Not sure what you mean by more creative, art is in the eye of the beholder. Like 63Schoefflin, I really like the Lincoln print. It seems more often than not, PJ posters are tied to the cities/areas they play, but not always. And there are thousands of gig posters created every year, so bound to get some overlap. As amazing as an artist like EMEK, or Chuck Sperry,, you see a great deal of similar stuff in each of their prints.
The being more creative was directed at the Seattle 2013 poster which was a complete replica of a previous D Face print from las vegas see:
In terms of overlap, there's really only 10-20 PJ posters coming out a year. I get that artists like Emek like to use similar themes, it just seems that with the amount of money involved, it wouldn't be too hard to switch things up.
In 5 minutes, I could come up with more creative themes for the next few shows:
Memphis - fat elvis wrestling a grizzly bear
Detroit - (forefront) lightning bolt though a red wings logo, with a background of decaying buildings being overtaken by plants
Moline - love boat captain on a mississippi river paddle wheeler w/john deere colours
etc...
1992-07-21 Vancouver
1993-9-4 Vancouver
1996-9-16 Seattle
1998-7-19 Vancouver, 7-21 Seattle, Memorial Stadium
2000-11-6 Seattle
2001-10-22 Seattle
2002 -12-09 Seattle
2009-8-17 Manchester, 9-25 Vancouver
2011-6-16 Seattle (EV), 9-3/4 PJ20, 9-25 Vancouver
2012-6-27 Amsterdam (#2!)
2013-11-29 Portland, 12-4 Vancouver, 12-6 Seattle
2014-AUS - 1-26 Sydney, 1-31 Adelaide, 2-11/12 EV Sydney State Theatre, 2-13 EV Opera House
2014 - USA - Memphis, Detroit, MOLINE, St. Paul, MILWAUKEE, Denver, 25/26 Bridge School
2016 - Lexington, Philly x 2, MSG x 2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto x 2, Pemberton, Fenway x 2, Wrigley x 2 2018 - Seattle x 2, Missoula, Fenway x 2
Hopefully the St Paul poster is unicorns jumping over double rainbows in fields of flowers with butterflies.
Here's an early rough sketch of the soon to be PJ St.Paul '14 print. :-B
this is awesome, good job!
1992-07-21 Vancouver
1993-9-4 Vancouver
1996-9-16 Seattle
1998-7-19 Vancouver, 7-21 Seattle, Memorial Stadium
2000-11-6 Seattle
2001-10-22 Seattle
2002 -12-09 Seattle
2009-8-17 Manchester, 9-25 Vancouver
2011-6-16 Seattle (EV), 9-3/4 PJ20, 9-25 Vancouver
2012-6-27 Amsterdam (#2!)
2013-11-29 Portland, 12-4 Vancouver, 12-6 Seattle
2014-AUS - 1-26 Sydney, 1-31 Adelaide, 2-11/12 EV Sydney State Theatre, 2-13 EV Opera House
2014 - USA - Memphis, Detroit, MOLINE, St. Paul, MILWAUKEE, Denver, 25/26 Bridge School
2016 - Lexington, Philly x 2, MSG x 2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto x 2, Pemberton, Fenway x 2, Wrigley x 2 2018 - Seattle x 2, Missoula, Fenway x 2
I'll admit it, like many PJ fans, I am a poster geek. It started years ago with "ill just get ones from shows I've been to" but has now morphed into "just getting really cool ones" (which for me, Oslo is the only one this year).
To me it seems that a lot of the fans/consumers, put a lot of effort into displaying the posters. Most of us are at an age where, they're not just getting tacked up on some dorm wall; they're getting the royal treatment, being displayed in multi-matted frames that sometimes cost upwards of $200 - 300 just for the frames (see: massive 300 page thread for proof).
So all I'm saying is that as PJ expands the amount of artists they're using (which is cool and fresh), it would be nice to have a bit of a directive from the band, or communication between the artists so that skulls don't appear in so many posters. They just look played out, boring, and tired.
