Woolly Mammoth Cloned ?

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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    hedonist said:

    BLACK35 said:

    badbrains said:

    Can't fuck with evolution, not smart as jimmy said.

    agree 100%
    Agreed as well, but don't we do this already?

    Capital punishment, abortion, poaching, trophy hunting, etc.

    (also, who the fuck would bestow the name "Buttercup" on a WOOLLY MAMMOTH?)

    First off, I'm not pulling a JC in quoting myself :D

    But save for the Buttercup moniker question that whispering answered, again I ask how this would be any different from the above.

    And, B...Woolly Bully (the song) will always make me think of the scene from Splash, when Candy's character as a boy tossed coins on the floor of the boat so he could see a little something-something while picking them up. Loved that film!
  • We have evolved over thousands of years into our so-called self-imposed "civilized captivity". Mammoths have not. I know we fuck with nature all the time. Do I agree with those just because that's how things are? Nope. DonI live within that system and thrive as part of it? Yes, I do. But I wasn't thrust into it unnaturally. It has been part of our nature for a long time.

    The reason cloning gets a bad rap is because everyone knows the true motivation behind it: human entertainment and/or research and/or superego. There is absolutely no point to it. If someone were to tell me that they wanted to clone a (insert animal here) solely for pure reasons, with little to no negative impact on current eco-systems, I would be all for it. But that is nit the case here. Humans are egotistical assholes who think just because they can, they should.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    We have evolved over thousands of years into our so-called self-imposed "civilized captivity". Mammoths have not. I know we fuck with nature all the time. Do I agree with those just because that's how things are? Nope. DonI live within that system and thrive as part of it? Yes, I do. But I wasn't thrust into it unnaturally. It has been part of our nature for a long time.

    The reason cloning gets a bad rap is because everyone knows the true motivation behind it: human entertainment and/or research and/or superego. There is absolutely no point to it. If someone were to tell me that they wanted to clone a (insert animal here) solely for pure reasons, with little to no negative impact on current eco-systems, I would be all for it. But that is nit the case here. Humans are egotistical assholes who think just because they can, they should.

    I think it's wrong just because....but might they clone this animal to study it so that they may gain more understanding of this planets past in order preserve our future ? or some other legit reason ?

    Godfather.

  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    We have evolved over thousands of years into our so-called self-imposed "civilized captivity". Mammoths have not. I know we fuck with nature all the time. Do I agree with those just because that's how things are? Nope. DonI live within that system and thrive as part of it? Yes, I do. But I wasn't thrust into it unnaturally. It has been part of our nature for a long time.

    The reason cloning gets a bad rap is because everyone knows the true motivation behind it: human entertainment and/or research and/or superego. There is absolutely no point to it. If someone were to tell me that they wanted to clone a (insert animal here) solely for pure reasons, with little to no negative impact on current eco-systems, I would be all for it. But that is nit the case here. Humans are egotistical assholes who think just because they can, they should.

    We have evolved over thousands of years into our so-called self-imposed "civilized captivity". Mammoths have not. I know we fuck with nature all the time. Do I agree with those just because that's how things are? Nope. DonI live within that system and thrive as part of it? Yes, I do. But I wasn't thrust into it unnaturally. It has been part of our nature for a long time.

    The reason cloning gets a bad rap is because everyone knows the true motivation behind it: human entertainment and/or research and/or superego. There is absolutely no point to it. If someone were to tell me that they wanted to clone a (insert animal here) solely for pure reasons, with little to no negative impact on current eco-systems, I would be all for it. But that is nit the case here. Humans are egotistical assholes who think just because they can, they should.

    I think it's wrong just because....but might they clone this animal to study it so that they may gain more understanding of this planets past in order preserve our future ? or some other legit reason ?

    Godfather.

    absolutely!! Woolly Mams had a special blood adaptation that allowed them to endure extremely low temperatures. Studying the genetics of this adaptation could lead to a wealth of knowledge about who knows what. Science is fun, sometimes you go looking for A and you can't find it but you stumble across B which leads you to C and soon you have a whole alphabet of knowledge you didn't even expect to find. Cryogenics alone would make it worth studying in my opinion. It isn't just "playing god" it is probing the corners of the universe in an all-encompassing quest for knowledge!
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,987
    edited November 2014
    I just don't personally believe in breeding animals for research, nevermind "creating" animals for it. I believe it to be unethical. Not to mention unnatural.

    And no, I'm not a vegetarian, and I'm aware in some minds that makes me a hypocrite.

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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388

    Cloning is just wrong in my eyes. First off, nature ran its course on this particular mammal. Man had zero to do with its extinction. Second, cloning it for the purposes of research, also known as torture? Evil.

    We are very much part of evolution as well as how we affect this planet.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    If they actually could clone one, wouldn't it have to live in a germ free bubble to survive? Wouldn't it's genetic immunity system be set up for germs and viruses from 10,000 years ago?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    It may need to be kept isolated from other pachyderms, but I doubt it would encounter a biome so severely foreign that it would need the bubble boy treatment. I could be wrong, I am not an evolutionary biologist, but 10,000 years seems a relatively short period, even for quickly evolving organisms like bacteria and viruses.
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