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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    ldent42 said:

    lolobugg said:

    yellowwho said:

    I cooked a pop-tart the other morning

    :))

    How long would one would last, if you just left it on the kitchen counter ?

    I am guessing a long time... time for a science experiment

    you should put it up against the McDonald's fries and see which one would last the longest.
    We actually did that with some dinner rolls once. I don't remember where they came from, I think it was one of those thanksgiving-in-a-box deals. We didn't touch them cuz they were so gross looking. We finally threw them out six months later, still looking/feeling/smelling exactly the same as the day we brought them home.
    that's one of the reasons I went Paleo.
    preservatives in foods are fucking scary.

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  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,442


    I'm an unrepentant foodie, no doubt. Last night's dinner at our house - squash risotto with chanterelles. The night before - chicken dijon with scalloped potatoes, made 100% by my 15 year old with no adult help. The night before that - a spicy chili with lots of veggies and beans and the leftover smoked brisket, made in our own Bradley smoker a few weeks ago and put in the freezer for just such an occasion. The night before that we went out to eat, because I love eating out, too.

    That sounds awesome! Once we have moved, we plan on making a smoker too. I am dying to try and make some sausage myself, and smoked ham and fish and and and. And ever since Arby's commercials have awoken my interest in briskets, I wanna try that too! Yummmmm

    Those little cheesecakes look delish as well.

    Drive safe, whispering hands!

  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    yea they are. My mom doesn't understand why I insist on buying "the expensive bread that turns green in four days" instead of the Arnolds supermarket bread aisle stuff. I have kicked a LOT of the super duper processed shit out of my life, but I am not super hard lined about it.

    I DO require my mac and cheese to come from a box. I don't care if it kills me. :)

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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    ldent42 said:

    yea they are. My mom doesn't understand why I insist on buying "the expensive bread that turns green in four days" instead of the Arnolds supermarket bread aisle stuff. I have kicked a LOT of the super duper processed shit out of my life, but I am not super hard lined about it.

    I DO require my mac and cheese to come from a box. I don't care if it kills me. :)

    yeah, I have started to cheat a little.
    somethings are really hard to cut out 100%.
    sodas are completely gone though.
    I was a huge fan of coke zero.
    I probably won't need to be embalmed when I die as many of those as I used to drink.

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  • yellowwho
    yellowwho Posts: 1,661
    ldent42 said:

    yea they are. My mom doesn't understand why I insist on buying "the expensive bread that turns green in four days" instead of the Arnolds supermarket bread aisle stuff. I have kicked a LOT of the super duper processed shit out of my life, but I am not super hard lined about it.

    I DO require my mac and cheese to come from a box. I don't care if it kills me. :)

    It's funny how people's views and knowledge are so ass backwards in thanks to the few mega food corporations that pretty much control most of the mainstream food information, paying absolutely no mind to to our health benefits what so ever. We might as well be eating poison with all this processed stuff, it's really not that much different, the effects just take a little longer to kick in.

