they get fixated on something and run it into the ground. this should have been over 5 committees ago, but it wasn't.
it is like geraldo rivera looking inside al capone's vault. sooner or later the "continue on" mentality is an embarrassment.
but then, that party at this point is incapable of embarrassment.
Can you "run it into the ground" for us why you think Hillary will be such a great POTUS?
i am sure you will run it into the ground how terrible she will be, before she even gets sworn in.
No not at all. Dems run it into the ground how terrible Trump will be. Never once stating why and how great Hillary will be. So give me some truth and tell us how great she will be.
why don't you never leave?
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
they get fixated on something and run it into the ground. this should have been over 5 committees ago, but it wasn't.
it is like geraldo rivera looking inside al capone's vault. sooner or later the "continue on" mentality is an embarrassment.
but then, that party at this point is incapable of embarrassment.
Can you "run it into the ground" for us why you think Hillary will be such a great POTUS?
i am sure you will run it into the ground how terrible she will be, before she even gets sworn in.
No not at all. Dems run it into the ground how terrible Trump will be. Never once stating why and how great Hillary will be. So give me some truth and tell us how great she will be.
find your own truth. most likely i would type it all out and you would not respond or you would minimize it.
so why bother? it isn't worth the effort.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
they get fixated on something and run it into the ground. this should have been over 5 committees ago, but it wasn't.
it is like geraldo rivera looking inside al capone's vault. sooner or later the "continue on" mentality is an embarrassment.
but then, that party at this point is incapable of embarrassment.
Can you "run it into the ground" for us why you think Hillary will be such a great POTUS?
i am sure you will run it into the ground how terrible she will be, before she even gets sworn in.
No not at all. Dems run it into the ground how terrible Trump will be. Never once stating why and how great Hillary will be. So give me some truth and tell us how great she will be.
find your own truth. most likely i would type it all out and you would not respond or you would minimize it.
so why bother? it isn't worth the effort.
Is this how Hillary supporters think? Find your own truth?
they get fixated on something and run it into the ground. this should have been over 5 committees ago, but it wasn't.
it is like geraldo rivera looking inside al capone's vault. sooner or later the "continue on" mentality is an embarrassment.
but then, that party at this point is incapable of embarrassment.
Can you "run it into the ground" for us why you think Hillary will be such a great POTUS?
i am sure you will run it into the ground how terrible she will be, before she even gets sworn in.
No not at all. Dems run it into the ground how terrible Trump will be. Never once stating why and how great Hillary will be. So give me some truth and tell us how great she will be.
by the way, it is not just dems "running it into the ground how terrible trump will be".
you have people boycotting the gop convention. people leaving the party. george will, the gop mouthpiece left the party. all of these people, inside his own party, are leaving the gop because of trump.
don't forget about the entire dump trump movement trying to have gop delegates "vote their conscience" and potentially pick someone else to undermine trump.
sounds to me like the party thinks he will be terrible too.
trump can't even get a real republican politician to go to his convention. so far he has mike tyson, mike ditka, and sarah palin.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
they get fixated on something and run it into the ground. this should have been over 5 committees ago, but it wasn't.
it is like geraldo rivera looking inside al capone's vault. sooner or later the "continue on" mentality is an embarrassment.
but then, that party at this point is incapable of embarrassment.
Can you "run it into the ground" for us why you think Hillary will be such a great POTUS?
i am sure you will run it into the ground how terrible she will be, before she even gets sworn in.
No not at all. Dems run it into the ground how terrible Trump will be. Never once stating why and how great Hillary will be. So give me some truth and tell us how great she will be.
but this thread is about benghazi.
i suppose it is about time that i direct you to talk about things related to thread topic, as i have seen you do dozens of times.
so let's talk about his benghazi committee and how it just basically gave clinton the keys to the white house.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
they get fixated on something and run it into the ground. this should have been over 5 committees ago, but it wasn't.
it is like geraldo rivera looking inside al capone's vault. sooner or later the "continue on" mentality is an embarrassment.
but then, that party at this point is incapable of embarrassment.
Can you "run it into the ground" for us why you think Hillary will be such a great POTUS?
i am sure you will run it into the ground how terrible she will be, before she even gets sworn in.
