Another one annoys me to hell and back is the raw diet. It boldly flies in the face of basic science, nutrition, and history with the arrogant, flippant air of a creationist or climate change denier.
Man, that shit really bugs you, rgambs! Flying in the face of etc. I get but the metaphor leaves me scratching my head. Raw foodists as creationists or climate change deniers? Huh?
As a fad diet, I agree, it's pretty much that- a fad diet. But used as a temporary detoxification or cleansing diet, it has great health improving potential. It saved my ass at least once, I will definitely tell you that right now- seriously. Also, more people eating local raw fruits, nuts, seeds and vegetables at least some of the time, is better for your landbase... and that is some basic science for you right there.
I'd pretty much think both self-promotion/putting on airs about ones diet AND disparaging or criticizing what other people chose to eat is kind of pointless. Trading ideas and doing what works for yourself makes more sense to me.
Sorry man, don't mean to bum your rant. I have plenty of those myself.
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Another one annoys me to hell and back is the raw diet. It boldly flies in the face of basic science, nutrition, and history with the arrogant, flippant air of a creationist or climate change denier.
Man, that shit really bugs you, rgambs! Flying in the face of etc. I get but the metaphor leaves me scratching my head. Raw foodists as creationists or climate change deniers? Huh?
As a fad diet, I agree, it's pretty much that- a fad diet. But used as a temporary detoxification or cleansing diet, it has great health improving potential. It saved my ass at least once, I will definitely tell you that right now- seriously. Also, more people eating local raw fruits, nuts, seeds and vegetables at least some of the time, is better for your landbase... and that is some basic science for you right there.
I'd pretty much think both self-promotion/putting on airs about ones diet AND disparaging or criticizing what other people chose to eat is kind of pointless. Trading ideas and doing what works for yourself makes more sense to me.
Sorry man, don't mean to bum your rant. I have plenty of those myself.
As part of a larger diet strategy it makes total sense. I'm sour on it in terms of using it like paleo, and devoting your entire diet to it. The premise is that when you cook foods you lose the nutrients, and while there are some cases where nutrients are lost, in the majority of cases heat breaks food down into more digestible matter, from which more nutrients are extracted. Ungulates and primates like gorillas have to consume massive amounts of vegetation, getting much less bang for the buck. Not all foods need cooked, not all foods even make sense to be cooked, but going raw as a lifestyle just isn't based on sound science.
I love that there is some good solid debate going here. I have always been Leary of fad functions.. Because humans are just so similar to sheep.. One strays away, next thing you know, the entire flock is gone.. It is sooo true too.. In both species, all it takes is one motivator.. So when I was diagnosed with Diabetes, and had to start seeing a nutritionist.. I learned a lot about how food is used to fuel the body. And just like with all things in life, it is a forever changing and open science. ( meaning we are always discovering or learning something new in that field). We discussed that Paleo diet as her prime example of rational being taken to the extreme of pure idiocy. ( her words not mine). She explained that to a degree, or margined in your diet, the the principles if the diet were very well founded, but then there are these idiots trying to LIVE on those bases. She explained that it is an excellent feeler experiment for gluten intolerances as well as for lactose intolerances, and as a body reset tool in general, but that our bodies were never designed to sustain life on that diet alone. She also explained that proportioning and abstract value play HUGE roles in how our bodies work with foods.. I'm still learning all this, but I find it interesting, disgusting, and sad all at the same time, that humans are willing to destroy themselves and call it healthy, because it provided a quick and easy result. A simple quick solution is not always the answer. Maintaining health is a daily struggle, it requires discipline, action, restraint, and common sense.. It also requires intelligence.. You HAVE to be able to look into things with an honest and open approach, and weigh factors. It is regimen, exercise, proportioning, balance, and integrity to plan. Not always easy to stick with, but ( and I love this hence borrowing it), if you just eat right, and get out and do one vigorous activity for 30 minutes every day, you don't need to diet. I LOVE that! Anyhow. I love reading everyone's insights here. Carry on..
People almost look at 'diets' as the cure for what ails them.
What ails most of them is- as RG pointed out- laziness and lack of discipline. Get off the couch and commit to daily exercise instead of looking for a pill from the health store, fad diet, or in some cases... surgery to trim yourself up. Get blood flowing through those arteries and force those muscles to adapt (grow) to more rigorous demands than clicking the remote control or iPod.
