Police abuse

Gern Blansten

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

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josevolution said:

and who ever here is saying she punched him is beyond blind ive watched the video she was able to slide her hand across his neck but that was no punch ......Plus if that was my daughter im challenging this cop to a fight we can go to a gym and fight in a ring no weapons just me & him thats how im settling this

But don't forget to stop by the school and apologize for your daughter's brutal behaviour.

Ensure them that it won't be happening again and advise them of the steps you are prepared to take so that it doesn't.

yeah that was brutal how she wouldn't put her phone away...bloodthirsty

You people... geezuz, man.

Just render authority toothless? Why have any rules at all? If one can snub a school rule... why can't all?

It wasn't so much as her refusing to put her phone away as it was essentially telling all to go f**k themselves when they tried to deal with her belligerent attitude.

I'm assuming you think that behaviour is real cool, man. Others, such as myself, don't think it's way cool.

not cool at all....just not deserving of an assault by an adult male officer

I'm not thinking that's 'assault'.

He did try and dump her out of the desk and perhaps excessively, but to call this an 'assault' is a stretch in my mind.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/black-teen-attacked-by-south-carolina-cop-has-a-cast-on-her-arm-and-neck-and-back-injuries/

"State Rep. Todd Rutherford (D-Columbia) told WLTX-TV the 16-year-old girl suffered arm, neck and back injuries when Fields grabbed her by the throat and threw her to the ground after the teen refused to hand over her cell phone to a teacher."

That's called assault.

Edit: Let's say you were sitting in a restaurant and someone came up to you and did what the officer did to the girl. Would that be assault?

Depends.

Am I sitting there minding my own business? Or am I being a general nuisance- bothering everyone as they are trying to eat their meals and defying management and their requests to leave the establishment?

Because in scenario number 2... that would be 'deserved' (not 'assault').

* Not to mention the fact that after being rightfully requested to leave... I would be a trespasser refusing to comply.

This is so hilarious I don't know what to say.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Gern Blansten said:

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Gern Blansten said:

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Gern Blansten said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Gern Blansten said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

josevolution said:

and who ever here is saying she punched him is beyond blind ive watched the video she was able to slide her hand across his neck but that was no punch ......Plus if that was my daughter im challenging this cop to a fight we can go to a gym and fight in a ring no weapons just me & him thats how im settling this

But don't forget to stop by the school and apologize for your daughter's brutal behaviour.

Ensure them that it won't be happening again and advise them of the steps you are prepared to take so that it doesn't.

yeah that was brutal how she wouldn't put her phone away...bloodthirsty

You people... geezuz, man.

Just render authority toothless? Why have any rules at all? If one can snub a school rule... why can't all?

It wasn't so much as her refusing to put her phone away as it was essentially telling all to go f**k themselves when they tried to deal with her belligerent attitude.

I'm assuming you think that behaviour is real cool, man. Others, such as myself, don't think it's way cool.

not cool at all....just not deserving of an assault by an adult male officer

I'm not thinking that's 'assault'.

He did try and dump her out of the desk and perhaps excessively, but to call this an 'assault' is a stretch in my mind.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/black-teen-attacked-by-south-carolina-cop-has-a-cast-on-her-arm-and-neck-and-back-injuries/

"State Rep. Todd Rutherford (D-Columbia) told WLTX-TV the 16-year-old girl suffered arm, neck and back injuries when Fields grabbed her by the throat and threw her to the ground after the teen refused to hand over her cell phone to a teacher."

That's called assault.

Edit: Let's say you were sitting in a restaurant and someone came up to you and did what the officer did to the girl. Would that be assault?

Depends.

Am I sitting there minding my own business? Or am I being a general nuisance- bothering everyone as they are trying to eat their meals and defying management and their requests to leave the establishment?

Because in scenario number 2... that would be 'deserved' (not 'assault').

* Not to mention the fact that after being rightfully requested to leave... I would be a trespasser refusing to comply.

This is so hilarious I don't know what to say.