Feel free to flame me down if you think I'm way off base, and I'm not saying the band should curtail artistic freedom, but like in the last year, skulls have appeared in Vancouver, Auckland, Amsterdam (year that one is cooler because of the description), Baltimore, Charlottesville, Lincoln, Tulsa, and maybe more.
Personally, I would prefer city-specific posters. Like in Seattle 09 Surfing sasquatch was rad incorporating the space needle and pacific north west elements, or just other fresh new ideas.
Anyways, that's my rant, I'd be keen to hear what others think.
Skulls seem brainless and macho. I bet Chad Krieger has a lot of shirts with skulls on them.
I'd say that's a pretty heavy over generalization. Lincoln was pretty unmacho and well thought out, as are Emek's posters, despite a consistent use of skulls. Just my 2 cents. I agree about the Chad Kreuger comment.
I'm ok with skulls. But for the love of all things wonderful in this universe - NO MORE JEFF "Let Me Draw the Same God Damn Thing Over and Over" SOTO!!
I concur. Too many skulls. There are a couple of skull posters that are cool (like the most recent with the lighthouse.... i kind of liked that), but it's getting ridiculous now. So many skulls! I guess some really love them. There is a LOT of skull art in this world, so it's obviously popular. For me, i just find them too.... what? Masculine? Deathly? Skid-like? Whatever it is, it's definitely also highly unoriginal in almost all cases (Yeah, except for the Riot Act skulls, of course. )
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Artists will draw what they are comfortable with. Most don't draw skulls and most won't tailed their skills to draw something city related. Not saying it wouldn't prefer the city related ones but that's just the facts. Thousands of gigposters come out a year... Some good, some bad. Life goes on.
Plus if I bought a print for every show I'd have my flatfile almost filled with gigprints alone.
due to an overwhelming amount of posters that i currently have, i only buy posters that are unique/interesting, and if i attended the show. and, i'd have to agree with the op. my wife texted me from the merch line in lincoln about the poster, and i told her to skip because it wasn't very original. (and on a side note, the t-shirts and hoodie on this tour could use some work as well)
i would agree to have posters thematically match the location of the venue. when i was at the pittsburgh show and saw the steel worker, it was immediately a must have.
i would also suggest doing more like the SLC Red Mosquito poster, which is in the top 5 of all time. I feel so lucky to have gone to that show just because of the poster.
so in short skulls seem obvious and lazy and overdone.
I've yet to attend a Comic Con. :( Thank god few of my favorite artists that are @ these shows are able to save a few prints & sell them online for schmucks like me that couldn't make it.
Memphis...this is great! No skulls and instead incorporating the music into a poster, fantastic!
1992-07-21 Vancouver
1993-9-4 Vancouver
1996-9-16 Seattle
1998-7-19 Vancouver, 7-21 Seattle, Memorial Stadium
2000-11-6 Seattle
2001-10-22 Seattle
2002 -12-09 Seattle
2009-8-17 Manchester, 9-25 Vancouver
2011-6-16 Seattle (EV), 9-3/4 PJ20, 9-25 Vancouver
2012-6-27 Amsterdam (#2!)
2013-11-29 Portland, 12-4 Vancouver, 12-6 Seattle
2014-AUS - 1-26 Sydney, 1-31 Adelaide, 2-11/12 EV Sydney State Theatre, 2-13 EV Opera House
2014 - USA - Memphis, Detroit, MOLINE, St. Paul, MILWAUKEE, Denver, 25/26 Bridge School
2016 - Lexington, Philly x 2, MSG x 2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto x 2, Pemberton, Fenway x 2, Wrigley x 2 2018 - Seattle x 2, Missoula, Fenway x 2
Haha, looks like I jumped the gun, there is a skull on the carpet but at least it's subtle and covered up!
