California C&C Gun Restrictions

Godfather.

thought you all might find this interesting.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/12/new-court-decision-likely-ends-california-restrictions-on-conceal-carry-permits/

Godfather.

josevolution

Glad it's in California ....

Godfather.

"Some sheriffs are probably going to see this news as evidence their policies are wrong," he said. "But sheriffs and police chiefs in anti-gun jurisdictions may need more help seeing the light. We'll be happy to help them, even if it means going to the Supreme Court.

is this really happening ?????? I think I may cry........NAHHHHHHHHH
WOW ! the times they are a changing, that's one for the good guy's

Godfather.

josevolution

The more the merrier right GF more guns more guns more guns makes for a safer nation no ?

hedonist

I don't think it equals more guns per se, but more about removing the need to justify why one wants to CC (which I can't quite figure out how this would benefit anyone; it can't be that burdensome to explain why I'd make such a request...I mean, "for the hell of it" shouldn't cut it).

josevolution

I know just messing with GF , i'm an old hippie only peace pipes for me

CM189191

josevolution said:

The more the merrier right GF more guns more guns more guns makes for a safer nation no ?

Meanwhile, yesterday in California:

Homicide Detectives Searching for Clues After Teen Shot to Death in South L.A.

14-YEAR-OLD BOY SHOT, INJURED IN EL SERENO

Two men shot, one dead north of Fresno’s Roeding Park

...yup, definitely need more people carrying guns

usamamasan1

WOOT!

Stickman12

be interested to see what comes out of this. I personally dont agree with California's gun laws...but I dont live in California.

hedonist

ejleonjr said:

be interested to see what comes out of this. I personally dont agree with California's gun laws...but I dont live in California.

This could take road rage here to a new level (although it's already pretty bad/sad).

tempo_n_groove

CM189191 said:

josevolution said:

The more the merrier right GF more guns more guns more guns makes for a safer nation no ?

Meanwhile, yesterday in California:

Homicide Detectives Searching for Clues After Teen Shot to Death in South L.A.

14-YEAR-OLD BOY SHOT, INJURED IN EL SERENO

Two men shot, one dead north of Fresno’s Roeding Park

...yup, definitely need more people carrying guns

Absolutely has nothing to do with a conceal and carry law...

Godfather.

CM189191 said:

josevolution said:

The more the merrier right GF more guns more guns more guns makes for a safer nation no ?

Meanwhile, yesterday in California:

Homicide Detectives Searching for Clues After Teen Shot to Death in South L.A.

14-YEAR-OLD BOY SHOT, INJURED IN EL SERENO

Two men shot, one dead north of Fresno’s Roeding Park

...yup, definitely need more people carrying guns

Fresno.....or FRestucky as it is also known, if went to Frestucky I'd want a CC to protect myself from the freaks that seem to gather there, have you ever been to Fresno or Sacramento or east LA ? those place's are thick with gangbangers.

it's better to be armed and not need than to be unarmed and need it.


Godfather.

Godfather.

josevolution said:

I know just messing with GF , i'm an old hippie only peace pipes for me

and I respect your views and choices my friend...you old hippie you ! :-c

Godfather.

Godfather.

josevolution said:

Glad it's in California ....

California(maybe), Arizona, Texas so why do you think some states allow C & C ? and to be honest with you I am amazed that this is even being concidered in Cali but I also think it's about time, my brother n law was robbed right outside a bank after cashing his check,my uncle and his family were forced to the side of the road in long beach at about midnight by three cars and one of the drivers got out and said all I want is your girl(wife)but what they didn't count on was that he was a off duty officer with a gun and they ran so fast back to thier cars I don't think they had time to clean thier shorts out.

Godfather.

CM189191

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

josevolution said:

The more the merrier right GF more guns more guns more guns makes for a safer nation no ?

Meanwhile, yesterday in California:

Homicide Detectives Searching for Clues After Teen Shot to Death in South L.A.

14-YEAR-OLD BOY SHOT, INJURED IN EL SERENO

Two men shot, one dead north of Fresno’s Roeding Park

...yup, definitely need more people carrying guns

Absolutely has nothing to do with a conceal and carry law...

