Michael Brown Shooting

JC29856

hedonist said:

imalive said:

When a cop tells you to do something, comply. Chances are, you won't get shot.

I know that within every scenario there are different variables, people, mindsets.

But yes...this makes much sense. Common sense.

Last year I got pulled over for expired tags. I was surprised when the officer told me to keep my hands in plain sight (didn't feel I was a threat), but fuck me if I didn't comply. Why wouldn't I?

Very polite and professional fellow, by the way.

these girls complied
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nation-and-world/okla-city-cop-ordered-stand-trial-sexual-assault-charges

so did this one
http://filmingcops.com/cop-points-gun-at-woman-rapes-her-at-gunpoint-after-she-stops-at-checkpoint-lawsuit/

Gern Blansten

Merkin Baller said:

Charles Barkley had an interesting interview with CNN.....

Careful though, it doesn't fit the narrative that all police officers are racist murderers.

Do we really have to argue extremes? No one on hear is saying that all cops are racist murderers.

Most of us are just questioning whether justice has truly been served.

hedonist

JC29856 said:

hedonist said:

I'm not sure how that ties into this particular clusterfuck.

During the Brown protests some people questioned why mine resistant vehicles were deployed on the streets, why high power military grade rifles were deployed against citizens protesting what they deemed as unjust.

Thanks. This is much more informative for me than random links and photos.

hedonist

JC29856 said:

hedonist said:

imalive said:

When a cop tells you to do something, comply. Chances are, you won't get shot.

I know that within every scenario there are different variables, people, mindsets.

But yes...this makes much sense. Common sense.

Last year I got pulled over for expired tags. I was surprised when the officer told me to keep my hands in plain sight (didn't feel I was a threat), but fuck me if I didn't comply. Why wouldn't I?

Very polite and professional fellow, by the way.

these girls complied
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nation-and-world/okla-city-cop-ordered-stand-trial-sexual-assault-charges

so did this one
http://filmingcops.com/cop-points-gun-at-woman-rapes-her-at-gunpoint-after-she-stops-at-checkpoint-lawsuit/

By the way, this is unnecessary. I think every person here with a reasonable IQ GETS that there are some fucked up police officers.

There are some fucked up people, period.

This shit you just posted, not getting its point here, especially in response to what I wrote.

dignin

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

muskydan said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

muskydan said:

That was a great movie and song, I would be honored. As I have said a few times already, the truth hurts, nobody ever wants to hear truth, especially in my business…all we want is the truth right??? Why is it that some people cannot handle opinions that are the complete opposite of others on here?? Isn't that what this country and PJ music is all about? I have been entertained daily by many posts on here.

Actually, I like your posts.

You and I should get together this weekend and have a few drinks. Then we can go out and hang out at Food for Less.

We can keep track of how many assholes pay with their link card.
Then drive away in their $30,000 car.

Hahaha

first drink in a bag is on me

Did you read about the 5 rascals in St. Louis who beat the Bosnian guy with hammers?
Beat him to death.

Was that a hate crime?
Hmmmm

and how come that crime gets nowhere near the attention as the police officer who was doing his job?

Hate crime or not, thats a major false equivalency, civilian on civilian crime is not the same as an incident involving an agent of the government paid to protect.
Fox news has been harping on this, riling their racist fan base, which is their prerogative, but the two cases are wholly unrelated and not worth comparing.

You are correct. They cannot be compared.

One is a senseless crime, while the other is an act of self defence where an unruly criminal attacked an armed officer of the law and met his end as a result.

I don't disagree with this... All the more reason not to race-rile over it, while being a hypocrite and condemning Jackson and Sharpton.

You must have me confused with someone else or were directing this at someone else. I have said nothing about Jackson and Sharpton.

Gern Blansten said:

Merkin Baller said:

Charles Barkley had an interesting interview with CNN.....

Careful though, it doesn't fit the narrative that all police officers are racist murderers.

