Soccer Player Dies Celebrating Goal

PJ_Soul

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

Maybe this will make FIFA or whoever (not a soccer fan) put an end to the RIDICULOUS bullshit that soccer players pull on the field after scoring.... not to mentioned all the shameful dives that make a mockery of their sport.

Terrible for the dead player's family and his teammates though. :(

That won't happen. It's part of the game, kind of like fighting in the nhl. Although they are trying to get rid of that shit to.

"They" aren't trying to get rid of fighting in the NHL. Some random vocal minority is.
But there is a big difference in any case. Fighting in the NHL actually serves a purpose. Intimidate the opponent. Shake them up. Bring out their emotions and hopefully make them commit mistakes.
Tearing off your shirt and doing back flips like an idiot serves no purpose at all as far as playing or winning the game goes.

Oh no they ARE trying to get rid of fighting in the NHL, trust me on this. It is a tradition but corporate doesn't care about tradition.

Well then who is "they"? If you mean the NHL, then there is no trying. They could just change the rules and hand out automatic suspensions for fighting and the problem is solved. That theu haven't done that tells me they're not trying very hard. Is there some other "they" that I'm forgetting?

(Such a stupid concept btw (just in general). Get rid of fighting in professional hockey... meanwhile, ultimate fighting grows and grows and boxing is losing popularity because it's not violent enough, lol).

badbrains

PJ_Soul said:

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

Maybe this will make FIFA or whoever (not a soccer fan) put an end to the RIDICULOUS bullshit that soccer players pull on the field after scoring.... not to mentioned all the shameful dives that make a mockery of their sport.

Terrible for the dead player's family and his teammates though. :(

That won't happen. It's part of the game, kind of like fighting in the nhl. Although they are trying to get rid of that shit to.

"They" aren't trying to get rid of fighting in the NHL. Some random vocal minority is.
But there is a big difference in any case. Fighting in the NHL actually serves a purpose. Intimidate the opponent. Shake them up. Bring out their emotions and hopefully make them commit mistakes.
Tearing off your shirt and doing back flips like an idiot serves no purpose at all as far as playing or winning the game goes.

Oh no they ARE trying to get rid of fighting in the NHL, trust me on this. It is a tradition but corporate doesn't care about tradition.

Well then who is "they"? If you mean the NHL, then there is no trying. They could just change the rules and hand out automatic suspensions for fighting and the problem is solved. That theu haven't done that tells me they're not trying very hard. Is there some other "they" that I'm forgetting?

(Such a stupid concept btw (just in general). Get rid of fighting in professional hockey... meanwhile, ultimate fighting grows and grows and boxing is losing popularity because it's not violent enough, lol).

Trust me, they are trying to get rid of fighting. I have friends in "high" places. That's all I'll say.

PJ_Soul

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

Maybe this will make FIFA or whoever (not a soccer fan) put an end to the RIDICULOUS bullshit that soccer players pull on the field after scoring.... not to mentioned all the shameful dives that make a mockery of their sport.

Terrible for the dead player's family and his teammates though. :(

That won't happen. It's part of the game, kind of like fighting in the nhl. Although they are trying to get rid of that shit to.

"They" aren't trying to get rid of fighting in the NHL. Some random vocal minority is.
But there is a big difference in any case. Fighting in the NHL actually serves a purpose. Intimidate the opponent. Shake them up. Bring out their emotions and hopefully make them commit mistakes.
Tearing off your shirt and doing back flips like an idiot serves no purpose at all as far as playing or winning the game goes.

Oh no they ARE trying to get rid of fighting in the NHL, trust me on this. It is a tradition but corporate doesn't care about tradition.

Well then who is "they"? If you mean the NHL, then there is no trying. They could just change the rules and hand out automatic suspensions for fighting and the problem is solved. That theu haven't done that tells me they're not trying very hard. Is there some other "they" that I'm forgetting?

(Such a stupid concept btw (just in general). Get rid of fighting in professional hockey... meanwhile, ultimate fighting grows and grows and boxing is losing popularity because it's not violent enough, lol).

Trust me, they are trying to get rid of fighting. I have friends in "high" places. That's all I'll say.

I am friends with the son of a certain NHL team president, and that person doesn't particularly agree with what you're saying, so I guess it depends on who you ask.... so at the very least, it's still in the stages of question and debate, not at the point of "trying to get of it" at the level where anyone can actually make it happen. Again, "they" should actually be the ones who CAN get rid of it. And if "they" are trying to get rid of it, then they would.

rgambs

PJ_Soul said:

Maybe this will make FIFA or whoever (not a soccer fan) put an end to the RIDICULOUS bullshit that soccer players pull on the field after scoring.... not to mentioned all the shameful dives that make a mockery of their sport.