1992-07-21 Vancouver
1993-9-4 Vancouver
1996-9-16 Seattle
1998-7-19 Vancouver, 7-21 Seattle, Memorial Stadium
2000-11-6 Seattle
2001-10-22 Seattle
2002 -12-09 Seattle
2009-8-17 Manchester, 9-25 Vancouver
2011-6-16 Seattle (EV), 9-3/4 PJ20, 9-25 Vancouver
2012-6-27 Amsterdam (#2!)
2013-11-29 Portland, 12-4 Vancouver, 12-6 Seattle
2014-AUS - 1-26 Sydney, 1-31 Adelaide, 2-11/12 EV Sydney State Theatre, 2-13 EV Opera House
2014 - USA - Memphis, Detroit, MOLINE, St. Paul, MILWAUKEE, Denver, 25/26 Bridge School
2016 - Lexington, Philly x 2, MSG x 2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto x 2, Pemberton, Fenway x 2, Wrigley x 2 2018 - Seattle x 2, Missoula, Fenway x 2
Wow, Denver just epitomizes this thread. How brutal is that? I know when I listen to PJ's messages of positivity, that the first thing that comes to mind is spider/skull! Wtf, I'm pretty sure I had to fight the thing that's in that poster in an old Zelda game. Terrible.
1992-07-21 Vancouver
1993-9-4 Vancouver
1996-9-16 Seattle
1998-7-19 Vancouver, 7-21 Seattle, Memorial Stadium
2000-11-6 Seattle
2001-10-22 Seattle
2002 -12-09 Seattle
2009-8-17 Manchester, 9-25 Vancouver
2011-6-16 Seattle (EV), 9-3/4 PJ20, 9-25 Vancouver
2012-6-27 Amsterdam (#2!)
2013-11-29 Portland, 12-4 Vancouver, 12-6 Seattle
2014-AUS - 1-26 Sydney, 1-31 Adelaide, 2-11/12 EV Sydney State Theatre, 2-13 EV Opera House
2014 - USA - Memphis, Detroit, MOLINE, St. Paul, MILWAUKEE, Denver, 25/26 Bridge School
2016 - Lexington, Philly x 2, MSG x 2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto x 2, Pemberton, Fenway x 2, Wrigley x 2 2018 - Seattle x 2, Missoula, Fenway x 2
Memphis...this is great! No skulls and instead incorporating the music into a poster, fantastic!
I love Klausen... and i live bsnd/song themed prints... but I really thought Memphis was the perfect show for a city/region themed print... ESPECIALLY with all of the music history and culture in the area
Hopefully the St Paul poster is unicorns jumping over double rainbows in fields of flowers with butterflies.
Here's an early rough sketch of the soon to be PJ St.Paul '14 print. :-B
When is the S/N artist edition coming out?
Hopefully this Saturday night. If all goes well will have a few super duper variant edition copies that glows in the dark. The hidden image will be a huge Riot Act skull in the middle that glows.
Skulls are Rock and Roll and look sick on any poster. Skulls appear on the cover of Riot Act as well as the crowned skull graphic seen on stickers and patches. If you see these artists do posters for other bands like Dave Matthews or the Pixies you get a completely different vibe so I feel the artists know what the band digs and uses that for inspiration. You will also notice a lot of lightning bolts even though the album is 5 years old or however many. I think it’s cool they add that in. Keep the skulls coming.
I'd prefer not to have another blatent, heavy-handed skull poster. But we should never limit the artist and they're vision. And to their defense, They most likely do not know the extensive portfolio of previous prints from the past 20+ years of PJ/EV posters as us poster hounds do. Using skull imagery as an accessory is more to my liking(and probably to those who bother to read this thead) Lincoln 2014 is a gem representing Getaway and Camden '08 is well done, too. Each poster is a swing of that bat. Some hit a homer, others strike out. And there's a lot in between.
Funny...I was going to say that it should be monkeys/apes instead of skulls.
And while we're at it...why is it that it seems that 90%+ of all concert t-shirts are black...? (And please don't say it's because it's all the colors put together....)
