Canadian Soldier shot on Parliament Hill

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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    BLACK35 said:

    dignin said:

    BLACK35 said:

    I got some friends there right now at a convention, scary shit. They are all safe lockdowned in a hotel

    Yeah, I have some friends on parliament hill too. They are all safe.
    Good to hear!
    Thanks, glad your friends are safe too.

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited October 2014
    Three shooting incidents now - war memorial, in parliament, and in a nearby shopping centre. Not sure if anyone was actually shot in the mall. Just says there was a shooting incident there. Obviously more than one shooter, and sounds like only one of them is caught/dead.
    Way too much speculation on it being some kind of Islamic-inspired terrorist attack. I'd say the reason for this is that Canadian war planes and troops just left Canada yesterday for the Middle East to begin their active military involvement against ISIS (which I am somewhat against btw). WAY too early to assume that that is anything other than a coincidence though.
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  • Dirtie_Frank
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    I heard today the female from Afghanistan the won the Nobel Peace Prize was supposed to become a Canadian Citizen today.
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  • evsgjamm
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    PJ_Soul, come on. It's not WAY too early to assume this is a direct relationship to all of this bullshit going on in the world today. As if it's completely isolated. No way. Our CF18's take off yesterday, the following day an armed forces member is murdered outside Parliament Hill, 48 hours after that RCMP officer was killed by being hit by a radical. To be able to put two and two together is necessary.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited October 2014
    evsgjamm said:

    PJ_Soul, come on. It's not WAY too early to assume this is a direct relationship to all of this bullshit going on in the world today. As if it's completely isolated. No way. Our CF18's take off yesterday, the following day an armed forces member is murdered outside Parliament Hill, 48 hours after that RCMP officer was killed by being hit by a radical. To be able to put two and two together is necessary.

    It actually IS way too early, because we have NO idea who the shooters are! For all we know they have some other gripe with the government, or are just mental cases. Yeah, maybe it's related to Canada's role in the fight against ISIS or something, and that seems the most likely scenario, but before we know who the shooters are, it makes no sense to to assume anything, and I am VERY against the media in particular making such assumptions before they have any facts whatsoever. I'm not trying to be PC here (I definitely do not have a reputation for that, haha). I'm just using logic and restraint. I am pretty sure that the police do not go by the "put two and two together guys!" theory that you've outlined to solve cases, lol!!!
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    evsgjamm said:

    PJ_Soul, come on. It's not WAY too early to assume this is a direct relationship to all of this bullshit going on in the world today. As if it's completely isolated. No way. Our CF18's take off yesterday, the following day an armed forces member is murdered outside Parliament Hill, 48 hours after that RCMP officer was killed by being hit by a radical. To be able to put two and two together is necessary.

    You have absolutely no idea. It is too soon.
  • evsgjamm
    evsgjamm Posts: 2,108
    I had a choice to use restraint or to be presumptuous and I chose the latter in this story. That's the side I'll remain on during this event. I'm going with "the most likely scenario" as you put it. Can't be any other way in my opinion. Not this time. No way.
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  • Staceb10
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    Can't be Islamists.. that violence is just a myth according to the other thread here.


    RIP to the soldier and my condolences to those affected by today's attack. Just horrible.
  • unsung
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    You guys should ban the gunz.
  • fife
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    unsung said:

    You guys should ban the gunz.

    I was wondering how long it was going to take you to say that. I would take my country guns laws over your country laws any day of the week.

    anyway, this is a really a sad story and i hope the families can move past this.

  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,391
    Staceb10 said:

    Can't be Islamists.. that violence is just a myth according to the other thread here.


    RIP to the soldier and my condolences to those affected by today's attack. Just horrible.

    Could be Islamists. Or the boogeyman. Or a radicalized Buddhist (they exist). But to make a suggestion so pre-emptively without any semblance of evidence (even with historical grounds) seems outrageous, and is letting your preconceived notions drive your decision-making process (aka, societal indoctrination).
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  • brianlux
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    Don't you love how the press is already calling the shooter a "terrorist"- just like that, in quotes. It's like they're saying, Well we wouldn't want to come to any "conclusions" but you never know about this sort of "thing" that these "people" are up to. There's probably just as much accurate news reporting in the Sunday paper horoscope these days.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    Story developing... read some article saying that ISIS posted something about the shooter on their media website or some shit like that (a bit drunk, lol). Didn't check the source though. Not sure if true.
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  • badbrains
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    brianlux said:

    Don't you love how the press is already calling the shooter a "terrorist"- just like that, in quotes. It's like they're saying, Well we wouldn't want to come to any "conclusions" but you never know about this sort of "thing" that these "people" are up to. There's probably just as much accurate news reporting in the Sunday paper horoscope these days.

    NOTHING surprises me anymore when it comes to this shit. Amazing, first there was multiple shooters (as always) then there's ONLY 1. Ya I know, everyone was confused and didn't know at the time there was only 1 shooter. Yet news reports ALWAYS say "shooters" and somehow mysteriously it becomes 1 shooter DEAD and no one can ask questions. ALWAYS. It's becoming comical with the media. I agree with you brian.
  • unsung said:

    You guys should ban the gunz.

    We have.

    That's why these types of occurrences are extremely rare, You guys should follow our lead... exercise the most basic level of common sense... and find the same level of peace for yourselves- it's very comforting walking down our streets and not assuming people have handguns under their jackets.

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  • unsung
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    Criminals prefer their victims to be defenseless. I wouldn't be surprised if Canada had more of these, much like our US "gun-free" zones.
  • dignin
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    unsung said:

    Criminals prefer their victims to be defenseless. I wouldn't be surprised if Canada had more of these, much like our US "gun-free" zones.

    Have you ever been to Canada?

  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    A long time ago.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    You should come up here for a PJ show when they come around again and spend some time here. You might be surprised at how safe you would feel......even in our "gun-free" zones.