Terrible for the dead player's family and his teammates though. :(

I'd be more likely to watch futbol if they eliminated the shameful, pathetic, "flopping"! It bothers me way more than the celebrations. Sportsgames in general is lame, it is probably the only ideological divide between me and PJ (ed and Jeff anyways)
Bunch of overgrown babies being treated like kings for playing games to entertain the dull masses. Yuck. Give me art.
Or at least a combat sport like MMA that makes sense. I want to scream at football fans " get off your ass and DO something!"

PJ_Soul

rgambs said:

PJ_Soul said:

Maybe this will make FIFA or whoever (not a soccer fan) put an end to the RIDICULOUS bullshit that soccer players pull on the field after scoring.... not to mentioned all the shameful dives that make a mockery of their sport.

Terrible for the dead player's family and his teammates though. :(

I'd be more likely to watch futbol if they eliminated the shameful, pathetic, "flopping"! It bothers me way more than the celebrations. Sportsgames in general is lame, it is probably the only ideological divide between me and PJ (ed and Jeff anyways)
Bunch of overgrown babies being treated like kings for playing games to entertain the dull masses. Yuck. Give me art.
Or at least a combat sport like MMA that makes sense. I want to scream at football fans " get off your ass and DO something!"

Absolutely. As I mentioned, the diving makes a mockery of the sport - it is the main reason I hate soccer.

badbrains

PJ_Soul said:

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

Maybe this will make FIFA or whoever (not a soccer fan) put an end to the RIDICULOUS bullshit that soccer players pull on the field after scoring.... not to mentioned all the shameful dives that make a mockery of their sport.

Terrible for the dead player's family and his teammates though. :(

That won't happen. It's part of the game, kind of like fighting in the nhl. Although they are trying to get rid of that shit to.

"They" aren't trying to get rid of fighting in the NHL. Some random vocal minority is.
But there is a big difference in any case. Fighting in the NHL actually serves a purpose. Intimidate the opponent. Shake them up. Bring out their emotions and hopefully make them commit mistakes.
Tearing off your shirt and doing back flips like an idiot serves no purpose at all as far as playing or winning the game goes.

Oh no they ARE trying to get rid of fighting in the NHL, trust me on this. It is a tradition but corporate doesn't care about tradition.

Well then who is "they"? If you mean the NHL, then there is no trying. They could just change the rules and hand out automatic suspensions for fighting and the problem is solved. That theu haven't done that tells me they're not trying very hard. Is there some other "they" that I'm forgetting?

(Such a stupid concept btw (just in general). Get rid of fighting in professional hockey... meanwhile, ultimate fighting grows and grows and boxing is losing popularity because it's not violent enough, lol).

Trust me, they are trying to get rid of fighting. I have friends in "high" places. That's all I'll say.

I am friends with the son of a certain NHL team president, and that person doesn't particularly agree with what you're saying, so I guess it depends on who you ask.... so at the very least, it's still in the stages of question and debate, not at the point of "trying to get of it" at the level where anyone can actually make it happen. Again, "they" should actually be the ones who CAN get rid of it. And if "they" are trying to get rid of it, then they would.

You're friends with a son of a certain nhl team president, my friend is "in" the "league" offices and "they" don't give 2 shits what anyone else thinks about what they're trying to do with fighting. This isn't something "they" can do overnight because "they" know fighting is tradition and "part" of the game. Just look at how many fighters are in the league these days. Just look at the leafs squad from just last year. Fighting is slowly gonna get eliminated from the league because "they" don't want it in the league for future lawsuits and what have you. Look at the nfl and concussions. Now look at the nhl and the "brain/concussion" injuries. Look at the players that died in the nhl last few years (boogard and already forgot that player that killed himself). Nhl wants to put a stop to these injuries before they have a problem like the nfl. Again, trust me, they're trying to eliminate fighting and slowly they are succeeding.

Last-12-Exit

Ultimate fighting gained in popularity due to boxings rapid decline. Boxing fell off the face of the earth because of Don king types corrupting every fight and every fighter. The public got tired of the fix.

Then Dana white "reinvented" the UFC. I won't argue that it's popularity rose quickly because its more violent than boxing. But I think it had more to do with its "purity." It was real and the fighters were not being paid to take a fall. Plus, the scorers weren't on the take as well. Ten years ago, when a fight went all 3 (or 5) rounds in the UFC, you could be 95% positive that the scorers got it correct.