I don't so much care about skulls or not. I just wish they would give more artists a chance. They keep regurgitating the same artists over and over, and that inevitably leads to similar and sometimes tired designs. But yeah, whatever they do, I'll surely buy them regardless
Funny...I was going to say that it should be monkeys/apes instead of skulls.
And while we're at it...why is it that it seems that 90%+ of all concert t-shirts are black...? (And please don't say it's because it's all the colors put together....)
Because the TSURT white shirts are so very lightweight that you can see a bra through it and read a newspaper through the double ply. Now, that may work for some, but it's not how I prefer to dress. If I am paying $35+ for a concert shirt, I would like it to be thicker than that. Doesn't have to be black, just not basically translucent.
Comments
http://www.streetartnews.net/2013/11/dface-new-street-art-las-vegas-usa-part.html
vs.
http://insidetherockposterframe.blogspot.com/2013/12/pearl-jam-seattle-poster-by-dface-shirt.html
In terms of overlap, there's really only 10-20 PJ posters coming out a year. I get that artists like Emek like to use similar themes, it just seems that with the amount of money involved, it wouldn't be too hard to switch things up.
In 5 minutes, I could come up with more creative themes for the next few shows:
Memphis - fat elvis wrestling a grizzly bear
Detroit - (forefront) lightning bolt though a red wings logo, with a background of decaying buildings being overtaken by plants
Moline - love boat captain on a mississippi river paddle wheeler w/john deere colours
etc...
1993-9-4 Vancouver
1996-9-16 Seattle
1998-7-19 Vancouver, 7-21 Seattle, Memorial Stadium
2000-11-6 Seattle
2001-10-22 Seattle
2002 -12-09 Seattle
2009-8-17 Manchester, 9-25 Vancouver
2011-6-16 Seattle (EV), 9-3/4 PJ20, 9-25 Vancouver
2012-6-27 Amsterdam (#2!)
2013-11-29 Portland, 12-4 Vancouver, 12-6 Seattle
2014-AUS - 1-26 Sydney, 1-31 Adelaide, 2-11/12 EV Sydney State Theatre, 2-13 EV Opera House
2014 - USA - Memphis, Detroit, MOLINE, St. Paul, MILWAUKEE, Denver, 25/26 Bridge School
2016 - Lexington, Philly x 2, MSG x 2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto x 2, Pemberton, Fenway x 2, Wrigley x 2
2018 - Seattle x 2, Missoula, Fenway x 2
1993-9-4 Vancouver
1996-9-16 Seattle
1998-7-19 Vancouver, 7-21 Seattle, Memorial Stadium
2000-11-6 Seattle
2001-10-22 Seattle
2002 -12-09 Seattle
2009-8-17 Manchester, 9-25 Vancouver
2011-6-16 Seattle (EV), 9-3/4 PJ20, 9-25 Vancouver
2012-6-27 Amsterdam (#2!)
2013-11-29 Portland, 12-4 Vancouver, 12-6 Seattle
2014-AUS - 1-26 Sydney, 1-31 Adelaide, 2-11/12 EV Sydney State Theatre, 2-13 EV Opera House
2014 - USA - Memphis, Detroit, MOLINE, St. Paul, MILWAUKEE, Denver, 25/26 Bridge School
2016 - Lexington, Philly x 2, MSG x 2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto x 2, Pemberton, Fenway x 2, Wrigley x 2
2018 - Seattle x 2, Missoula, Fenway x 2
Plus if I bought a print for every show I'd have my flatfile almost filled with gigprints alone.
'10- MSG 1-2 '11- PJ20
'12- MIA; DeLuna '13- Wrigley; Pitt; Brooklyn 1-2; Philly 1-2; Baltimore; Seattle
'14- Denver '16- Philly 1-2; MSG 2
'17- Pilgrimage Music Fest (Eddie)
'18- Fenway
i would agree to have posters thematically match the location of the venue. when i was at the pittsburgh show and saw the steel worker, it was immediately a must have.
i would also suggest doing more like the SLC Red Mosquito poster, which is in the top 5 of all time. I feel so lucky to have gone to that show just because of the poster.
so in short skulls seem obvious and lazy and overdone.
http://www.spoke-art.com/2014/10/05/spoke-art-at-the-new-york-comic-con-2014/
http://chucksperry.net/2014/10/justice-art-print-released-by-spoke-art-at-new-york-comic-convention/
I've yet to attend a Comic Con. :( Thank god few of my favorite artists that are @ these shows are able to save a few prints & sell them online for schmucks like me that couldn't make it.
