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JB196203JB196203 Rat City Posts: 13
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I’m seeing a trend that frankly sucks at PJ shows in the US. People with GA pit tickets that don’t want to get even the slightest bit rowdy during the show. Now I’m not saying we go Full Metal Ahole but let’s dance, jump around at least attempt to make take it up a step from a Gordon Lightfoot show. I know there are a few people usually towards the middle of the pit that get going but man I’m getting looks like I’m insane for doing a little jumping during Porch, DTE, Lukin… Please dudes these are rockers and I’m glad you brought your 9 year old to their first show but step back 10 feet in the pit and let some people get down.
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  • alizmializmi Baltimore...MD Posts: 196
    JB196203 said:

    I’m seeing a trend that frankly sucks at PJ shows in the US. People with GA pit tickets that don’t want to get even the slightest bit rowdy during the show. Now I’m not saying we go Full Metal Ahole but let’s dance, jump around at least attempt to make take it up a step from a Gordon Lightfoot show. I know there are a few people usually towards the middle of the pit that get going but man I’m getting looks like I’m insane for doing a little jumping during Porch, DTE, Lukin… Please dudes these are rockers and I’m glad you brought your 9 year old to their first show but step back 10 feet in the pit and let some people get down.

    I had the rail for Cincy and I can assure you that I didn't stop jumping the entire show. Just about every song other than parachutes and man of the hour and songs like that I spent half the time off the ground. I know for sure also that the guys around me (there were about 5 of us in a row that were Nuts!! I agree with you. It's a concert and we should be all out enjoying it.
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    alizmi said:

    JB196203 said:

    I’m seeing a trend that frankly sucks at PJ shows in the US. People with GA pit tickets that don’t want to get even the slightest bit rowdy during the show. Now I’m not saying we go Full Metal Ahole but let’s dance, jump around at least attempt to make take it up a step from a Gordon Lightfoot show. I know there are a few people usually towards the middle of the pit that get going but man I’m getting looks like I’m insane for doing a little jumping during Porch, DTE, Lukin… Please dudes these are rockers and I’m glad you brought your 9 year old to their first show but step back 10 feet in the pit and let some people get down.

    I had the rail for Cincy and I can assure you that I didn't stop jumping the entire show. Just about every song other than parachutes and man of the hour and songs like that I spent half the time off the ground. I know for sure also that the guys around me (there were about 5 of us in a row that were Nuts!! I agree with you. It's a concert and we should be all out enjoying it.
    Agree the middle 5 to 50 people are usually going off but man it's a sad state if you aren't in the first 3 rows right int he middle.
  • yellowwhoyellowwho Posts: 1,661
    I kinda agree. More fun time, less picture time. I definitely see some action going on in the pit but it could surely be better. The band for sure, feeds off the energy that is given back to them. Not saying that at times the pack ain't floppin like fishes out there, but you know, just a small tad of an improvement would be super. No head banging to Future Days or some crazy stuff like that, but you know, cut loose a morsel
  • nycratsnycrats Posts: 1,351
    maybe everyone is too pooped from standing in line for 15 hours
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  • alizmializmi Baltimore...MD Posts: 196
    nycrats said:

    maybe everyone is too pooped from standing in line for 15 hours

    Ha!! Long day waiting for sure!!
  • moses562moses562 Posts: 1,382
    Too many people getting everything on their phones. I was at ACL and their were people who held their phones up the entire time. Why?!
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  • rekab02rekab02 Posts: 59
    Agree, def a little too civilized these days. We need more motion, and maybe throw in some old school style beach balls for shits n giggs. We did in LA & Seattle last year and it was fun.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    rekab02 said:

    Agree, def a little too civilized these days. We need more motion, and maybe throw in some old school style beach balls for shits n giggs. We did in LA & Seattle last year and it was fun.

    I saw a beach ball in cincy GA
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,847
    If anyone wants to sell me a GA ticket for Milwaukee, I'd be happy to take one for the team and do what I can to liven things up.
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  • ldent42ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    I'm too injured for jumping lol
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,345
    We're getting older man - I mean, the band is coming out and sitting on chairs for 3-4 songs after the main set.
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    No, but all the GA tix request threads are. Lol
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,345
    badbrains said:

    No, but all the GA tix request threads are. Lol

    I want to say HALTS MAUL, but I'm not sure its' in the right context! : )
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,718
    Bring back full reserved seating next tour!!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    mcgruff10 said:

    Bring back full reserved seating next tour!!!