Is it? Really hilarious?

I suppose so I guess?

rr165892

Maybe she wants this outcome.She and her family can exploit it,say it's a rascist cop,get publicity and sue.Its all the rage now.
Cops are all rascist pigs and all the people from love able big mike,to the traffic stop angel in Texas to this honor student are just innocently minding their own Buisness.Blah,blah.Same old shit.
If you guys cried for accountability of actions as much as you defend the idiots we might get somewhere with this debate.
Would any of this had happened if the student listened to the first 3-4 requests to leave the classroom? NO.so what is the issue here.It couldn't be the poor cherubs fault could it.Fuckin joke.

jeffbr

rr165892 said:

Maybe she wants this outcome.She and her family can exploit it,say it's a rascist cop,get publicity and sue.Its all the rage now.
Cops are all rascist pigs and all the people from love able big mike,to the traffic stop angel in Texas to this honor student are just innocently minding their own Buisness.Blah,blah.Same old shit.
If you guys cried for accountability of actions as much as you defend the idiots we might get somewhere with this debate.
Would any of this had happened if the student listened to the first 3-4 requests to leave the classroom? NO.so what is the issue here.It couldn't be the poor cherubs fault could it.Fuckin joke.

Totally agree with you about accountability, RR. We're all quick to call for accountability with the cop, and rightly so, especially since he's the authority figure, and the adult. But where is the cry for accountability in regards to the stupid girl? The cops actions were a direct result of her actions. I believe the cop escalated this beyond where it needed to go, but understand that patience was running thin. What I don't understand is why the stupid girl hasn't been vilified for being an idiot, unless we're all just assuming that all high-school kids are idiots. She doesn't get to play the victim card with me. She was a participant in the events just as the cop was. Comply with the teacher's numerous requests, and the cop wouldn't have even been called in. Comply with the cop's request and it doesn't escalate beyond him showing up to the classroom. She had plenty of opportunity to change the outcome with a simple gesture of putting down her phone. She chose to involve police. She chose to take it beyond a verbal discussion. She needs to partly own the results of her actions, just as the cop is currently being punished for his. In this case the victims were the other students whose education was being disrupted by the choices of this stupid girl.

polaris_x

I've always said race relations was a huge problem in the US ... something that people would prefer to sweep under the rug than to actually deal with it ... but this is NOT a race issue unless there is proof that this cop acted that way because she was black ... i'm gonna assume a non-black girl would have gotten the same treatment that day ...

for sure the take down was excessive in this case no matter what she did ... that is unless she assaults him first as some have suggested ...

either way - i'd like to see this girl suspended at least 2 weeks

Gern Blansten

rr165892 said:

Maybe she wants this outcome.She and her family can exploit it,say it's a rascist cop,get publicity and sue.Its all the rage now.
Cops are all rascist pigs and all the people from love able big mike,to the traffic stop angel in Texas to this honor student are just innocently minding their own Buisness.Blah,blah.Same old shit.
If you guys cried for accountability of actions as much as you defend the idiots we might get somewhere with this debate.
Would any of this had happened if the student listened to the first 3-4 requests to leave the classroom? NO.so what is the issue here.It couldn't be the poor cherubs fault could it.Fuckin joke.

You didn't read the story? She was recently orphaned so there isn't much family involved.

pjhawks

Gern Blansten said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Gern Blansten said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Gern Blansten said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

josevolution said:

and who ever here is saying she punched him is beyond blind ive watched the video she was able to slide her hand across his neck but that was no punch ......Plus if that was my daughter im challenging this cop to a fight we can go to a gym and fight in a ring no weapons just me & him thats how im settling this

But don't forget to stop by the school and apologize for your daughter's brutal behaviour.

Ensure them that it won't be happening again and advise them of the steps you are prepared to take so that it doesn't.

yeah that was brutal how she wouldn't put her phone away...bloodthirsty

You people... geezuz, man.

Just render authority toothless? Why have any rules at all? If one can snub a school rule... why can't all?