Put a bag of chips in front of me and they are in trouble. Red wine at night is nice. To counter my 'poisons'... I work out every day (with the exception of the odd day where I don't). Do I love working out? No. Do I have to work out? Yes. It's necessary. Period.
We weren't designed to do nothing. We were designed to walk long distances (aerobic systems) and kill woolly mammoths (anaerobic systems). Our instincts drive us to want to eat everything and a lot of it because when we were cave people... food wasn't sitting in the fridge waiting for us (so when we came across it... we chowed down on it).
The 'fix' is coming to terms with these truths- not metabolism booster supplements and well-marketed diets.
I will say that I believe science has marginalized the effect of pesticides, and a whole host of other chemicals, upon humans. The bio-accumulation of pesticides has contributed to the rise of diseases and disorders over the course of the past 100 years. And it seems that science hasn't fully explored the relationship between human health and pesticides or GMO's. I think that is why so many people try a variety of diets (fad or whatever you want to call it) trying to isolate the underlying food that is creating or contributing to a wide verity of conditions. I am not totally grain free but I know that I feel much better when I restrict the amount of grains I consume which goes against current USDA nutritional guidelines.
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I will say that I believe science has marginalized the effect of pesticides, and a whole host of other chemicals, upon humans. The bio-accumulation of pesticides has contributed to the rise of diseases and disorders over the course of the past 100 years. And it seems that science hasn't fully explored the relationship between human health and pesticides or GMO's. I think that is why so many people try a variety of diets (fad or whatever you want to call it) trying to isolate the underlying food that is creating or contributing to a wide verity of conditions. I am not totally grain free but I know that I feel much better when I restrict the amount of grains I consume which goes against current USDA nutritional guidelines.
That is a very good point! Don't even get me started on GMOs or meat cloning! Lol but yeah no one takes that there are chemicals abounding in foods now, that we created with purpose, but never took into account the end game they played. Very good point indeed.
I love your analogy there TBU! That's very true.. It's kind of like having a wolf as a pet, feeding it dog food, and walking it around the block and calling it good. Then you sit and scratch hour head as to why it shreds your carpets, snaps at you, and shuts on your feet. ( and yes they do do that when they are distressed). It's not a dog! It was never designed or bred or created to live in closed quarters! In a box! They were designed to hunt, did you know a wolf can cover 22 miles if territory a day, on a hunt?? We are very much the same, in that we were designed to be active.. Moving, working.. Personally if I could, and I'm working on this, I'd go live off grid. Society has gotten ultra ridiculous, and I almost can't stand to be in the midst. It is mind boggling! But back on point.. TBU has an excellent point. We seem to always neglect the second most important factor; exercise.
And now available, one of the very faddest things around - Soylent. I had not heard of this until this morning, having apparently missed extensive media hype this summer. This is marketed not as a food supplement, but as a nutritionally complete meal replacement - forever, not just for the short term. Two litres of liquid a day, with the goal of removing all that inefficient time you spend shopping, preparing and, yes, eating your food. I've attached a link to an article by someone who spent a month eating only Soylent (mostly), but a quick google search will take you to their website. It will blow your mind that they think is is a good thing. Unless they are secretly joking, and marveling that people will actually pay for this stuff.
I'm going to start a diet, just fucking make one up.. Give it some silly name, and see how it catches on. Why not? I could get rich off all the gullible people in the world!! Hey, it worked for Atkins, this crazy Paleo thing, and the always famous Ten Day Juice diet .
