The Day Israel Attacked America

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,066
    badbrains said:

    the bottom line, as pathetic as it sounds, is that americans are a bunch of sheep. too lazy to read up and research things on their own. too self centered to worry about those half a world away. this video could be shown one night in place of "dancing with the stars" and people would change the channel rather than attempt to learn something.

    Rod, imagine if they showed that video in school. Or forced everyone to watch it. What would be the Americans attitude towards Israel be?
    ambivalence, because their parents tell the kids that israel is our friend and we have to help our friend at all costs.

    plus, public schools don't have the balls to deviate from curriculum too much these days. some states want to teach fucking creationism in science class...
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  • This might be my pessimism speaking, but what does greater awareness amount to?

    The current structures demand that the people who hold high places serve as the catalysts for change. To my way of thinking, the age of the selfless leaders are gone and in its place... are individuals who lie, cheat, and manipulate to gain power- only to serve themselves and those that helped them gain their position of privilege.

    I guess I'm saying those in power sneer at the voice of reason unless it is one they wish to hear.

    One can say you have your vote and that makes a difference... but in reality... more often than not... that vote is one that demands you choose between Hitler and Satan.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385
    There you go again with a holocaust reference. Try Pol Pot and Satan. Or Stalin and satan. Change it up a bit.
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  • mickeyrat said:

    There you go again with a holocaust reference. Try Pol Pot and Satan. Or Stalin and satan. Change it up a bit.

    I wasn't thinking on that one.

    How about Charles Manson and Satan (no offence to hippies or White Album fans)?
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385

    mickeyrat said:

    There you go again with a holocaust reference. Try Pol Pot and Satan. Or Stalin and satan. Change it up a bit.

    I wasn't thinking on that one.

    How about Charles Manson and Satan (no offence to hippies or White Album fans)?
    Scale too small. Difference in serial killong and mass murder.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    The US seems to be under the delusion that thy enemy of thy enemy is thy friend and that clearly is not the case. It appears to me that the greatest threat to any US intervention in the middle east has been and always will be the israeli govt. Unfortunately for Washington the israeli govt know exsctly how to play them and until the US govt grow some balls the situation will never change.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    A politician cares only about one thing....re-election.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    JC29856 said:

    A politician cares only about one thing....re-election.

    That being the case I think we need to figure out a way to get rid of them alll.. cause clearly democracy in its present form isnt working... if it ever did.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,297

    JC29856 said:

    A politician cares only about one thing....re-election.

    That being the case I think we need to figure out a way to get rid of them alll.. cause clearly democracy in its present form isnt working... if it ever did.
    Beats feudalism.

    I'm not sure any form of government works well on a macro scale for an extended period of time. Based on the other options on the table, I'll stick with it.
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  • mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    There you go again with a holocaust reference. Try Pol Pot and Satan. Or Stalin and satan. Change it up a bit.

    I wasn't thinking on that one.

    How about Charles Manson and Satan (no offence to hippies or White Album fans)?
    Scale too small. Difference in serial killong and mass murder.
    Both really greasy choices though.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,066
    surprised there wasn't more of a response to this....

    then i remembered that those most likely to comment can't...
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    The playbook advises to never address it, ignore it, pretend it didn't happen, eventually it will go away.
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,154
    So you're surprised that you weren't able to incite more people into a pointless argument over something that happened over 40 years ago that has no bearing on current events? Perhaps some of us just have better things to do.
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  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    yosi said:

    So you're surprised that you weren't able to incite more people into a pointless argument over something that happened over 40 years ago that has no bearing on current events? Perhaps some of us just have better things to do.

    No bearing on current events? It shows that even 40 year ago, Israel could/did get away with murder, like in 2014, like now.

    It shows, that (for whatever reason) Israel is above all, even us (the USA)
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,066
    yosi said:

    So you're surprised that you weren't able to incite more people into a pointless argument over something that happened over 40 years ago that has no bearing on current events? Perhaps some of us just have better things to do.

    it isn't a pointless argument. it just shows that israel will fuck over it's allies, kill OUR soldiers/sailors, and hold OUR president hostage if it helps their position. americans should never, ever forget that. especially when they blindly defend israel and it's policies. what is to stop them from doing it again to get US sucked into THEIR conflicts??

    these are things we were never taught in school, so i share it here.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,066
    and yes yosi, i am pissed off about this. 40 years ago for you, brand new information about it for me. i guarantee that this is the first time most of us have heard about it.

    this is exactly how extremist ideas get passed down from generation to generation. this is how israel and the united states are creating more terrorists. every person that is murdered like this, and like the war in gaza, someone is left to mourn them. those men have children or other relatives that might make it their life's mission to go on to avenge those murders. it might not be the next generation. maybe a grandson or great-grandson hears about how their grandfather was murdered and then they might be the ones.

    if israel would do it 40 years ago, why wouldn't they do it today? is it because they need the US and our billions of dollars in military aid?? regardless, they are capable of doing it again today, with our own weapons we give them, if they choose to do so.

    please don't try to minimize this and brush it under the rug, like it has been for the last 40 years.
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  • I think if one was to say that this event from over 40 years ago has no real bearing on today's current events... then one would have to acknowledge that this is so because it was managed then to do as such.

    I don't think an expiration date should be set on treachery.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385

    I think if one was to say that this event from over 40 years ago has no real bearing on today's current events... then one would have to acknowledge that this is so because it was managed then to do as such.

    I don't think an expiration date should be set on treachery.

    Exactly. There is no expiration date on a heinous policy implemented during WWII, nor should there be for any fucked up act.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,297
    The US seems to get along OK with Germany and Japan nowadays.
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  • I don't think anybody's saying the US shouldn't get along with Israel today. I think people are saying look how shitty this event was and look how shitty the players in this event were.
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