accomplishments.

I guarantee none of them are aware of this.

Halifax2TheMax

JC29856 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

Obama all time deportation record seems safe, at least for now

Despite President Trump’s push for tougher immigration enforcement, U.S. agents are on pace to deport fewer people in the government’s 2017 fiscal year than during the same period last year, the latest statistics show.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/deportations-fall-under-trump-despite-increase-in-arrests-by-ice/2017/09/28/1648d4ee-a3ba-11e7-8c37-e1d99ad6aa22_story.htm

Just another blown campaign promise by Trump and his brilliant bloated ass of hot air and incompetence. It's astounding how little Trump supporters know of obama's accomplishments.

what made all the voters done got dumb in 9 years? chem-trails? 

Republican cuts to public education, Faux News, alternate facts and overt racism directed at a black president. Chem trails are for conspiracy theorists. Slice anyone? 

The Juggler

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

Obama all time deportation record seems safe, at least for now

Despite President Trump’s push for tougher immigration enforcement, U.S. agents are on pace to deport fewer people in the government’s 2017 fiscal year than during the same period last year, the latest statistics show.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/deportations-fall-under-trump-despite-increase-in-arrests-by-ice/2017/09/28/1648d4ee-a3ba-11e7-8c37-e1d99ad6aa22_story.htm

Just another blown campaign promise by Trump and his brilliant bloated ass of hot air and incompetence. It's astounding how little Trump supporters know of obama's accomplishments.

what made all the voters done got dumb in 9 years? chem-trails? 

Republican cuts to public education, Faux News, alternate facts and overt racism directed at a black president. Chem trails are for conspiracy theorists. Slice anyone? 

Some people just care more about the republican party than their country. It really is a shame.

rgambs

JC29856 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

Obama all time deportation record seems safe, at least for now

Despite President Trump’s push for tougher immigration enforcement, U.S. agents are on pace to deport fewer people in the government’s 2017 fiscal year than during the same period last year, the latest statistics show.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/deportations-fall-under-trump-despite-increase-in-arrests-by-ice/2017/09/28/1648d4ee-a3ba-11e7-8c37-e1d99ad6aa22_story.htm

Just another blown campaign promise by Trump and his brilliant bloated ass of hot air and incompetence. It's astounding how little Trump supporters know of obama's accomplishments.

what made all the voters done got dumb in 9 years? chem-trails? 

GMO's

JC29856

Government officials told The Hill that the NRC was able to amend the export license affecting Uranium One because of two other decisions previously made by the Obama administration as part of a Russian “reset” in President Obama’s first term.

First, Obama reinstated a U.S.-Russia civilian nuclear energy cooperation agreement. President George W. Bush had signed the agreement in 2008, but withdrew from it before it could take effect after Russia became involved in a military conflict with the former Soviet republic of Georgia, a U.S. ally, and after new concerns surfaced that Moscow was secretly aiding Iran’s nuclear weapons ambitions.

Obama re-submitted the agreement for approval by the Democrat-controlled Congress in May 2010, declaring Russia should be viewed as a friendly partner under Section 123 the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 after agreeing to a new nuclear weapons reduction deal and helping the U.S. with Iran. 

“I have concluded: (1) that the situation in Georgia need no longer be considered an obstacle to proceeding with the proposed Agreement; and (2) that the level and scope of U.S.-Russia cooperation on Iran are sufficient to justify resubmitting the proposed agreement to the Congress,” Obama said in a statement sent to Congress.

Congress took no action, which allowed the deal to become effective 90 days later.

The other step that allowed uranium from the Russian-controlled mines in the United States to be exported came in 2011, when the Commerce Department removed Rosatom, Uranium One’s owner, from a list of restricted companies that could not export nuclear or other sensitive materials or technologies without special approval under the Export Administration Regulations.

cant say Rmoney didnt try to warm him!

https://youtu.be/QS2a44F5TgM

Halifax2TheMax

JC29856 said:

Government officials told The Hill that the NRC was able to amend the export license affecting Uranium One because of two other decisions previously made by the Obama administration as part of a Russian “reset” in President Obama’s first term.

First, Obama reinstated a U.S.-Russia civilian nuclear energy cooperation agreement. President George W. Bush had signed the agreement in 2008, but withdrew from it before it could take effect after Russia became involved in a military conflict with the former Soviet republic of Georgia, a U.S. ally, and after new concerns surfaced that Moscow was secretly aiding Iran’s nuclear weapons ambitions.

Obama re-submitted the agreement for approval by the Democrat-controlled Congress in May 2010, declaring Russia should be viewed as a friendly partner under Section 123 the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 after agreeing to a new nuclear weapons reduction deal and helping the U.S. with Iran. 

“I have concluded: (1) that the situation in Georgia need no longer be considered an obstacle to proceeding with the proposed Agreement; and (2) that the level and scope of U.S.-Russia cooperation on Iran are sufficient to justify resubmitting the proposed agreement to the Congress,” Obama said in a statement sent to Congress.

Congress took no action, which allowed the deal to become effective 90 days later.

The other step that allowed uranium from the Russian-controlled mines in the United States to be exported came in 2011, when the Commerce Department removed Rosatom, Uranium One’s owner, from a list of restricted companies that could not export nuclear or other sensitive materials or technologies without special approval under the Export Administration Regulations.

cant say Rmoney didnt try to warm him!

https://youtu.be/QS2a44F5TgM

Because there's never been deals made to strike a deal between 6 nations with varying interests to get to a nuclear arms deal with a country like Iran. One the EU, Britain, France, China, Russia and Iran remain committed to.

JC29856

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

Government officials told The Hill that the NRC was able to amend the export license affecting Uranium One because of two other decisions previously made by the Obama administration as part of a Russian “reset” in President Obama’s first term.

First, Obama reinstated a U.S.-Russia civilian nuclear energy cooperation agreement. President George W. Bush had signed the agreement in 2008, but withdrew from it before it could take effect after Russia became involved in a military conflict with the former Soviet republic of Georgia, a U.S. ally, and after new concerns surfaced that Moscow was secretly aiding Iran’s nuclear weapons ambitions.

Obama re-submitted the agreement for approval by the Democrat-controlled Congress in May 2010, declaring Russia should be viewed as a friendly partner under Section 123 the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 after agreeing to a new nuclear weapons reduction deal and helping the U.S. with Iran. 

“I have concluded: (1) that the situation in Georgia need no longer be considered an obstacle to proceeding with the proposed Agreement; and (2) that the level and scope of U.S.-Russia cooperation on Iran are sufficient to justify resubmitting the proposed agreement to the Congress,” Obama said in a statement sent to Congress.

Congress took no action, which allowed the deal to become effective 90 days later.

The other step that allowed uranium from the Russian-controlled mines in the United States to be exported came in 2011, when the Commerce Department removed Rosatom, Uranium One’s owner, from a list of restricted companies that could not export nuclear or other sensitive materials or technologies without special approval under the Export Administration Regulations.

cant say Rmoney didnt try to warm him!

https://youtu.be/QS2a44F5TgM

Because there's never been deals made to strike a deal between 6 nations with varying interests to get to a nuclear arms deal with a country like Iran. One the EU, Britain, France, China, Russia and Iran remain committed to.

agree but look what it lead to... the flipping of an election and the history of our world changed forever! it cant be overstated.
some are calling it cyber war, which could ultimately lead to real war, nuclear war and the destruction of our planet. potentially much bigger than democrats republicans and pee tapes.