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The Ladies Of Pearl Jam Calender To Benefit The Wishlist Foundation........

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    callencallen Posts: 6,388
    So is there as much objectifying backlash in "Ed is Hot Thread"?


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    deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    callen said:

    So is there as much objectifying backlash in "Ed is Hot Thread"?

    Yes.
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    whispering handswhispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    callen said:

    So is there as much objectifying backlash in "Ed is Hot Thread"?


    Sometimes... But mostly everyone just tells is we're obsessed crack heads for even HAVING THE THREAD. However Callen does make an excellent point with this statement.
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    deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    edited November 2014
    The term "hot" just makes me feel like we're treating people like a piece of meat. Are there beautiful people? Absolutely. There are many kinds of beauty and I don't need to step up onto that soapbox here. "Hot" just makes me think of cheap and dirty. Just my thoughts though.

    I admit that with the "Ed is Hot Thread," I quickly scanned and belted out a response. (I was running out the door.) I've never read it, so my apologies for answering something that frankly, I had no idea about. Whispering Hands has answered that from inside the thread, so I thank her for backing up the answer that I shouldn't have given.

    That said, I appreciate the OP trying to generate some interest in a fundraiser for Wishlist. She has been very accepting of suggestions given. Intentions are truly only wonderful and I applaud her and her project leaders for their efforts in trying to benefit Wishlist.
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    deadendp said:

    The term "hot" just makes me feel like we're treating people like a piece of meat. Are there beautiful people? Absolutely. There are many kinds of beauty and I don't need to step up onto that soapbox here. "Hot" just makes me think of cheap and dirty. Just my thoughts though.

    I admit that with the "Ed is Hot Thread," I quickly scanned and belted out a response. (I was running out the door.) I've never read it, so my apologies for answering something that frankly, I had no idea about. Whispering Hands has answered that from inside the thread, so I thank her for backing up the answer that I shouldn't have given.

    That said, I appreciate the OP trying to generate some interest in a fundraiser for Wishlist. She has been very accepting of suggestions given. Intentions are truly only wonderful and I applaud her and her project leaders for their efforts in trying to benefit Wishlist.

    i agree "hot" to me implies sexually attractive...i think thats pretty universal...but beautiful to me can include the disabled, the aesthetically unpleasing, those with talent and passion...etc
    OP has been very gracious and classy!
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    Leezestarr313Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,347
    There's a group of fb that is called "Things in the real world that remind me of Pearl Jam". People are posting a lot of funny things from all over the world. Maybe that could be something for a calendar too.
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    shetellsherselfshetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,789

    Just my two cents but objectifying women seems like the exact opposite kind of thing this band represents.

    Your hearts are in the right place but I think there are better and more noble ways to support this charity (or any charity).

    Yep.

    I'd love a "pearl jam with cats" calendar
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    rgambs said:

    deadendp said:

    The term "hot" just makes me feel like we're treating people like a piece of meat. Are there beautiful people? Absolutely. There are many kinds of beauty and I don't need to step up onto that soapbox here. "Hot" just makes me think of cheap and dirty. Just my thoughts though.

    I admit that with the "Ed is Hot Thread," I quickly scanned and belted out a response. (I was running out the door.) I've never read it, so my apologies for answering something that frankly, I had no idea about. Whispering Hands has answered that from inside the thread, so I thank her for backing up the answer that I shouldn't have given.

    That said, I appreciate the OP trying to generate some interest in a fundraiser for Wishlist. She has been very accepting of suggestions given. Intentions are truly only wonderful and I applaud her and her project leaders for their efforts in trying to benefit Wishlist.

    i agree "hot" to me implies sexually attractive...i think thats pretty universal...but beautiful to me can include the disabled, the aesthetically unpleasing, those with talent and passion...etc
    OP has been very gracious and classy!
    Agreed on the difference between the terminology - a good distinction.

    Also agreed on the OP's responses thus far (though not sure where the "some can't work with others" and anticipated trolling comments came in).

    Aside from reminders used at work through Outlook and the like, we too have a wall calendar as we tend not to keep that info on our phones, computers, etc. I like being able to see what's what, and it's a nice little yearly ritual to transfer important dates from the old version to the new.
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524

    Just my two cents but objectifying women seems like the exact opposite kind of thing this band represents.