1993-9-4 Vancouver
1996-9-16 Seattle
1998-7-19 Vancouver, 7-21 Seattle, Memorial Stadium
2000-11-6 Seattle
2001-10-22 Seattle
2002 -12-09 Seattle
2009-8-17 Manchester, 9-25 Vancouver
2011-6-16 Seattle (EV), 9-3/4 PJ20, 9-25 Vancouver
2012-6-27 Amsterdam (#2!)
2013-11-29 Portland, 12-4 Vancouver, 12-6 Seattle
2014-AUS - 1-26 Sydney, 1-31 Adelaide, 2-11/12 EV Sydney State Theatre, 2-13 EV Opera House
2014 - USA - Memphis, Detroit, MOLINE, St. Paul, MILWAUKEE, Denver, 25/26 Bridge School
2016 - Lexington, Philly x 2, MSG x 2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto x 2, Pemberton, Fenway x 2, Wrigley x 2
2018 - Seattle x 2, Missoula, Fenway x 2
1993-9-4 Vancouver
1996-9-16 Seattle
1998-7-19 Vancouver, 7-21 Seattle, Memorial Stadium
2000-11-6 Seattle
2001-10-22 Seattle
2002 -12-09 Seattle
2009-8-17 Manchester, 9-25 Vancouver
2011-6-16 Seattle (EV), 9-3/4 PJ20, 9-25 Vancouver
2012-6-27 Amsterdam (#2!)
2013-11-29 Portland, 12-4 Vancouver, 12-6 Seattle
2014-AUS - 1-26 Sydney, 1-31 Adelaide, 2-11/12 EV Sydney State Theatre, 2-13 EV Opera House
2014 - USA - Memphis, Detroit, MOLINE, St. Paul, MILWAUKEE, Denver, 25/26 Bridge School
2016 - Lexington, Philly x 2, MSG x 2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto x 2, Pemberton, Fenway x 2, Wrigley x 2
2018 - Seattle x 2, Missoula, Fenway x 2
1993-9-4 Vancouver
1996-9-16 Seattle
1998-7-19 Vancouver, 7-21 Seattle, Memorial Stadium
2000-11-6 Seattle
2001-10-22 Seattle
2002 -12-09 Seattle
2009-8-17 Manchester, 9-25 Vancouver
2011-6-16 Seattle (EV), 9-3/4 PJ20, 9-25 Vancouver
2012-6-27 Amsterdam (#2!)
2013-11-29 Portland, 12-4 Vancouver, 12-6 Seattle
2014-AUS - 1-26 Sydney, 1-31 Adelaide, 2-11/12 EV Sydney State Theatre, 2-13 EV Opera House
2014 - USA - Memphis, Detroit, MOLINE, St. Paul, MILWAUKEE, Denver, 25/26 Bridge School
2016 - Lexington, Philly x 2, MSG x 2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto x 2, Pemberton, Fenway x 2, Wrigley x 2
2018 - Seattle x 2, Missoula, Fenway x 2
Try not to be one. Make mom proud.
Dan Johns
Cincinnati 2014
Greenville 2016
(Raleigh 2016)
Columbia 2016
Raleigh, NC., 4/20/16, Columbia, SC., 4/21/16, Boston, MA., 8/5/16, Boston 9/2/18 & 9/4/18., Nashville, TN., 4/2/20., Nashville, TN., 9/16/22.EV Solo - Washington, D.C., 8/17/08, Atlanta, GA., 6/24/09, Orlando, FL., 11/27/12.
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