Do we really have to argue extremes? No one on hear is saying that all cops are racist murderers.

Most of us are just questioning whether justice has truly been served.

I've noticed the "other side" has trouble not putting words in our mouth. Easier to put us on the "other side" and make this black and white. We either believe Wilson's version or that of the "thugs" who riot.

No grey area here on the AMT sometimes.

You either hate cops....or love them. With us, or against us. Some Bush era shit right there.

muskydan

JC29856 said:

Program 1033
It served two purposes for the ruling elite
1. Clears "equipment" from military so they can sell the US more better unnecessary "equipment"
2. Puts the "equipment" in local law enforcement hands to protect the ruling elite

Also benefits local law enforcement by giving them cool toys to play with.

Don't see much of this equipment in Chicago, but we sure can use it to fight our war on gangbangers. Can you do some research on how Chicago can get in on this free stuff??

JC29856

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muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

Program 1033
It served two purposes for the ruling elite
1. Clears "equipment" from military so they can sell the US more better unnecessary "equipment"
2. Puts the "equipment" in local law enforcement hands to protect the ruling elite

Also benefits local law enforcement by giving them cool toys to play with.

Don't see much of this equipment in Chicago, but we sure can use it to fight our war on gangbangers. Can you do some research on how Chicago can get in on this free stuff??

You're helping in winning the "war"! Chicago crime at 56 year low! Good job!

JC29856

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

Program 1033
It served two purposes for the ruling elite
1. Clears "equipment" from military so they can sell the US more better unnecessary "equipment"
2. Puts the "equipment" in local law enforcement hands to protect the ruling elite

Also benefits local law enforcement by giving them cool toys to play with.

Don't see much of this equipment in Chicago, but we sure can use it to fight our war on gangbangers. Can you do some research on how Chicago can get in on this free stuff??

by county
http://dig.abclocal.go.com/wls/documents/Mal-IL-inventory.pdf
http://dig.abclocal.go.com/wls/documents/IL inventory-weapons.pdf

must be working!

Last-12-Exit

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

muskydan said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

muskydan said:

That was a great movie and song, I would be honored. As I have said a few times already, the truth hurts, nobody ever wants to hear truth, especially in my business…all we want is the truth right??? Why is it that some people cannot handle opinions that are the complete opposite of others on here?? Isn't that what this country and PJ music is all about? I have been entertained daily by many posts on here.

Actually, I like your posts.

You and I should get together this weekend and have a few drinks. Then we can go out and hang out at Food for Less.

We can keep track of how many assholes pay with their link card.
Then drive away in their $30,000 car.

Hahaha

first drink in a bag is on me

Did you read about the 5 rascals in St. Louis who beat the Bosnian guy with hammers?
Beat him to death.

Was that a hate crime?
Hmmmm

and how come that crime gets nowhere near the attention as the police officer who was doing his job?

Hate crime or not, thats a major false equivalency, civilian on civilian crime is not the same as an incident involving an agent of the government paid to protect.
Fox news has been harping on this, riling their racist fan base, which is their prerogative, but the two cases are wholly unrelated and not worth comparing.

You are correct. They cannot be compared.

One is a senseless crime, while the other is an act of self defence where an unruly criminal attacked an armed officer of the law and met his end as a result.

I don't disagree with this... All the more reason not to race-rile over it, while being a hypocrite and condemning Jackson and Sharpton.

You must have me confused with someone else or were directing this at someone else. I have said nothing about Jackson and Sharpton.

Gern Blansten said:

Merkin Baller said:

Charles Barkley had an interesting interview with CNN.....

Careful though, it doesn't fit the narrative that all police officers are racist murderers.

Do we really have to argue extremes? No one on hear is saying that all cops are racist murderers.

Most of us are just questioning whether justice has truly been served.

I've noticed the "other side" has trouble not putting words in our mouth. Easier to put us on the "other side" and make this black and white. We either believe Wilson's version or that of the "thugs" who riot.