    HALTS MAUL AMEN! =))
  • northerndragonnortherndragon Posts: 9,851
    JB196203 said:

    I’m seeing a trend that frankly sucks at PJ shows in the US. People with GA pit tickets that don’t want to get even the slightest bit rowdy during the show. Now I’m not saying we go Full Metal Ahole but let’s dance, jump around at least attempt to make take it up a step from a Gordon Lightfoot show. I know there are a few people usually towards the middle of the pit that get going but man I’m getting looks like I’m insane for doing a little jumping during Porch, DTE, Lukin… Please dudes these are rockers and I’m glad you brought your 9 year old to their first show but step back 10 feet in the pit and let some people get down.

    You clearly are not getting rowdy enough if you still have time to notice other people :D
    I jump around and sing my ass off no matter where I am in the building it's just easier to do in GA. Will represent all of us who still have a wee '90s child stuck inside of us that we are willing to release to go a little nuts in the Denver pit.
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  • redstuff76redstuff76 Posts: 252
    Wow! I thought the same thing at the Pittsburgh show last year.

    When I go to a PJ show, im freaking excited. Most of the people around me acted like they were attending an art gallery show for super hipsters.

    And no I dont get too smashed and annoying like some people.

    For pete's sake, at least dance and sing!
  • Leezestarr313Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,374
    I think there is definitely a difference between European crowds and US crowds. Cannot say anything about Southern America, but I guess it even tops Europe. GA in America to me has always been a little more tame. And I actually like that. There is room to dance and jump. You don't feel like a sardine in a can full of sweat. 8th row in the pit in America is awesome, in Europe it can feel like a marathon physically (which is pretty awesome too, but exhausting). 8th row in the pit in Europa can be a mess and make you want to go farther away. I think it has to do with the age of the audience. To me it always seemed like the European audience is a little younger, maybe that is why the pit is a bit more agitated physically. Cool thing about the pit is, if you don't like it at one spot, you can move.
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Leezestarr313 said:

    I think there is definitely a difference between European crowds and US crowds. Cannot say anything about Southern America, but I guess it even tops Europe. GA in America to me has always been a little more tame. And I actually like that. There is room to dance and jump. You don't feel like a sardine in a can full of sweat. 8th row in the pit in America is awesome, in Europe it can feel like a marathon physically (which is pretty awesome too, but exhausting). 8th row in the pit in Europa can be a mess and make you want to go farther away. I think it has to do with the age of the audience. To me it always seemed like the European audience is a little younger, maybe that is why the pit is a bit more agitated physically. Cool thing about the pit is, if you don't like it at one spot, you can move.

    100% leeze. In Amsterdam I had GA, walked in and tried to buy water as I was walking in. Told they don't take euros. Who the fuck doesn't take euros lol. Go buy those fucken tokens and water. By the time I got to the GA, I was standing behind what seemed like fucken 12 guys 7FT tall, no bullshit. Ended up walking to the soundboard and look who I see sitting down on his smartphone? Dimi. Ended up rocking out with that fucker the whole night! It was as speedy would say, "epic."

    On a side note, I think more people ended up in the 10C GA then had those bracelets. Where I was first standing, the guys had no clue who the fuck pearl jam was, which was funny. Oh well, fuck it. Wish I knew about HALTS MAUL then! =))
  • iamloco724iamloco724 Brooklyn NY Posts: 1,441
    Everyone enjoys shows differently, I don't have to jump to have a good time nor can I really jump without potentially hurting my self, I still enjoy the shows very much and I'm vocally into it and as much physically as I can be
  • nycratsnycrats Posts: 1,351
    Big difference too in europe v america is they sell they entire floor as ga in europe, as opposed to just 1/3rd of the floor as a pit in the us. Europe also isnt tenclub only, they sell those tix on ticketmaster AND they way oversell it and dont really ,momitor who goes down there. Ill take the "tame" or "lame" us ga style any day over the sardines for europe.
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  • lbpeltzlbpeltz Posts: 110
    moses562 said:

    Too many people getting everything on their phones. I was at ACL and their were people who held their phones up the entire time. Why?!

    Guilty. Facetime'd my girlfriend to show her imagine. I was thinking about what an ass i was too.
  • tino_11tino_11 Posts: 2,152
    Leezestarr313 said:

    I think there is definitely a difference between European crowds and US crowds. Cannot say anything about Southern America, but I guess it even tops Europe. GA in America to me has always been a little more tame. And I actually like that. There is room to dance and jump. You don't feel like a sardine in a can full of sweat. 8th row in the pit in America is awesome, in Europe it can feel like a marathon physically (which is pretty awesome too, but exhausting). 8th row in the pit in Europa can be a mess and make you want to go farther away. I think it has to do with the age of the audience. To me it always seemed like the European audience is a little younger, maybe that is why the pit is a bit more agitated physically. Cool thing about the pit is, if you don't like it at one spot, you can move.

