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  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    YieldInHiding wrote:
    I need to download that Nashville show.

    Which year? '00 or '03?

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • YieldInHiding
    YieldInHiding Posts: 1,841
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    Which year? '00 or '03?

    PBM

    Wait, was it Knoxville 98?
    No longer overwhelmed it seems so simple now.
  • BlkFlg1
    BlkFlg1 Posts: 156
    PBM: I like many of the principles in Ishmael, but feel that it is too one-sided. I agree, that developmentally, humans had a crucial point in history where we chose we would dominate nature, but I alos agree that that gave us many, many new benefits. It also gave us, many, many new problems. I belive everything grows and stagnation is not "natural"- this means there is no golden age to return too, no "perfect world". The fundamental rule in organic life is that things are born simple and become more complex and are completly changing all of the time. No movement=death.

    Im also a big fan of "spiral dynamics" which describes the development of the human moral outlook/conciousness. one of the core principles is that development is healthy and what comes next needs to build on what has come before- its like a bridge- you cant knock down one level without taking what is above it out as well. The reason we have philosophy and higher ed is because the industrial revolution created the economy and lifestyle so the average man could be plato, et6c. etc.

    my 2 cents.....
    YIELD Fan Club Sergeant-At-Arms
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    YieldInHiding wrote:
    Wait, was it Knoxville 98?

    Yes...the 9 year anniversary is coming up next Thursday...5 YIELD tunes.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • BlkFlg1
    BlkFlg1 Posts: 156
    YieldInHiding wrote:
    Wait, was it Knoxville 98?

    u have the lolla boot? is it in the cave? i need to get that....
    YIELD Fan Club Sergeant-At-Arms
  • YieldInHiding
    YieldInHiding Posts: 1,841
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    Yes...the 9 year anniversary is coming up next Thursday...5 YIELD tunes.

    PBM


    6697 would never say "tunes."

    *tear*
    No longer overwhelmed it seems so simple now.
  • YieldInHiding
    YieldInHiding Posts: 1,841
    BlkFlg wrote:
    PBM: I like many of the principles in Ishmael, but feel that it is too one-sided. I agree, that developmentally, humans had a crucial point in history where we chose we would dominate nature, but I alos agree that that gave us many, many new benefits. It also gave us, many, many new problems. I belive everything grows and stagnation is not "natural"- this means there is no golden age to return too, no "perfect world". The fundamental rule in organic life is that things are born simple and become more complex and are completly changing all of the time. No movement=death.

    Im also a big fan of "spiral dynamics" which describes the development of the human moral outlook/conciousness. one of the core principles is that development is healthy and what comes next needs to build on what has come before- its like a bridge- you cant knock down one level without taking what is above it out as well. The reason we have philosophy and higher ed is because the industrial revolution created the economy and lifestyle so the average man could be plato, et6c. etc.

    my 2 cents.....

    There's a lot to talk about here.

    I think MFC covers the not moving part. Perhaps MFC and it's message of escape could mean an escape from stagnation and moving on to explore new ways of thinking about the world. Obviously Ed has his meaning, but if you look in the context of YIELD's message, it could definitely fit.
    No longer overwhelmed it seems so simple now.
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    BlkFlg wrote:
    PBM: I like many of the principles in Ishmael, but feel that it is too one-sided. I agree, that developmentally, humans had a crucial point in history where we chose we would dominate nature, but I alos agree that that gave us many, many new benefits. It also gave us, many, many new problems. I belive everything grows and stagnation is not "natural"- this means there is no golden age to return too, no "perfect world". The fundamental rule in organic life is that things are born simple and become more complex and are completly changing all of the time. No movement=death.

    I think we can evolve, but we shouldn't have to abandon our principles, our ethics, our morals. It seems that greed and an egotistical attitude are byproducts of our evolution.

    Why is "our way" (that of man) assumed to be the correct way?

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    YieldInHiding wrote:
    6697 would never say "tunes."

    *tear*

    I specifically use that term now because of her.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • YieldInHiding
    YieldInHiding Posts: 1,841
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    I specifically use that term now because of her.

    PBM

    Awesome. I love ripping people when they're on other continents.
    No longer overwhelmed it seems so simple now.
  • BlkFlg1
    BlkFlg1 Posts: 156
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    I think we can evolve, but we shouldn't have to abandon our principles, our ethics, our morals. It seems that greed and an egotistical attitude are byproducts of our evolution.

    Why is "our way" (that of man) assumed to be the correct way?

    PBM


    right, its not! Im thinking of honoring the value of nature, but holding onto what we have learned. I look at it like this: human beings identified with only themselves way back (cavemen), then were bound to the tribe, then the nation (nationalism-1800's-1900's) and now finally, thank god the entire planet. we are finally opening up our perspective that "all is one", and we are not seperate from anything. but, way back when we just werent there yet in terms of our outlooks- we couldnt conceive of anything outside of ourselves.
    YIELD Fan Club Sergeant-At-Arms
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    BlkFlg wrote:
    we couldnt conceive of anything outside of ourselves.

    Sadly, this is still prevalent today...don't you think? ;)

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • YieldInHiding
    YieldInHiding Posts: 1,841
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    Sadly, this is still prevalent today...don't you think? ;)

    PBM

    Is this about me?

    No...?

    Then I've lost interest.

    ;)
    No longer overwhelmed it seems so simple now.
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    Our venture to the YIELD thread grew out of the Starbucks/iTunes Thread.

    I wonder when the new album will be sold by "The New AT&T"? ;)

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • YieldInHiding
    YieldInHiding Posts: 1,841
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    Our venture to the YIELD thread grew out of the Starbucks/iTunes Thread.

    I wonder when the new album will be sold by "The New AT&T"? ;)

    PBM

    It won't, but a PJ song will be on their next commercial instead of Oasis or whoever it is now.
    No longer overwhelmed it seems so simple now.
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    YieldInHiding wrote:
    It won't, but a PJ song will be on their next commercial instead of Oasis or whoever it is now.

    It's a fine line they're walking there...don't you think?

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • YieldInHiding
    YieldInHiding Posts: 1,841
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    It's a fine line they're walking there...don't you think?

    PBM

    At least they turned down Viagra.

    Poor Elvis. :(
    No longer overwhelmed it seems so simple now.
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    YieldInHiding wrote:
    At least they turned down Viagra.

    Sigh...those were the days.

    Remember that episode of Entourage where they want to brand the Vinnie Chase name? I imagine that's the kind of meeting Pearl Jam got a few years ago with Clive. :D

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    YieldInHiding wrote:
    At least they turned down Viagra.

    Poor Elvis. :(
    I always forget about the Viagra thing....can you imagine?????
    PBM, do you live in Michigan?
    Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
    And I don't feel right when you're gone away
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    TrixieCat wrote:
    PBM, do you live in Michigan?

    Not since '95. I said goodbye to the third worst city in America some time ago.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org

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