How so? In each of those examples, the person was carrying a concealed weapon (albeit, illegally). End c&c restrictions, and these incidents will inevitably increase in frequency & severity.

CM189191

Godfather. said:

CM189191 said:

josevolution said:

The more the merrier right GF more guns more guns more guns makes for a safer nation no ?

Meanwhile, yesterday in California:

Homicide Detectives Searching for Clues After Teen Shot to Death in South L.A.

14-YEAR-OLD BOY SHOT, INJURED IN EL SERENO

Two men shot, one dead north of Fresno’s Roeding Park

...yup, definitely need more people carrying guns

Fresno.....or FRestucky as it is also known, if went to Frestucky I'd want a CC to protect myself from the freaks that seem to gather there, have you ever been to Fresno or Sacramento or east LA ? those place's are thick with gangbangers.

So c&c is only for good for privileged white folk? There's a portion of our population who is disproportionately prosecuted for crimes, disproportionately falls below the poverty line. They don't have the means to purchase an expensive firearm, or pass a background check. Can't you see how this might exacerbate the problem?

Perhaps the NRA should lobby the government to subsidize gun ownership programs for low-income, high-crime neighborhoods to show they're serious about the self-defense argument.

Godfather. said:

it's better to be armed and not need than to be unarmed and need it.

It's even better to be unarmed and not need it.

whispering hands

CM189191 said:

Godfather. said:

CM189191 said:

josevolution said:

The more the merrier right GF more guns more guns more guns makes for a safer nation no ?

Meanwhile, yesterday in California:

Homicide Detectives Searching for Clues After Teen Shot to Death in South L.A.

14-YEAR-OLD BOY SHOT, INJURED IN EL SERENO

Two men shot, one dead north of Fresno’s Roeding Park

...yup, definitely need more people carrying guns

Fresno.....or FRestucky as it is also known, if went to Frestucky I'd want a CC to protect myself from the freaks that seem to gather there, have you ever been to Fresno or Sacramento or east LA ? those place's are thick with gangbangers.

So c&c is only for good for privileged white folk? There's a portion of our population who is disproportionately prosecuted for crimes, disproportionately falls below the poverty line. They don't have the means to purchase an expensive firearm, or pass a background check. Can't you see how this might exacerbate the problem?

Perhaps the NRA should lobby the government to subsidize gun ownership programs for low-income, high-crime neighborhoods to show they're serious about the self-defense argument.

Godfather. said:

it's better to be armed and not need than to be unarmed and need it.

It's even better to be unarmed and not need it.

The problem is being unarmed and not needing it, Is never going to happen. These are criminals we're talking about, look at Cali.. Half that Godforsaken state is wannabe ganstas! Even the old seniors moved outta Hemet cause of em! It's an epidemic problem. 1. Guns are too easily obtained with recourse. This has to stop.. Buuuut.. It's not going to. 2. You don't hear of NEAR as many shootings here in Colorado, ( not saying it doesn't happen, but it's not daily news either).

Why is that?? Cause we get to carry our guns outside with our CCPs. And the dumb fuckas with unregistered guns all know that 80% of this state has guns too! It's not as easy here. Nearly everyone is armed, and you don't know, ( cause it's concealed), until you mess with the wrong grandma! There us reason in this " madness", and it cuts down on the really stupid crimes that happen all over except the right to bear arms states. Honestly, I didn't know what to think when I first moved here, cause I've been raised around arms all my life, and we always were taught, NOT to carry them around, now we can under this special permit??? However.. The rigors to GETTING this permit are highly set bars of accomplishment requiring several classes and other frets plus federal background and criminal backgrounds. So.. If you knew that 80% of the population was carrying, would you randomly fuck with people??

CM189191

whispering hands said:

CM189191 said:

Godfather. said:

CM189191 said:

josevolution said:

The more the merrier right GF more guns more guns more guns makes for a safer nation no ?

Meanwhile, yesterday in California:

Homicide Detectives Searching for Clues After Teen Shot to Death in South L.A.