No grey area here on the AMT sometimes.

You either hate cops....or love them. With us, or against us. Some Bush era shit right there.

It's not Wilson against the criminals that looted Ferguson. For anybody to suggest that Wilson not being indicted is a good reason for what those idiots did to that town should be jailed along with those criminals.

If you want to make this a case of believing Wilson or not, I don't have a problem with that. But to say it's Wilson against the thugs is silly.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

muskydan said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

muskydan said:

That was a great movie and song, I would be honored. As I have said a few times already, the truth hurts, nobody ever wants to hear truth, especially in my business…all we want is the truth right??? Why is it that some people cannot handle opinions that are the complete opposite of others on here?? Isn't that what this country and PJ music is all about? I have been entertained daily by many posts on here.

Actually, I like your posts.

You and I should get together this weekend and have a few drinks. Then we can go out and hang out at Food for Less.

We can keep track of how many assholes pay with their link card.
Then drive away in their $30,000 car.

Hahaha

first drink in a bag is on me

Did you read about the 5 rascals in St. Louis who beat the Bosnian guy with hammers?
Beat him to death.

Was that a hate crime?
Hmmmm

and how come that crime gets nowhere near the attention as the police officer who was doing his job?

Hate crime or not, thats a major false equivalency, civilian on civilian crime is not the same as an incident involving an agent of the government paid to protect.
Fox news has been harping on this, riling their racist fan base, which is their prerogative, but the two cases are wholly unrelated and not worth comparing.

You are correct. They cannot be compared.

One is a senseless crime, while the other is an act of self defence where an unruly criminal attacked an armed officer of the law and met his end as a result.

I don't disagree with this... All the more reason not to race-rile over it, while being a hypocrite and condemning Jackson and Sharpton.

You must have me confused with someone else or were directing this at someone else. I have said nothing about Jackson and Sharpton.

Gern Blansten said:

Merkin Baller said:

Charles Barkley had an interesting interview with CNN.....

Careful though, it doesn't fit the narrative that all police officers are racist murderers.

Do we really have to argue extremes? No one on hear is saying that all cops are racist murderers.

Most of us are just questioning whether justice has truly been served.

I've noticed the "other side" has trouble not putting words in our mouth. Easier to put us on the "other side" and make this black and white. We either believe Wilson's version or that of the "thugs" who riot.

No grey area here on the AMT sometimes.

You either hate cops....or love them. With us, or against us. Some Bush era shit right there.

Well what is the point to all the random links and stories of police corruption being posted? Both sides to this discussion are guilty of jumping to extremes to make their case... so don't point fingers at one without looking at the other.

Somebody is trying to say something and I'm not getting the impression that it is, "Cops are awesome!"

rgambs

Godfather. said:

rgambs said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

muskydan said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

muskydan said:

That was a great movie and song, I would be honored. As I have said a few times already, the truth hurts, nobody ever wants to hear truth, especially in my business…all we want is the truth right??? Why is it that some people cannot handle opinions that are the complete opposite of others on here?? Isn't that what this country and PJ music is all about? I have been entertained daily by many posts on here.

Actually, I like your posts.

You and I should get together this weekend and have a few drinks. Then we can go out and hang out at Food for Less.

We can keep track of how many assholes pay with their link card.
Then drive away in their $30,000 car.

Hahaha

first drink in a bag is on me

Did you read about the 5 rascals in St. Louis who beat the Bosnian guy with hammers?
Beat him to death.

Was that a hate crime?
Hmmmm

and how come that crime gets nowhere near the attention as the police officer who was doing his job?

Hate crime or not, thats a major false equivalency, civilian on civilian crime is not the same as an incident involving an agent of the government paid to protect.
Fox news has been harping on this, riling their racist fan base, which is their prerogative, but the two cases are wholly unrelated and not worth comparing.

disagree.....it's people killing and people dying.

Godfather.