Ok I know, I'm kinda being a bitch.. But here's the real secret, folks... Each and everyone one of our bodies works differently with or against the foods we consume! So if you have a low tolerance for breaking down Lactose, cut it out.. Unsung in their Paleo thread mentioned that milk really isn't necessary for adults. To a minor degree this person is right. But to be comets honest, it was never meant for us to drink at all! None the less, in our infinitely ' ignorant wisdom' humans have found a million ways to make use of it. Which in turn is actually not bad, is less time consuming, and the beneficial result is dead heat similar; so we drink milk, eat yogurt, use butter, etc.. But if you can't break down lactose, then you really should find your bacterial benefit, calcium, and vitamin intake by more suitable means. Grains.. Completely fucking necessary! Sorry to break it to you.. There are millions of grains out there without the crappy gluten in them. But grains are natural proteins, sugars and fatstgat our muscles, tendons and digestive systems require to keep things together! Anytime a diet tells you to exclude some entire group of foods from your diet??? Go talk to a specialist!! And not a kook! I mean board certified, been to school, understands how the human body works.. Someone that actually KNOWS what they're talking about. It scares me to think that do many people jump on these fad diets because so and so did it, and it worked for them.. It may have, in the short run.. But a Quarter Horse WILL OUT RUN a Thorobred for a quarter mile. Big deal. In the end the Thorobred blows by in the mile. The point is, you want it to work in a sustainable manner; that promotes life long health. Not instant result. If there's an instant result, something is not right. Sure you lose weight, feel good, but even Anorexia feels good in the beginning! I'm not saying don't diet.. I'm saying make sure the diet you plan to mold your life to, is one that is monitored directly by an educated individual, not some article your friend's cousin's ex-roomate's dog's last owner told you about that worked for them! Each person is different. Just this Paleo shit is disturbing! If you're gonna truly do it, look into that periodic history! Those fuckers didn't live very long! As for processed foods, gross! NO ONE needs that crap! I try yo avoid that at all costs! Anyhow.. Rant over.. Just take care of your body.. Quit ravaging its insides for the result of better looking outsides. Ok truly done ranting.. I'll be looking forward to my new asshole in the morning! ;-)
awesome post ! and if I might share this......"Psyllium Husk" keeps the pipes clean if ya know what I mean and is great for heart health, helps to lower clesteral and as I said it cleans your digestive track out, Ive been using it for about 2 years to two and a half and cut about 80% of the red meats out of my "grazing habbits" ) switching it for turcky and chicken and vegitable patties rather than hamburger....I said 80%.. from time to time a big fat greasy burger is great but not too often and I have had to elimenate Mexican food for the most part that is the best bad food you (I) can eat .............SOOOOOOOO for a small fee I will be selling the "Godfather Diet hand Book" a road mape to cleaner assholes and better living that comes with full page pictures of your favorite celeberties(full frontal nudity) before and after the "Godfathert Diet Hand Book" diet and this book is guarenteed to be read with one hand, a great gift idea and is the perfect size to place on the back of the toilet or on a nightstand and it fits comfortably in your back pocket to take anywhere you need to go so don't delay, just call the number at the bottom of your screen 1-900-0u812 and be sure to ask about the pocket book stand made to fit the "Godfather Diet Hand Book" when you call.
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As a fad diet, I agree, it's pretty much that- a fad diet. But used as a temporary detoxification or cleansing diet, it has great health improving potential. It saved my ass at least once, I will definitely tell you that right now- seriously. Also, more people eating local raw fruits, nuts, seeds and vegetables at least some of the time, is better for your landbase... and that is some basic science for you right there.
I'd pretty much think both self-promotion/putting on airs about ones diet AND disparaging or criticizing what other people chose to eat is kind of pointless. Trading ideas and doing what works for yourself makes more sense to me.
Sorry man, don't mean to bum your rant. I have plenty of those myself.
What ails most of them is- as RG pointed out- laziness and lack of discipline. Get off the couch and commit to daily exercise instead of looking for a pill from the health store, fad diet, or in some cases... surgery to trim yourself up. Get blood flowing through those arteries and force those muscles to adapt (grow) to more rigorous demands than clicking the remote control or iPod.
Put a bag of chips in front of me and they are in trouble. Red wine at night is nice. To counter my 'poisons'... I work out every day (with the exception of the odd day where I don't). Do I love working out? No. Do I have to work out? Yes. It's necessary. Period.
We weren't designed to do nothing. We were designed to walk long distances (aerobic systems) and kill woolly mammoths (anaerobic systems). Our instincts drive us to want to eat everything and a lot of it because when we were cave people... food wasn't sitting in the fridge waiting for us (so when we came across it... we chowed down on it).
The 'fix' is coming to terms with these truths- not metabolism booster supplements and well-marketed diets.
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/17/5893221/soylent-survivor-one-month-living-on-lab-made-liquid-nourishment
I love food too much to go that route.
Also, every time I read the word soylent, I imagine Archie Bunker saying "silent".
Godfather.