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It's kinda like the choice issue for me.Live and let live.If it feels comfy for one family (woman)doing it how they think will best suite their personal needs...then more power to them.If you can have a choice of having your baby's birthday not fall on 9/11 or Christmas for example I totally get that.
Here in Canada I think you need a medical reason to have a c-section. At least that is what our impression of the process was.
My sister had a c-section for her first child and a natural birth for her second. Her first labour was particularly rough lasting over 24 hours before the baby was showing signs of stress and the decision was made to have the c-section.
C-sections are more expensive, result in longer hospital stays and longer recovery time. Scientists are also starting to find a lot of evidence of the benefits of vaginal birth. Such as beneficial bacteria from the vagina to the baby during birth, believed to help in healthy bacteria in babies guts (prevention of gastrointestinal problems later in life), reduced incidence of celiac disease and allergies in babies.
I guess in my mind people who schedule c-sections for non medical reasons are idiots. It makes no sense.
I don't know...just opens the door to other questions.
My sister had a C-section with her first child by necessity, and chose to do the same with her second. I've read where there are benefits as well as risks to both options, so as rr said, to me it's about choice and what seems best for the woman in that position.
Frankly, the thought of giving birth no matter the means - let alone carrying another life within my body (it's enough to handle my own!) - scares the hell out of me.
"Hemorrhage: There's some evidence that you're less likely to hemorrhage if you plan a c-section than if you plan a vaginal birth. (Remember that some women who plan to have a vaginal birth end up with an unplanned c-section, which tends to be associated with more blood loss than a planned c-section.)
On the other hand, when it comes to the risk of hemorrhage leading to hysterectomy, what little evidence there is shows no difference between first-time moms planning a c-section versus those planning a vaginal delivery. And as mentioned earlier, there is good evidence that having multiple c-sections increases your risk of life-threatening hemorrhage and hysterectomy.
Length of hospital stay after delivery: Women who deliver vaginally go home sooner after birth than women who have a c-section, regardless of whether it's a planned c-section or one following labor. What's more, women who have a c-section are more than twice as likely to be readmitted to the hospital during the postpartum period as women who have a vaginal delivery.
Breathing problems: Babies born by planned c-section are more likely to end up in the neonatal intensive care unit (NICU) with breathing problems than are babies who are born vaginally, although this number is still very small. In the womb, a baby's lungs are filled with fluid. The labor process signals the baby's lungs to stop producing fluid, and the lungs then either reabsorb or remove the fluid – but this natural process doesn't occur as efficiently without labor.
Babies delivered by c-section before 39 weeks are particularly prone to this problem. They're also more likely to have problems adapting in other ways, too, such as regulating their blood sugar and body temperature. For these reasons, experts agree that no c-sections should be scheduled before 39 weeks unless there is a medical reason to deliver earlier."
"Most healthcare providers say cesarean deliveries should be performed only when medically necessary.
The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists issued a statement in 2013 advising women to plan for a vaginal delivery whenever possible. Unless the health of the mother or baby is in danger, the risks associated with a c-section usually outweigh any short-term benefits, the statement said, particularly for women who may want to have more children in the future. It also cautioned that concern about pain management is never a sufficient reason for a c-section.
In addition, the International Federation of Gynecology and Obstetrics guidelines state that because there's no hard evidence of benefit to the patient, performing a c-section for nonmedical reasons is not ethically justified. Finally, the American College of Nurse-Midwives, Lamaze International, and the International Cesarean Awareness Network argue that birth is a natural physiological process that should be allowed to unfold naturally unless there's a medical reason for intervention."
http://www.babycenter.com/0_c-section-by-choice_1498696.bc
As an aside and apologies for a semi-derail, but if this is frowned upon, how are other procedures considered elective greeted with open arms - for those who choose them as well as those who perform them?
As to your second, I am curious as to what elective procedures you are thinking of? Do those elective procedures have two options, one letting nature take it's course, the second being surgical intervention? I can't think of any right now.....but I blame that on lack of sleep do to the new baby.
My first thought went to how accepted cosmetic surgery is, even things like the lap-band, botox (when not used for migraines). Or preventive procedures vs more extreme measures if the prophylactic route isn't taken.
Just kind of ties into the choice factor, where some are seen as OK and others not; I'm not sure where the line (if any) is drawn.
And I won't even try to get into the ethics around cosmetic surgery; maybe later, if I'm feeling up to it
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
Leeze, I'll agree that there's much to be said for anticipation (cue Carly Simon
dignin, me too. It's good stuff.
that sounded like a Jack Handy
And of course a birth is messy and painful and all that. And all your points above are important. But to me, it still holds some kind of magic in it. It is nothing that a machine can do for you. I don't know ...
As for birthdays, in our family the birthday was always even more important than christmas or other festivities. Getting together as a family is always nice, no matter what the occasion, but the birthday is always your individual special day. Where I come from, we also say that it is bad luck if somebody celebrates beforehand.
I have also noticed that people in America are not set on the celebration of the birthday on the actual birthday. It is always a little irritating to me, but maybe it has to do with sheer logistics of bringing people into one spot? Everybody does it their way, and this is a good thing.
As far as "scheduling a birthday", we dont care. We just want safety and higher odds. I probably wouldnt schedule for the 13th of any month because I have kind of a phobia/aversion to the number.
In short, most c-sections are scheduled for the convenience of the doctor/hospital. They happen most frequently leading up to 5pm & midnight so the doctor can get home on time. Or so they can schedule as many childbirths in a given day.
Or for liability purposes - if anything goes wrong, they immediately turn to c-section. If there's a lawsuit, the doctor can then argue "we did everything we could".
My fiancee is a pediatric therapist and is learning how natural birth is critical to developing certain reflexes causing sensory processing disorders.