    Your hearts are in the right place but I think there are better and more noble ways to support this charity (or any charity).

    Yep.

    I'd love a "pearl jam with cats" calendar
    Yes to this! Would love to see one of our kitties superimposed on-stage :D

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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,606
    edited November 2014

    Just my two cents but objectifying women seems like the exact opposite kind of thing this band represents.

    Your hearts are in the right place but I think there are better and more noble ways to support this charity (or any charity).

    Yep.

    I'd love a "pearl jam with cats" calendar
    Please stop objectifying cats
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    whispering handswhispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    hedonist said:

    Just my two cents but objectifying women seems like the exact opposite kind of thing this band represents.

    Your hearts are in the right place but I think there are better and more noble ways to support this charity (or any charity).

    Yep.

    I'd love a "pearl jam with cats" calendar
    Yes to this! Would love to see one of our kitties superimposed on-stage :D

    Hahaha!! That would be awesome!
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    hedonist said:

    Just my two cents but objectifying women seems like the exact opposite kind of thing this band represents.

    Your hearts are in the right place but I think there are better and more noble ways to support this charity (or any charity).

    Yep.

    I'd love a "pearl jam with cats" calendar
    Yes to this! Would love to see one of our kitties superimposed on-stage :D

    cats AND dogs...or just dogs lol ;)
    its a good idea...pets superimposed onto the stage, pets with expressions/actions that match song lyrics w/ the lyrics "behind" them, pets in PJ pj's, pets with expressions that match funny pictures of the guys...ive seen memes with these themes so its totally doable...how about a PJ meme calendar? Or as suggested, fan art. I have seen some beauties out there!
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    edited November 2014

    Please stop objectifying cats

    Oh, you KNOW they welcome and bask in it.

    Buncha "gaze upon and adore me" business.

    Unabashed!

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    whispering handswhispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    edited November 2014
    My cat is definitely a camera whore!!
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    Scooter being a camera whore! He knows he's cute!!
    I mean hot!! ;-)
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    deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434

    My cat is definitely a camera whore!!
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    Scooter being a camera whore! He knows he's cute!!
    I mean hot!! ;-)

    With all that fur, he should be hot! ;)
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    whispering handswhispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    He's super fluffy, but only medium length hair!
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,205
    Scooter is an awesome name! Our cairn terrier is named Gertie Lee. She'd be a good candidate for Ms.December.
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    whispering handswhispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    Yeah a pets Calendar would be really cool! And Gertie Lee is a great name as well!!
    We used to list our pets with our last name.. Til Pfifer Tomsen ( the GSD) got a Credit card offer in the mail! Lmao. We quit doing that after that! But still it was funny!
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,234
    Would the modern version of the band really have an issue with this? I mean, Ed married a model, after all.
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    badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255

    Would the modern version of the band really have an issue with this? I mean, Ed married a model, after all.

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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524

    Would the modern version of the band really have an issue with this? I mean, Ed married a model, after all.

    I don't know - I'm just going by their music/lyrics, stances on various issues, what I've read and seen over the years.

    The rest of it, including to whom they're married and why, is none of my business and respectfully suggest it have no part of this discussion.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,234
    hedonist said:

    Would the modern version of the band really have an issue with this? I mean, Ed married a model, after all.

    I don't know - I'm just going by their music/lyrics, stances on various issues, what I've read and seen over the years.

    The rest of it, including to whom they're married and why, is none of my business and respectfully suggest it have no part of this discussion.
    Well if people are going to suggest that the band would have an issue with it, I think context is important. I'm not trying to violate the "don't discuss the personal lives of the band", I am just saying that a calendar that isn't nude people doing it to feed their kids, I don't know if it falls into the same category, that's all. People do calendars like this all the time in good taste and for good causes. Men and women.

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    moretonbayfigmoretonbayfig Australia Posts: 805
    Has anyone from Wishlist Foundation seen this thread yet?! Please produce more Team McCready shirts.

    I'm sure that the 12 women who would volunteer for this project are in fact beautiful and interesting, but I wouldn't be interested in buying your calendar.