No not at all. Dems run it into the ground how terrible Trump will be. Never once stating why and how great Hillary will be. So give me some truth and tell us how great she will be.
but this thread is about benghazi.
i suppose it is about time that i direct you to talk about things related to thread topic, as i have seen you do dozens of times.
so let's talk about his benghazi committee and how it just basically gave clinton the keys to the white house.
maybe it is because people don't want to hear someone telling the entire world how great they are and how great they are going to be and how great things are going to be and how we will get so sick of winning.
that is not a campaign strategy. that is not policy strategy. that is what is reads like. a big steaming pile of good ol' american bull crap.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
Scott Baio and Kevin Sorbo. Sorbo said recently that Jesus would vote for him.
trump loves the D list,
What is funny is that if any of these "D listers" supported Hillary not a word would be spoken.
Pretty sure there are plenty of d listers that support Hillary. Difference is Hillary doesn't need them to speak at her convention because she has no one else
By Steve Benen With the Republicans’ Benghazi Committee uncovering no meaningful new information, and with the panel’s investigation effectively exonerating Hillary Clinton, right-wing conspiracy theorists this week had no choice but to give up and find a new hobby.
No, I’m just kidding. They’re actually redirecting their ire towards Benghazi Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.).
Just yesterday, I predicted that some conservatives would turn on Gowdy, in whom they’d invested so much hope. The far-right South Carolinian was supposed to bury, not exonerate, Hillary Clinton, I wrote, and his inability to deliver a useful campaign weapon will likely be seen as both a failure and a betrayal.
A few hours later, far-right radio personality Michael Savage told his audience, “Trey Gowdy should be impeached for wasting my time! He promised us a lot! Remember?” (Members of Congress can be expelled, but not impeached, under the U.S. Constitution.)
Of course, Savage isn’t alone. The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank explained today that “conspiracy-minded” conservatives are blaming Gowdy “for failing to deliver the goods.” There was a meeting yesterday of the “Citizens’ Commission on Benghazi,” where members agreed the far-right South Carolinian let them down by failing to confirm their beliefs. A woman in the crowd floated a new Benghazi conspiracy. “Has someone in the GOP leadership gotten their fingers involved in watering down some of this to benefit Secretary Clinton?” she asked. Nobody rebutted this idea.
Herein lies a lesson for Republicans who are perpetually trying to appease the far right: It’s a fool’s errand. They went to the tea party – and now they’re taking Donald Trump to the prom. Likewise, then-House Speaker John Boehner named the Benghazi committee because activists were dissatisfied that seven previous congressional investigations had failed to uncover major scandal material. Now an eighth has produced more of the same – and the agitators are as agitated as ever. There’s a certain twisted logic to this. The unhinged right starts with the ideologically satisfying answer – President Obama and Hillary Clinton are guilty of horrible Benghazi-related wrongdoing – and then works backwards, looking for “proof” that matches the conclusion. When their ostensible allies fail to tell these activists what they want to hear, they could reevaluate their bogus assumptions, but it’s vastly easier to believe Republicans have let them down.
Wait, it gets worse.
As Milbank reported, a former Ted Cruz adviser complained yesterday that Gowdy “did not draw a connection between the dots.” And why not? According to retired Gen. Thomas McInerney, the Benghazi Committee chairman “had his reasons – political” for holding back.
McInerney “speculated that congressional leadership had approved ‘black operations’ to run weapons from Benghazi to Islamic State forces in Syria.”
This is what it’s come to: Benghazi conspiracy theorists are so creative, and so unmoved by evidence or reason, that they can convince themselves that congressional Republicans are in on the conspiracy.
As Donald Trump and his allies try to incorporate ridiculous Benghazi rhetoric into their 2016 platform, keep in mind who his unhinged allies are.
The explosive charge against Wales-based Blue Mountain Group comes from several sources, including an independent security specialist who has implemented training programs at U.S. Consulates around the world, including in Benghazi, where he trained a local militia that preceded Blue Mountain. The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Blue Mountain used local newspaper ads to assemble a team of 20 guards, many of whom had terror ties, after securing a $9.2 million annual contract.
“The guards who were hired were locals who were part of the Ansar al-Sharia and Al Qaeda groups operating in Benghazi,” said the source, whose assignment in Benghazi had ended in November 2011. “Whoever approved contracts at the State Department hired Blue Mountain Group and then allowed Blue Mountain Group to hire local Libyans who were not vetted.”