    But, I agree, it's pretty hard to pass up a good box of shells n cheese !
  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,442
    Sometimes I feel lucky that I grew up in East Germany, because we didn't have all that sugary crap stuff and our convenience food and sweets were so bad that most people made their own food. My gramps used to make ketchup, I remember. I am a bread snob and do not have a strong craving for sugar. So I am basically screwed breadwise in America :P
    The only bread without sugar that I could find here was crackling bread or European style baguette. I like those from time to time, but I have started baking my own rye sourdough with a crust that is heavenly and a flavour that brings you into bread nirvana. I do love me some nice fat ice cream every now and then though :D And bacon! Oh, how I love thee!
  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    edited November 2014
    Leeze I'm lucky cuz where I live is not far from the commercial bakeries that still make real bread for distribution around the city. So there's a local supermarket smart enough to sell their stuff.
    Sometimes I get bread from the Irish butcher/grocery. I can't eat regular white bread anymore.
    This is the new one I decided to try out. I really like it. image
    Also, cold cuts. I missed American cheese so much while I was in Europe. The biggest tease in the world for me, bad ass bread, eggs full of flavor, and no good old land o' lakes in sight.I'm sure cold cuts are chock full of preservatives by nature, but I'm not giving them up. And I do eat them a lot more frequently than the shells & liquid gold. :-D
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  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,442
    Good for you, Ident! Before I moved here, I checked for German bakeries in the area online. There was one that was very close, but that one was closed. We tried another one, but they made their bread in a bread machine and it lacked crust and was too expensive. So now I get my dark, hearty, crusty German style bread way cheaper and know what is inside. But sometimes I miss the convenience of just getting it from the store.
    I loved cold cuts too, back in Germany. Now a lot of the stuff from the supermarket is suspicious to me. Freaking everything contains high fructose corn syrup or tons of sugar. And the good stuff it too expensive to have it regularly. I make veggie spreads and love herbed butter and herbed yogurt and use them as a substitute. Not perfect, but with the right spices it's okay. Every now and then we pick up a smoked ham at the Polish market or my mom sends canned liverwurst. I cannot wait to start with Wurstproduction at the new house :D A good side effect of me being so suspicious of American food is that I know exactly what is in my food because I make a lot of it myself. The downside is, you have to devote time to live like that too.
  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    Damn I didn't know liverwurst was German!I would've been all over that when I was in Berlin!
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  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,442
    Yupyup :) But I think in the NYC area, you are well sorted probably.
  • Wow, the last few posts make me really grateful that I live where I do. I may live in the middle of nowhere but we have at least 4 local organic bakeries that cover all the really good breads including a great german rye and gluten free/low gluten - for those that actually need it. We also have two local butcher shops that source meat locally, cut it in-house and make all there own sausages etc., I'm very spoiled that way and a total snob when I go elsewhere. But really once you can get thick sliced in-house smoked bacon how the hell are you supposed to buy that crap in the store.
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  • RKCNDY
    RKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    Where I live, people are very into organics and natural foods, so it's pretty easy to find stuff without chemicals and fake stuff. Even the natural bread section at the market is bigger than the processed bread section.

    Why do people insist that HFCs are the same as sugar?
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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    yeah. I am lucky too to live where I am educated on the benefits of grass-fed and organic food.

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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Stay away from aspartame
  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    badbrains said:

    Stay away from aspartame

    yeah. I prob mummified myself drinking all that shit

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    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

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  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,442

    Wow, the last few posts make me really grateful that I live where I do. I may live in the middle of nowhere but we have at least 4 local organic bakeries that cover all the really good breads including a great german rye and gluten free/low gluten - for those that actually need it. We also have two local butcher shops that source meat locally, cut it in-house and make all there own sausages etc., I'm very spoiled that way and a total snob when I go elsewhere. But really once you can get thick sliced in-house smoked bacon how the hell are you supposed to buy that crap in the store.

    I got used to it and know where or how to get my stuff. I just try to avoid processed food as much as I can. My stomach is giving me a reaction right away when it doesn't like something, and I am much better off with the way I eat. And I feel healthier too :)
    We do have one thing here that I would truly, truly miss if I ever moved somewhere else. And that is an Amish market. They have amazing meats and sausages and butter and eggs for not too much money. We only buy our meat there. I think otherwise I would have become a vegetarian. I'm a paranoid, snobby, but also creative and handy foodie :-B :))
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    badbrains said:

    Stay away from aspartame

    And LoLo =))
  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    badbrains said:

    badbrains said:

    Stay away from aspartame

    And LoLo =))
    hey... my family is gonna save on embalming.... =))

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    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

    2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

    2010- Bristow, VA

    2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL

    2012- Atlanta, GA

    2013- Charlotte, NC

    2014- Cincinnati, OH

    2015- New York, NY

    2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA

    2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY

    2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2

    2020- Nashville, TN 

    2022- Smashville 

    2023- Austin, TX x2

    2024- Baltimore

  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    lolobugg said:

    badbrains said:

    badbrains said:

    Stay away from aspartame

    And LoLo =))
    hey... my family is gonna save on embalming.... =))
    Embalming you, shit, I heard they're just gonna leave u to rot where u die! Back to the earth u go logan! :))
  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    edited November 2014
    That's the one thing I'm unfortunately ignorant on, non supermarket meat. Even the organic stuff I won't buy cuz it looks awful. I'm not a big meat lover though
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