    Yeah, the pit can still be good in Europe. By the time State of Love and Trust was played in Leeds I was physically beat! I had a great time though!
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,057
    At the US shows I've witnessed from up in the Reserved seats, the smartphone is the disconnect. Videotaping 70% of the show and not being present kinda keeps one from being super rowdy. It's not just at concerts, the phone has it's claws in the general population everywhere, any city street, airport, or subway. Just my opinion, but a lot of y'all are a bunch a effin zombies.

    The Leeds UK GA for me (right in the center 4 rows back) was a marathon of Push Me, Pull Me, during anything mildly uptempo, a constant battle to stay grounded and make sure the missus wasn't getting overwhelmed and I was spent at the end, happy, but spent. The 28 year old me would have dealt with it a lot better than the 48 year old me, for sure, but I endured. It surely wasn't lame, but I could have dealt with a click or two less enthusiasm, or doucheyness.

    AND there were just as many phones in the way!
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  • deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    alizmi said:

    JB196203 said:

    I’m seeing a trend that frankly sucks at PJ shows in the US. People with GA pit tickets that don’t want to get even the slightest bit rowdy during the show. Now I’m not saying we go Full Metal Ahole but let’s dance, jump around at least attempt to make take it up a step from a Gordon Lightfoot show. I know there are a few people usually towards the middle of the pit that get going but man I’m getting looks like I’m insane for doing a little jumping during Porch, DTE, Lukin… Please dudes these are rockers and I’m glad you brought your 9 year old to their first show but step back 10 feet in the pit and let some people get down.

    I had the rail for Cincy and I can assure you that I didn't stop jumping the entire show. Just about every song other than parachutes and man of the hour and songs like that I spent half the time off the ground. I know for sure also that the guys around me (there were about 5 of us in a row that were Nuts!! I agree with you. It's a concert and we should be all out enjoying it.
    I was on the rail in Cincinnati. I danced, sang, jumped and bounced for 3 hours and 15 minutes straight. I was so exhausted by the time we got home 4 hours later that I could barely walk. I gave it everything I had.
    the tiki bomb said:

    At the US shows I've witnessed from up in the Reserved seats, the smartphone is the disconnect. Videotaping 70% of the show and not being present kinda keeps one from being super rowdy. It's not just at concerts, the phone has it's claws in the general population everywhere, any city street, airport, or subway. Just my opinion, but a lot of y'all are a bunch a effin zombies.

    I didn't watch the concert from my phone or camera. My husband took some pictures (not many at all) with our camera, but we both watched and enjoyed. We agree. The phones and social media have kept people from being here now.

    Put the damned phone down and enjoy the show!
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,057
    edited October 2014
    image

    I brought a camera...
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  • SuziemaySuziemay Posts: 11,168
    JB196203 said:

    I’m seeing a trend that frankly sucks at PJ shows in the US. People with GA pit tickets that don’t want to get even the slightest bit rowdy during the show. Now I’m not saying we go Full Metal Ahole but let’s dance, jump around at least attempt to make take it up a step from a Gordon Lightfoot show. I know there are a few people usually towards the middle of the pit that get going but man I’m getting looks like I’m insane for doing a little jumping during Porch, DTE, Lukin… Please dudes these are rockers and I’m glad you brought your 9 year old to their first show but step back 10 feet in the pit and let some people get down.

    Please elaborate on this "trend". What shows were you at and what shows are you comparing this to? I've been in the pit for both Europe and US shows recently, Europe tends to be more rowdy but also more unsafe. US is less rough which I appreciate, but doesn't mean that people aren't enjoying the show. Less jumping in US than in Europe, but that doesn't stop me, and I haven't gotten any weird looks. In fact others often join in! I can't imagine that you mean that the energy was better back when it was all seats. I'm curious to understand your point of view.

    My only disappointment with GA in the US is sometimes the pit isn't full, like in St. Louis. It's kind of a bummer to see empty floor at a PJ concert.
  • SuziemaySuziemay Posts: 11,168
    edited October 2014
    the tiki bomb said:

    image

    I brought a camera...

    HOW DARE YOU!!! :D

    PS sweet pic!
  • deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    the tiki bomb said:

    image

    I brought a camera...

    Yes, you did. Awesome! We weren't so front and center. We were right in front of the speakers and pipe and drape thing, but Eddie did come over and belt out a good chunk of Porch for us right in front of me. :sigh: It was delightful.
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