But the ugly smell of money has penetrated the UFC. I've stopped watching it because it's become abundantly clear that the fights are fixed. Plus, Dana has watered it down to the point where these fights are meaningless anymore. Idk if they are still have a PPV event every month or not. But IMO, that was to much. The UFC will fall just as hard as boxing did if they don't clean up their act.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

I still remember my friends and I travelling on the bus from university to hit a pub that would show ultimate fighting (very few pubs showed these fights back then). This was in 1990 and it was 'tournament style ' where fighters would advance to the finals after 2 pre-final fights. There were no rounds- the fight went as long as it took for someone to tap out or get knocked out.

Royce Gracie used to choke everybody out then in a most efficient, but boring manner.

It has changed significantly for the worse and I have to agree with the last post that UFC has become somewhat 'impure'.

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Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

I still remember my friends and I travelling on the bus from university to hit a pub that would show ultimate fighting (very few pubs showed these fights back then). This was in 1990 and it was 'tournament style ' where fighters would advance to the finals after 2 pre-final fights. There were no rounds- the fight went as long as it took for someone to tap out or get knocked out.

Royce Gracie used to choke everybody out then in a most efficient, but boring manner.

It has changed significantly for the worse and I have to agree with the last post that UFC has become somewhat 'impure'.

I remember those first 4 ufc tournaments. Like you said, no rounds, no weight classes. It was "real" disciplined street fighting. I believe it was pretty much banned (or at least not sanctioned anywhere). Only 3 rules: no biting, no eye poking, and no dick punching. Other than that, it was on!

Gracie won 3 of the first 4. He would have won all 4 but he opted not to participate in the third event.

r00thless91

Not to be mean but when I first saw this, I thought he was faking an injury like they always do in soccer. Then I realized the dude was dead and said "well, shit." Cry wolf I guess..

badbrains

r00thless91 said:

Not to be mean but when I first saw this, I thought he was faking an injury like they always do in soccer. Then I realized the dude was dead and said "well, shit." Cry wolf I guess..

You're from Santa Ana? Holyshit, I grew up in Anaheim. Katella and Knott ave! Fucken Santana Ana, woooooo!

r00thless91

Badbrains, i was in that area just last week. But I think it's considered Buena park. B-)

brianlux

r00thless91 said:

Not to be mean but when I first saw this, I thought he was faking an injury like they always do in soccer. Then I realized the dude was dead and said "well, shit." Cry wolf I guess..

I didn't know faking injuries is common in soccer. Why do they do that?

I don't know how others feel but to me, watching soccer on TV is extremely tedious (a long game with very little scoring) and boring and yet when I lived in the bay area I went to a few San Jose Earthquakes games and live, the games were very exciting. I don't know why that is.

badbrains

r00thless91 said:

Badbrains, i was in that area just last week. But I think it's considered Buena park. B-)

My mailing address was Anaheim and DMV said Anaheim. But down on Knott by knots berry farm is buana park. My area anaheim

PJ_Soul

brianlux said:

r00thless91 said:

Not to be mean but when I first saw this, I thought he was faking an injury like they always do in soccer. Then I realized the dude was dead and said "well, shit." Cry wolf I guess..

I didn't know faking injuries is common in soccer. Why do they do that?

I don't know how others feel but to me, watching soccer on TV is extremely tedious (a long game with very little scoring) and boring and yet when I lived in the bay area I went to a few San Jose Earthquakes games and live, the games were very exciting. I don't know why that is.

First they take a dive and then act as though they've just had their leg sawed off with a rusty butter knife, lol. They do it because 1) they are trying to draw a bullshit penalty (so they're cheating), and 2) because the culture of professional soccer has bred an army of fucking drama queens.

r00thless91

badbrains said:

r00thless91 said:

Badbrains, i was in that area just last week. But I think it's considered Buena park. B-)

My mailing address was Anaheim and DMV said Anaheim. But down on Knott by knots berry farm is buana park. My area anaheim

Well howdy, neighborino

r00thless91

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

r00thless91 said:

Not to be mean but when I first saw this, I thought he was faking an injury like they always do in soccer. Then I realized the dude was dead and said "well, shit." Cry wolf I guess..

I didn't know faking injuries is common in soccer. Why do they do that?

I don't know how others feel but to me, watching soccer on TV is extremely tedious (a long game with very little scoring) and boring and yet when I lived in the bay area I went to a few San Jose Earthquakes games and live, the games were very exciting. I don't know why that is.

First they take a dive and then act as though they've just had their leg sawed off with a rusty butter knife, lol. They do it because 1) they are trying to draw a bullshit penalty (so they're cheating), and 2) because the culture of professional soccer has bred an army of fucking drama queens.

If you need acting lessons, go watch a couple soccer matches. Some of those dives are Oscar worthy =D>

brianlux

Maybe they should start wearing tutus? Say, that would be kinda cool, huh?