14-YEAR-OLD BOY SHOT, INJURED IN EL SERENO

Two men shot, one dead north of Fresno’s Roeding Park

...yup, definitely need more people carrying guns

Fresno.....or FRestucky as it is also known, if went to Frestucky I'd want a CC to protect myself from the freaks that seem to gather there, have you ever been to Fresno or Sacramento or east LA ? those place's are thick with gangbangers.

So c&c is only for good for privileged white folk? There's a portion of our population who is disproportionately prosecuted for crimes, disproportionately falls below the poverty line. They don't have the means to purchase an expensive firearm, or pass a background check. Can't you see how this might exacerbate the problem?

Perhaps the NRA should lobby the government to subsidize gun ownership programs for low-income, high-crime neighborhoods to show they're serious about the self-defense argument.

Godfather. said:

it's better to be armed and not need than to be unarmed and need it.

It's even better to be unarmed and not need it.

The problem is being unarmed and not needing it, Is never going to happen. These are criminals we're talking about, look at Cali.. Half that Godforsaken state is wannabe ganstas! Even the old seniors moved outta Hemet cause of em! It's an epidemic problem. 1. Guns are too easily obtained with recourse. This has to stop.. Buuuut.. It's not going to. 2. You don't hear of NEAR as many shootings here in Colorado, ( not saying it doesn't happen, but it's not daily news either).

Why is that?? Cause we get to carry our guns outside with our CCPs. And the dumb fuckas with unregistered guns all know that 80% of this state has guns too! It's not as easy here. Nearly everyone is armed, and you don't know, ( cause it's concealed), until you mess with the wrong grandma! There us reason in this " madness", and it cuts down on the really stupid crimes that happen all over except the right to bear arms states. Honestly, I didn't know what to think when I first moved here, cause I've been raised around arms all my life, and we always were taught, NOT to carry them around, now we can under this special permit??? However.. The rigors to GETTING this permit are highly set bars of accomplishment requiring several classes and other frets plus federal background and criminal backgrounds. So.. If you knew that 80% of the population was carrying, would you randomly fuck with people??

Colorado actually has a higher gun death rate than California, according to a recent Violence Policy Center (VPC) analysis of new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Center for Injury Prevention and Control.

The study goes on to say, states with the lowest overall gun death rates have lower rates of gun ownership and some of the strongest gun violence prevention laws in the nation.

Furthermore, America’s gun death rates (10.38 per 100,000) dwarf those of most other Western industrialized nations. The gun death rate in the United Kingdom in 2011 was 0.23 per 100,000 while in Australia it was 0.86 per 100,000.

States with “strong” gun violence prevention laws were defined as those that add significant state regulation that is absent from federal law, such as restricting access to particularly hazardous and deadly types of firearms (for example, assault weapons), setting minimum safety standards for firearms and/or requiring a permit to purchase a firearm, and restricting the open and concealed carrying of firearms in public.

In conclusion, “Gun violence is preventable, and states can pass effective laws that will dramatically reduce gun death and injury,” states VPC Executive Director Josh Sugarmann. “Our analysis also shows that states with weak gun violence prevention laws and easy access to guns pay a severe price with gun death rates far above the national average.”

Godfather.

CM189191 said:

Godfather. said:

CM189191 said:

josevolution said:

The more the merrier right GF more guns more guns more guns makes for a safer nation no ?

Meanwhile, yesterday in California:

Homicide Detectives Searching for Clues After Teen Shot to Death in South L.A.

14-YEAR-OLD BOY SHOT, INJURED IN EL SERENO

Two men shot, one dead north of Fresno’s Roeding Park

...yup, definitely need more people carrying guns

Fresno.....or FRestucky as it is also known, if went to Frestucky I'd want a CC to protect myself from the freaks that seem to gather there, have you ever been to Fresno or Sacramento or east LA ? those place's are thick with gangbangers.

So c&c is only for good for privileged white folk? There's a portion of our population who is disproportionately prosecuted for crimes, disproportionately falls below the poverty line. They don't have the means to purchase an expensive firearm, or pass a background check. Can't you see how this might exacerbate the problem?

Perhaps the NRA should lobby the government to subsidize gun ownership programs for low-income, high-crime neighborhoods to show they're serious about the self-defense argument.

Godfather. said:

it's better to be armed and not need than to be unarmed and need it.