It wasn't so much as her refusing to put her phone away as it was essentially telling all to go f**k themselves when they tried to deal with her belligerent attitude.

I'm assuming you think that behaviour is real cool, man. Others, such as myself, don't think it's way cool.

not cool at all....just not deserving of an assault by an adult male officer

I'm not thinking that's 'assault'.

He did try and dump her out of the desk and perhaps excessively, but to call this an 'assault' is a stretch in my mind.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/black-teen-attacked-by-south-carolina-cop-has-a-cast-on-her-arm-and-neck-and-back-injuries/

"State Rep. Todd Rutherford (D-Columbia) told WLTX-TV the 16-year-old girl suffered arm, neck and back injuries when Fields grabbed her by the throat and threw her to the ground after the teen refused to hand over her cell phone to a teacher."

That's called assault.

Edit: Let's say you were sitting in a restaurant and someone came up to you and did what the officer did to the girl. Would that be assault?

well the sheriff reported she had no injuries after the altercation. then she went to the state rep who happens to be a high priced lawyer...now she has injuries. interesting. and recently an orphan as stated above but now has a high priced state rep lawyer. again interesting.

Gern Blansten

pjhawks said:

Gern Blansten said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Gern Blansten said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Gern Blansten said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

josevolution said:

and who ever here is saying she punched him is beyond blind ive watched the video she was able to slide her hand across his neck but that was no punch ......Plus if that was my daughter im challenging this cop to a fight we can go to a gym and fight in a ring no weapons just me & him thats how im settling this

But don't forget to stop by the school and apologize for your daughter's brutal behaviour.

Ensure them that it won't be happening again and advise them of the steps you are prepared to take so that it doesn't.

yeah that was brutal how she wouldn't put her phone away...bloodthirsty

You people... geezuz, man.

Just render authority toothless? Why have any rules at all? If one can snub a school rule... why can't all?

It wasn't so much as her refusing to put her phone away as it was essentially telling all to go f**k themselves when they tried to deal with her belligerent attitude.

I'm assuming you think that behaviour is real cool, man. Others, such as myself, don't think it's way cool.

not cool at all....just not deserving of an assault by an adult male officer

I'm not thinking that's 'assault'.

He did try and dump her out of the desk and perhaps excessively, but to call this an 'assault' is a stretch in my mind.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/black-teen-attacked-by-south-carolina-cop-has-a-cast-on-her-arm-and-neck-and-back-injuries/

"State Rep. Todd Rutherford (D-Columbia) told WLTX-TV the 16-year-old girl suffered arm, neck and back injuries when Fields grabbed her by the throat and threw her to the ground after the teen refused to hand over her cell phone to a teacher."

That's called assault.

Edit: Let's say you were sitting in a restaurant and someone came up to you and did what the officer did to the girl. Would that be assault?

well the sheriff reported she had no injuries after the altercation. then she went to the state rep who happens to be a high priced lawyer...now she has injuries. interesting. and recently an orphan as stated above but now has a high priced state rep lawyer. again interesting.

actually he said "to my knowledge" that she had no injuries....you've seen the video right? Do injuries seem that unbelievable?

The officer has a history of being sued you know?

callen

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Gern Blansten said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

josevolution said:

and who ever here is saying she punched him is beyond blind ive watched the video she was able to slide her hand across his neck but that was no punch ......Plus if that was my daughter im challenging this cop to a fight we can go to a gym and fight in a ring no weapons just me & him thats how im settling this

But don't forget to stop by the school and apologize for your daughter's brutal behaviour.

Ensure them that it won't be happening again and advise them of the steps you are prepared to take so that it doesn't.

yeah that was brutal how she wouldn't put her phone away...bloodthirsty

You people... geezuz, man.

Just render authority toothless? Why have any rules at all? If one can snub a school rule... why can't all?

It wasn't so much as her refusing to put her phone away as it was essentially telling all to go f**k themselves when they tried to deal with her belligerent attitude.