Many were members of the Libyan government-financed February 17th Martyrs Brigade, an Islamist militia that had previously guarded Americans before being replaced by Blue Mountain.
its not so much Hillary but the fact that we used the Blue Mountain Group for our security without proper vetting says a lot about our state department....and they want to bring refugees over here with that vetting process? no thank you
as far as the Reagan meme i was around 5 years old when he was president, i couldn't comment much on those incidents
The explosive charge against Wales-based Blue Mountain Group comes from several sources, including an independent security specialist who has implemented training programs at U.S. Consulates around the world, including in Benghazi, where he trained a local militia that preceded Blue Mountain. The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Blue Mountain used local newspaper ads to assemble a team of 20 guards, many of whom had terror ties, after securing a $9.2 million annual contract.
“The guards who were hired were locals who were part of the Ansar al-Sharia and Al Qaeda groups operating in Benghazi,” said the source, whose assignment in Benghazi had ended in November 2011. “Whoever approved contracts at the State Department hired Blue Mountain Group and then allowed Blue Mountain Group to hire local Libyans who were not vetted.”
Many were members of the Libyan government-financed February 17th Martyrs Brigade, an Islamist militia that had previously guarded Americans before being replaced by Blue Mountain.
Unreal...
I don't give much credibility to anything after that phrase... Journalists used to do the same but now it's a "repeat whatever shit comes out of Giuliani's mouth" kind of environment.
$7.8 million, two and a half years, 322,000 words.
More time spent on the Benghazi "investigation" than they did on 9/11. Or on Hurricane Katrina, the Iran-Contra affair, the Kennedy assassination, and Pearl Harbor. Unlike all of the other investigations mentioned, came up with... nothing. Nothing actionable, nothing unknown, nothing that would justify the time and money spent on this embarrassing spectacle of unchecked overreach.
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its not so much Hillary but the fact that we used the Blue Mountain Group for our security without proper vetting says a lot about our state department....and they want to bring refugees over here with that vetting process? no thank you
as far as the Reagan meme i was around 5 years old when he was president, i couldn't comment much on those incidents
Just wondering what your thoughts were when it came to Halliburton and the department of homeland security during the Iraq war, if your concern lies with overseas security and the State department? If you're bothered by Benghazi, you must have absolutely flipped out over Halliburton and GW's administration!
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$7.8 million, two and a half years, 322,000 words.
More time spent on the Benghazi "investigation" than they did on 9/11. Or on Hurricane Katrina, the Iran-Contra affair, the Kennedy assassination, and Pearl Harbor. Unlike all of the other investigations mentioned, came up with... nothing. Nothing actionable, nothing unknown, nothing that would justify the time and money spent on this embarrassing spectacle of unchecked overreach.
Hurricane Katrina, the birth of fake news. Remember the reports of gun fire aimed at the rescuers? Remember the "evacuees"? Hehehe
$7.8 million, two and a half years, 322,000 words.
More time spent on the Benghazi "investigation" than they did on 9/11. Or on Hurricane Katrina, the Iran-Contra affair, the Kennedy assassination, and Pearl Harbor. Unlike all of the other investigations mentioned, came up with... nothing. Nothing actionable, nothing unknown, nothing that would justify the time and money spent on this embarrassing spectacle of unchecked overreach.
Hurricane Katrina, the birth of fake news. Remember the reports of gun fire aimed at the rescuers? Remember the "evacuees"? Hehehe
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
most likely i would type it all out and you would not respond or you would minimize it.
so why bother? it isn't worth the effort.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Find your own truth?
you have people boycotting the gop convention. people leaving the party. george will, the gop mouthpiece left the party. all of these people, inside his own party, are leaving the gop because of trump.
don't forget about the entire dump trump movement trying to have gop delegates "vote their conscience" and potentially pick someone else to undermine trump.
sounds to me like the party thinks he will be terrible too.
trump can't even get a real republican politician to go to his convention. so far he has mike tyson, mike ditka, and sarah palin.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
i suppose it is about time that i direct you to talk about things related to thread topic, as i have seen you do dozens of times.
so let's talk about his benghazi committee and how it just basically gave clinton the keys to the white house.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
that is not a campaign strategy. that is not policy strategy. that is what is reads like. a big steaming pile of good ol' american bull crap.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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$600 gator shoes. rolex watch worth more than you made last year.
i am the 5 time bankrupted, limosine ridin, lear jet flyin' kiss stealin, wheelin and dealin, long drivin son of a gun WOOO!!!"