So by that logic is a US soldier killing an Iraqi the same? Or is it different because they represent the government?

JC29856

imalive said:

When a cop tells you to do something, comply. Chances are, you won't get shot.

This was the post I thought I quoted in a previous post. Apologies.

rgambs

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

muskydan said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

muskydan said:

That was a great movie and song, I would be honored. As I have said a few times already, the truth hurts, nobody ever wants to hear truth, especially in my business…all we want is the truth right??? Why is it that some people cannot handle opinions that are the complete opposite of others on here?? Isn't that what this country and PJ music is all about? I have been entertained daily by many posts on here.

Actually, I like your posts.

You and I should get together this weekend and have a few drinks. Then we can go out and hang out at Food for Less.

We can keep track of how many assholes pay with their link card.
Then drive away in their $30,000 car.

Hahaha

first drink in a bag is on me

Did you read about the 5 rascals in St. Louis who beat the Bosnian guy with hammers?
Beat him to death.

Was that a hate crime?
Hmmmm

and how come that crime gets nowhere near the attention as the police officer who was doing his job?

Hate crime or not, thats a major false equivalency, civilian on civilian crime is not the same as an incident involving an agent of the government paid to protect.
Fox news has been harping on this, riling their racist fan base, which is their prerogative, but the two cases are wholly unrelated and not worth comparing.

You are correct. They cannot be compared.

One is a senseless crime, while the other is an act of self defence where an unruly criminal attacked an armed officer of the law and met his end as a result.

I don't disagree with this... All the more reason not to race-rile over it, while being a hypocrite and condemning Jackson and Sharpton.

You must have me confused with someone else or were directing this at someone else. I have said nothing about Jackson and Sharpton.

Sorry, the second part was directed at speedy, who trotted out that sad line that was generated by fox news.

callen

Last-12-Exit said:

Again, I fail to see where any of the brown supporters have put any of the blame on Brown. You've blamed the police, Darren Wilson, poverty, but not one of you guys have stood up and said "ya know, had brown just listened to this piece of shit cop, this wouldn't have happened."

If you are explaining this to your 8 year old child, what would the moral of your story be? Don't be black in st. Louis? Or don't be a dick when a cop tells you to move to the sidewalk?

The haves have not a fucking clue.

JC29856

I've read the word random a few times on the last couple of pages....scary version, I don't do random!

callen

JimmyV said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Again, I fail to see where any of the brown supporters have put any of the blame on Brown. You've blamed the police, Darren Wilson, poverty, but not one of you guys have stood up and said "ya know, had brown just listened to this piece of shit cop, this wouldn't have happened."

If you are explaining this to your 8 year old child, what would the moral of your story be? Don't be black in st. Louis? Or don't be a dick when a cop tells you to move to the sidewalk?

Don't forget "Don't rob a convenience store."

The haves have not a fucking clue.

callen

Godfather. said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Again, I fail to see where any of the brown supporters have put any of the blame on Brown. You've blamed the police, Darren Wilson, poverty, but not one of you guys have stood up and said "ya know, had brown just listened to this piece of shit cop, this wouldn't have happened."

If you are explaining this to your 8 year old child, what would the moral of your story be? Don't be black in st. Louis? Or don't be a dick when a cop tells you to move to the sidewalk?

what ???? there's no room for common sense on the train...stop it ! )

Godfather.

The haves have not a fucking clue.

callen

You Haves are the product of your environment. As was mike Brown. Your not special with special reasoning powers your just fucking lucky.

So now rather than bash the ignorance and throw out more hate do something positive. Be nice to your fellow human.

Whites have no clue.

Gern Blansten

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/eric-garner-grand-jury-no-indictment

Does the "if he would have done what the cop told him he would be alive" argument apply to this case as well?

Cliffy6745

HAHAHAHAHA. America

Where a police officer can break his profession's policies, choke someone to death on video, the death is ruled a homicide and he is not be taken to trail.

Only in America, folks.