I'm assuming you think that behaviour is real cool, man. Others, such as myself, don't think it's way cool.

No one said any if this.

callen

jeffbr said:

rr165892 said:

Maybe she wants this outcome.She and her family can exploit it,say it's a rascist cop,get publicity and sue.Its all the rage now.
Cops are all rascist pigs and all the people from love able big mike,to the traffic stop angel in Texas to this honor student are just innocently minding their own Buisness.Blah,blah.Same old shit.
If you guys cried for accountability of actions as much as you defend the idiots we might get somewhere with this debate.
Would any of this had happened if the student listened to the first 3-4 requests to leave the classroom? NO.so what is the issue here.It couldn't be the poor cherubs fault could it.Fuckin joke.

Totally agree with you about accountability, RR. We're all quick to call for accountability with the cop, and rightly so, especially since he's the authority figure, and the adult. But where is the cry for accountability in regards to the stupid girl? The cops actions were a direct result of her actions. I believe the cop escalated this beyond where it needed to go, but understand that patience was running thin. What I don't understand is why the stupid girl hasn't been vilified for being an idiot, unless we're all just assuming that all high-school kids are idiots. She doesn't get to play the victim card with me. She was a participant in the events just as the cop was. Comply with the teacher's numerous requests, and the cop wouldn't have even been called in. Comply with the cop's request and it doesn't escalate beyond him showing up to the classroom. She had plenty of opportunity to change the outcome with a simple gesture of putting down her phone. She chose to involve police. She chose to take it beyond a verbal discussion. She needs to partly own the results of her actions, just as the cop is currently being punished for his. In this case the victims were the other students whose education was being disrupted by the choices of this stupid girl.

Because she's an adolescent girl!!!! Accountability in the freakin adults that should know how to handle teens without body slamming them. Jeese.

jeffbr

callen said:

jeffbr said:

rr165892 said:

Maybe she wants this outcome.She and her family can exploit it,say it's a rascist cop,get publicity and sue.Its all the rage now.
Cops are all rascist pigs and all the people from love able big mike,to the traffic stop angel in Texas to this honor student are just innocently minding their own Buisness.Blah,blah.Same old shit.
If you guys cried for accountability of actions as much as you defend the idiots we might get somewhere with this debate.
Would any of this had happened if the student listened to the first 3-4 requests to leave the classroom? NO.so what is the issue here.It couldn't be the poor cherubs fault could it.Fuckin joke.

Totally agree with you about accountability, RR. We're all quick to call for accountability with the cop, and rightly so, especially since he's the authority figure, and the adult. But where is the cry for accountability in regards to the stupid girl? The cops actions were a direct result of her actions. I believe the cop escalated this beyond where it needed to go, but understand that patience was running thin. What I don't understand is why the stupid girl hasn't been vilified for being an idiot, unless we're all just assuming that all high-school kids are idiots. She doesn't get to play the victim card with me. She was a participant in the events just as the cop was. Comply with the teacher's numerous requests, and the cop wouldn't have even been called in. Comply with the cop's request and it doesn't escalate beyond him showing up to the classroom. She had plenty of opportunity to change the outcome with a simple gesture of putting down her phone. She chose to involve police. She chose to take it beyond a verbal discussion. She needs to partly own the results of her actions, just as the cop is currently being punished for his. In this case the victims were the other students whose education was being disrupted by the choices of this stupid girl.

Because she's an adolescent girl!!!! Accountability in the freakin adults that should know how to handle teens without body slamming them. Jeese.

So you wouldn't demand or expect accountability from a high-school aged kid? Wow. I said that the cop should be held accountable. And he's been fired, so he was. I also said that the girl should be held accountable. She isn't 5 years old. As far as I know she doesn't have any limiting mental or cognitive issues. She would likely be tried as an adult if she killed somebody. So why can't we point out that she has some culpability here?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

callen said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Gern Blansten said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

josevolution said:

and who ever here is saying she punched him is beyond blind ive watched the video she was able to slide her hand across his neck but that was no punch ......Plus if that was my daughter im challenging this cop to a fight we can go to a gym and fight in a ring no weapons just me & him thats how im settling this

But don't forget to stop by the school and apologize for your daughter's brutal behaviour.