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
it sounds as if gowdy is wanting to continue to interview people about this. i thought the committee was over??
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
With the Republicans’ Benghazi Committee uncovering no meaningful new information, and with the panel’s investigation effectively exonerating Hillary Clinton, right-wing conspiracy theorists this week had no choice but to give up and find a new hobby.
No, I’m just kidding. They’re actually redirecting their ire towards Benghazi Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.).
Just yesterday, I predicted that some conservatives would turn on Gowdy, in whom they’d invested so much hope. The far-right South Carolinian was supposed to bury, not exonerate, Hillary Clinton, I wrote, and his inability to deliver a useful campaign weapon will likely be seen as both a failure and a betrayal.
A few hours later, far-right radio personality Michael Savage told his audience, “Trey Gowdy should be impeached for wasting my time! He promised us a lot! Remember?” (Members of Congress can be expelled, but not impeached, under the U.S. Constitution.)
Of course, Savage isn’t alone. The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank explained today that “conspiracy-minded” conservatives are blaming Gowdy “for failing to deliver the goods.” There was a meeting yesterday of the “Citizens’ Commission on Benghazi,” where members agreed the far-right South Carolinian let them down by failing to confirm their beliefs.
A woman in the crowd floated a new Benghazi conspiracy. “Has someone in the GOP leadership gotten their fingers involved in watering down some of this to benefit Secretary Clinton?” she asked. Nobody rebutted this idea.
Herein lies a lesson for Republicans who are perpetually trying to appease the far right: It’s a fool’s errand. They went to the tea party – and now they’re taking Donald Trump to the prom. Likewise, then-House Speaker John Boehner named the Benghazi committee because activists were dissatisfied that seven previous congressional investigations had failed to uncover major scandal material. Now an eighth has produced more of the same – and the agitators are as agitated as ever.
There’s a certain twisted logic to this. The unhinged right starts with the ideologically satisfying answer – President Obama and Hillary Clinton are guilty of horrible Benghazi-related wrongdoing – and then works backwards, looking for “proof” that matches the conclusion. When their ostensible allies fail to tell these activists what they want to hear, they could reevaluate their bogus assumptions, but it’s vastly easier to believe Republicans have let them down.
Wait, it gets worse.
As Milbank reported, a former Ted Cruz adviser complained yesterday that Gowdy “did not draw a connection between the dots.” And why not? According to retired Gen. Thomas McInerney, the Benghazi Committee chairman “had his reasons – political” for holding back.
McInerney “speculated that congressional leadership had approved ‘black operations’ to run weapons from Benghazi to Islamic State forces in Syria.”
This is what it’s come to: Benghazi conspiracy theorists are so creative, and so unmoved by evidence or reason, that they can convince themselves that congressional Republicans are in on the conspiracy.
As Donald Trump and his allies try to incorporate ridiculous Benghazi rhetoric into their 2016 platform, keep in mind who his unhinged allies are.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/11/07/benghazi-guards-turned-on-us-diplomats-in-2012-attack-sources-say.html
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“The guards who were hired were locals who were part of the Ansar al-Sharia and Al Qaeda groups operating in Benghazi,” said the source, whose assignment in Benghazi had ended in November 2011. “Whoever approved contracts at the State Department hired Blue Mountain Group and then allowed Blue Mountain Group to hire local Libyans who were not vetted.”
Many were members of the Libyan government-financed February 17th Martyrs Brigade, an Islamist militia that had previously guarded Americans before being replaced by Blue Mountain.
Unreal...
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
as far as the Reagan meme i was around 5 years old when he was president, i couldn't comment much on those incidents
$7.8 million, two and a half years, 322,000 words.
More time spent on the Benghazi "investigation" than they did on 9/11. Or on Hurricane Katrina, the Iran-Contra affair, the Kennedy assassination, and Pearl Harbor. Unlike all of the other investigations mentioned, came up with... nothing. Nothing actionable, nothing unknown, nothing that would justify the time and money spent on this embarrassing spectacle of unchecked overreach.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."