It's even better to be unarmed and not need it.

you said;"So c&c is only for good for privileged white folk?".........really ? so your saying that " privileged white folk " don't run in gangs or do crimes ? and basically that minorities are the ones doing crimes and gangs ? and please tell me what privileged white folk means to you. )

Godfather.

josevolution

Godfather. said:

josevolution said:

I know just messing with GF , i'm an old hippie only peace pipes for me

and I respect your views and choices my friend...you old hippie you ! :-c

Godfather.

As i respect yours that's the way it should be >-

whispering hands

CM189191 said:

whispering hands said:

CM189191 said:

Godfather. said:

CM189191 said:

josevolution said:

The more the merrier right GF more guns more guns more guns makes for a safer nation no ?

Meanwhile, yesterday in California:

Homicide Detectives Searching for Clues After Teen Shot to Death in South L.A.

14-YEAR-OLD BOY SHOT, INJURED IN EL SERENO

Two men shot, one dead north of Fresno’s Roeding Park

...yup, definitely need more people carrying guns

Fresno.....or FRestucky as it is also known, if went to Frestucky I'd want a CC to protect myself from the freaks that seem to gather there, have you ever been to Fresno or Sacramento or east LA ? those place's are thick with gangbangers.

So c&c is only for good for privileged white folk? There's a portion of our population who is disproportionately prosecuted for crimes, disproportionately falls below the poverty line. They don't have the means to purchase an expensive firearm, or pass a background check. Can't you see how this might exacerbate the problem?

Perhaps the NRA should lobby the government to subsidize gun ownership programs for low-income, high-crime neighborhoods to show they're serious about the self-defense argument.

Godfather. said:

it's better to be armed and not need than to be unarmed and need it.

It's even better to be unarmed and not need it.

The problem is being unarmed and not needing it, Is never going to happen. These are criminals we're talking about, look at Cali.. Half that Godforsaken state is wannabe ganstas! Even the old seniors moved outta Hemet cause of em! It's an epidemic problem. 1. Guns are too easily obtained with recourse. This has to stop.. Buuuut.. It's not going to. 2. You don't hear of NEAR as many shootings here in Colorado, ( not saying it doesn't happen, but it's not daily news either).

Why is that?? Cause we get to carry our guns outside with our CCPs. And the dumb fuckas with unregistered guns all know that 80% of this state has guns too! It's not as easy here. Nearly everyone is armed, and you don't know, ( cause it's concealed), until you mess with the wrong grandma! There us reason in this " madness", and it cuts down on the really stupid crimes that happen all over except the right to bear arms states. Honestly, I didn't know what to think when I first moved here, cause I've been raised around arms all my life, and we always were taught, NOT to carry them around, now we can under this special permit??? However.. The rigors to GETTING this permit are highly set bars of accomplishment requiring several classes and other frets plus federal background and criminal backgrounds. So.. If you knew that 80% of the population was carrying, would you randomly fuck with people??

Colorado actually has a higher gun death rate than California, according to a recent Violence Policy Center (VPC) analysis of new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Center for Injury Prevention and Control.

The study goes on to say, states with the lowest overall gun death rates have lower rates of gun ownership and some of the strongest gun violence prevention laws in the nation.

Furthermore, America’s gun death rates (10.38 per 100,000) dwarf those of most other Western industrialized nations. The gun death rate in the United Kingdom in 2011 was 0.23 per 100,000 while in Australia it was 0.86 per 100,000.

States with “strong” gun violence prevention laws were defined as those that add significant state regulation that is absent from federal law, such as restricting access to particularly hazardous and deadly types of firearms (for example, assault weapons), setting minimum safety standards for firearms and/or requiring a permit to purchase a firearm, and restricting the open and concealed carrying of firearms in public.

In conclusion, “Gun violence is preventable, and states can pass effective laws that will dramatically reduce gun death and injury,” states VPC Executive Director Josh Sugarmann. “Our analysis also shows that states with weak gun violence prevention laws and easy access to guns pay a severe price with gun death rates far above the national average.”

Still I'd much rather have a gun too knowing that there are those out there with them., that intend me or my family harm for gain of resource or pleasure.