Ensure them that it won't be happening again and advise them of the steps you are prepared to take so that it doesn't.

yeah that was brutal how she wouldn't put her phone away...bloodthirsty

You people... geezuz, man.

Just render authority toothless? Why have any rules at all? If one can snub a school rule... why can't all?

It wasn't so much as her refusing to put her phone away as it was essentially telling all to go f**k themselves when they tried to deal with her belligerent attitude.

I'm assuming you think that behaviour is real cool, man. Others, such as myself, don't think it's way cool.

No one said any if this.

Exaggeration works the same from either side of the fence, Callen.

You should know given all your "Gotta get us some revenge" or "Whitey doesn't have a gawddamn clue" comments you love to toss around.

muskydan

josevolution said:

muskydan said:

josevolution said:

and who ever here is saying she punched him is beyond blind ive watched the video she was able to slide her hand across his neck but that was no punch ......Plus if that was my daughter im challenging this cop to a fight we can go to a gym and fight in a ring no weapons just me & him thats how im settling this

OK tough guy….

I knew you would answer so i ask you why couldn't he just drag the whole desk with her on it outside to the hallway , and if you did this to my daughter id def challenge you to a fight in a gym no weapons just fist to fist since his so tough to do that to a girl lets see him defende himself in a controlled environment ...let me ask you are you a parent ?

Perhaps that would have been a better option for this officer.
How I look at it is he cared way too much by his actions and in the end it got his ass fired. See, any wise copper who wants to get to their pension has stopped being proactive years ago due to the all out war on law enforcement by the Media and libbies. Society will be getting the police that they are demanding...just look at Chicago and its 25% increase in homicides this year. Street stops (proactive policing) are down so much that the city refuses to put out that number in fear of it causing a panic that the police have given up due to their hands being tied. So don't get your panties in a bunch when you go calling for the police if you or a family member gets robbed or assaulted by one of these little darlings that have zero respect for authority and civil society. Police will turn into some of the highest paid report takers before you know it, just showing up to jobs and writing reports and only locking up people on signed complaints...the smart ones have already lost that awesome feeling of collaring the bad guy. Sad stuff... But on the bright side, less police will be getting injured due to less hands on incidents and they won't do much till back up and a Sgt. Arrives on scene.

rr165892

She should be expelled and put in therapy for her part of the assault.He lost his job and his livelihood because of the girl.The teacher and students in the class have all said the cop was correct.Whats that tell you

rgambs

callen said:

jeffbr said:

rr165892 said:

Maybe she wants this outcome.She and her family can exploit it,say it's a rascist cop,get publicity and sue.Its all the rage now.
Cops are all rascist pigs and all the people from love able big mike,to the traffic stop angel in Texas to this honor student are just innocently minding their own Buisness.Blah,blah.Same old shit.
If you guys cried for accountability of actions as much as you defend the idiots we might get somewhere with this debate.
Would any of this had happened if the student listened to the first 3-4 requests to leave the classroom? NO.so what is the issue here.It couldn't be the poor cherubs fault could it.Fuckin joke.

Totally agree with you about accountability, RR. We're all quick to call for accountability with the cop, and rightly so, especially since he's the authority figure, and the adult. But where is the cry for accountability in regards to the stupid girl? The cops actions were a direct result of her actions. I believe the cop escalated this beyond where it needed to go, but understand that patience was running thin. What I don't understand is why the stupid girl hasn't been vilified for being an idiot, unless we're all just assuming that all high-school kids are idiots. She doesn't get to play the victim card with me. She was a participant in the events just as the cop was. Comply with the teacher's numerous requests, and the cop wouldn't have even been called in. Comply with the cop's request and it doesn't escalate beyond him showing up to the classroom. She had plenty of opportunity to change the outcome with a simple gesture of putting down her phone. She chose to involve police. She chose to take it beyond a verbal discussion. She needs to partly own the results of her actions, just as the cop is currently being punished for his. In this case the victims were the other students whose education was being disrupted by the choices of this stupid girl.