    Having said all that, I'm pretty sure this whole thread was started as a wind up... but certainly interesting to read what folks have to say about the topics at hand (Ewww... pun X_X )
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    Leezestarr313Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,347
    Another idea could be a calendar with photos of the Fan portrait project. I mean, they were taken at the WL preparties anyways. But maybe Tanya has already planned her own calendars?
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    hedonist said:

    Would the modern version of the band really have an issue with this? I mean, Ed married a model, after all.

    I don't know - I'm just going by their music/lyrics, stances on various issues, what I've read and seen over the years.

    The rest of it, including to whom they're married and why, is none of my business and respectfully suggest it have no part of this discussion.
    Well if people are going to suggest that the band would have an issue with it, I think context is important. I'm not trying to violate the "don't discuss the personal lives of the band", I am just saying that a calendar that isn't nude people doing it to feed their kids, I don't know if it falls into the same category, that's all. People do calendars like this all the time in good taste and for good causes. Men and women.

    If it is done in good taste I don't see what appeal it would have. We all see fully dressed, tastefully beautiful people every day, why do we need a calendar?
    If it is done in bad taste it would be appealing aesthetically but unappealing morally. Seems like a no win!
    Cats and dogs! Lol I know some rabid PJ fan has a picture of a cat sleeping on a shelf, hanging loose and just about to fall off. Slap some lyrics next to it "Comatose with no fear of falling" Boom there's your January!
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    on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,640
    Will the pets in this calendar be hot?
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    on2legs said:

    Will the pets in this calendar be hot?

    Where's the "oh no you didn't!" thingie?

    Liking some of the ideas here. Cheers to collective creativity.

    (by the way, as I'm slightly buzzed this afternoon, morteton's avatar completely threw me off and I thought, the fuck? Don't remember posting that :D)
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,234
    rgambs said:

    hedonist said:

    Would the modern version of the band really have an issue with this? I mean, Ed married a model, after all.

    I don't know - I'm just going by their music/lyrics, stances on various issues, what I've read and seen over the years.

    The rest of it, including to whom they're married and why, is none of my business and respectfully suggest it have no part of this discussion.
    Well if people are going to suggest that the band would have an issue with it, I think context is important. I'm not trying to violate the "don't discuss the personal lives of the band", I am just saying that a calendar that isn't nude people doing it to feed their kids, I don't know if it falls into the same category, that's all. People do calendars like this all the time in good taste and for good causes. Men and women.

    If it is done in good taste I don't see what appeal it would have. We all see fully dressed, tastefully beautiful people every day, why do we need a calendar?
    If it is done in bad taste it would be appealing aesthetically but unappealing morally. Seems like a no win!
    Cats and dogs! Lol I know some rabid PJ fan has a picture of a cat sleeping on a shelf, hanging loose and just about to fall off. Slap some lyrics next to it "Comatose with no fear of falling" Boom there's your January!
    I guess we have a different view on what constitutes good taste. Lol

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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    rgambs said:

    hedonist said:

    Would the modern version of the band really have an issue with this? I mean, Ed married a model, after all.

    I don't know - I'm just going by their music/lyrics, stances on various issues, what I've read and seen over the years.

    The rest of it, including to whom they're married and why, is none of my business and respectfully suggest it have no part of this discussion.
    Well if people are going to suggest that the band would have an issue with it, I think context is important. I'm not trying to violate the "don't discuss the personal lives of the band", I am just saying that a calendar that isn't nude people doing it to feed their kids, I don't know if it falls into the same category, that's all. People do calendars like this all the time in good taste and for good causes. Men and women.

    If it is done in good taste I don't see what appeal it would have. We all see fully dressed, tastefully beautiful people every day, why do we need a calendar?
    If it is done in bad taste it would be appealing aesthetically but unappealing morally. Seems like a no win!
    Cats and dogs! Lol I know some rabid PJ fan has a picture of a cat sleeping on a shelf, hanging loose and just about to fall off. Slap some lyrics next to it "Comatose with no fear of falling" Boom there's your January!
    I guess we have a different view on what constitutes good taste. Lol

    Hahaha well I am not claiming a cat calendar is particularly tasteful, but more so than a pin-up calendar!
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