Because she's an adolescent girl!!!! Accountability in the freakin adults that should know how to handle teens without body slamming them. Jeese.

We should just give up, the cops can do no wrong and it isn't assault of you weren't behaving like a saint.

rgambs

callen said:

jeffbr said:

rr165892 said:

Maybe she wants this outcome.She and her family can exploit it,say it's a rascist cop,get publicity and sue.Its all the rage now.
Cops are all rascist pigs and all the people from love able big mike,to the traffic stop angel in Texas to this honor student are just innocently minding their own Buisness.Blah,blah.Same old shit.
If you guys cried for accountability of actions as much as you defend the idiots we might get somewhere with this debate.
Would any of this had happened if the student listened to the first 3-4 requests to leave the classroom? NO.so what is the issue here.It couldn't be the poor cherubs fault could it.Fuckin joke.

Totally agree with you about accountability, RR. We're all quick to call for accountability with the cop, and rightly so, especially since he's the authority figure, and the adult. But where is the cry for accountability in regards to the stupid girl? The cops actions were a direct result of her actions. I believe the cop escalated this beyond where it needed to go, but understand that patience was running thin. What I don't understand is why the stupid girl hasn't been vilified for being an idiot, unless we're all just assuming that all high-school kids are idiots. She doesn't get to play the victim card with me. She was a participant in the events just as the cop was. Comply with the teacher's numerous requests, and the cop wouldn't have even been called in. Comply with the cop's request and it doesn't escalate beyond him showing up to the classroom. She had plenty of opportunity to change the outcome with a simple gesture of putting down her phone. She chose to involve police. She chose to take it beyond a verbal discussion. She needs to partly own the results of her actions, just as the cop is currently being punished for his. In this case the victims were the other students whose education was being disrupted by the choices of this stupid girl.

Because she's an adolescent girl!!!! Accountability in the freakin adults that should know how to handle teens without body slamming them. Jeese.

We should just give up, the cops can do no wrong and it isn't assault of you weren't behaving like a saint.

PJfanwillneverleave1

It is entirely plausible that this officer was starting to wonder "What if more and more students in this room become uncooperative by following her lead? What if I become outnumbered due to herd mentality and end up having to protect myself."?

A group of teens ganging up on one person, well the amount of damage they could inflict you could only imagine.

The officer took immediate control of the situation and prevented further instances that may have caused injury to himself or others.

rgambs

rr165892 said:

She should be expelled and put in therapy for her part of the assault.He lost his job and his livelihood because of the girl.The teacher and students in the class have all said the cop was correct.Whats that tell you

Not true, and how on Earth can you hold her (a minor) accountable and then say it's her fault he lost his job? That is just ridiculous.

rgambs

rr165892 said:

She should be expelled and put in therapy for her part of the assault.He lost his job and his livelihood because of the girl.The teacher and students in the class have all said the cop was correct.Whats that tell you

Not true, and how on Earth can you hold her accountable and then say it's her fault he lost her job? That is just stupid.

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

It is entirely plausible that this officer was starting to wonder "What if more and more students in this room become uncooperative by following her lead? What if I become outnumbered due to herd mentality and end up having to protect myself."?

A group of teens ganging up on one person, well the amount of damage they could inflict you could only imagine.

The officer took immediate control of the situation and prevented further instances that may have caused injury to himself or others.

Far-fetched to say the least. Quite the stretch.

Gern Blansten

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

It is entirely plausible that this officer was starting to wonder "What if more and more students in this room become uncooperative by following her lead? What if I become outnumbered due to herd mentality and end up having to protect myself."?

A group of teens ganging up on one person, well the amount of damage they could inflict you could only imagine.

The officer took immediate control of the situation and prevented further instances that may have caused injury to himself or others.

You need rest.