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Lightning Bolt masterpiece

callencallen Posts: 6,388
edited July 2014 in The Porch
Just an incredible album. Not many artists put out such a gem later in career.

Followed Yield tonight and it compares.


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    red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    I think LB is one of their best. I agree.
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    The first week it was out I proclaimed it a masterpiece to my friends, who are all 10c members... they were a little mixed. .. but I am not, I love everything about this album
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    RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,207
    I've never been so split on a PJ album, half of the songs I love and can't get enough of and the other half I could take or leave. Overall it ends up in the top half for PJ albums for me which is pretty amazing considering most of the world thinks they disappeared 20 years ago.
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    SS9981SS9981 Posts: 1,729
    Have to agree!
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,898
    RiotZact said:

    I've never been so split on a PJ album, half of the songs I love and can't get enough of and the other half I could take or leave. Overall it ends up in the top half for PJ albums for me which is pretty amazing considering most of the world thinks they disappeared 20 years ago.

    Totally agree with you. I find myself skipping 4 to 5 songs every listen.
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    AponeApone Posts: 580
    I think it's a great album and amazing that a band could put out such a fine record at this stage of their career.

    However I feel it dips slightly in the 2nd half and for that reason I would only have it about eighth best on my list. Just my opinion of course!
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    False_BeliefFalse_Belief Cardiff Posts: 749
    Getaway, MYM, Lightning Bolt, Sirens, Pendulum would have made a killer EP....

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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    I like it but can do without yellow moon and future days. They sound cheesy.
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    Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,002
    I could do without let the records play and infallible, they aren't bad but i just find myself skipping them, but overall I love the album
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    joberschlakejoberschlake Columbus, OH Posts: 1,179
    I can do without Sirens.
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    EarlWelshEarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,103
    I like Infallible to begin with but I find myself skipping it now. I was surprised to like Sleeping By Myself as much as I do. Swallowed Whole is underrated. Great tune. Getaway, My Father's Son, Swallowed Whole, and Yellow Moon are my favorite tracks. Wonderful album.
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    pjradiopjradio Posts: 6,704
    Ten
    No Code
    LB
    Yield
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    rival.rival. Chicago Posts: 7,776
    8-}

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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,922
    edited July 2014
    If you were to play Getaway, Infallible, My Father's Son and Swallowed Whole right now, I'm not sure I could tell you which was which. Those are the tracks that never connected with me and now I tend to skip.
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    j3brow1j3brow1 Posts: 37
    JimmyV said:

    If you were to play Getaway, Infallible, My Father's Son and Swallowed Whole right now, I'm not sure I could tell you which was which. Those are the tracks that never connected with me and now I tend to skip.

    Wow. 4 strong tracks there. To each their own ...
    I'm in the camp that feels this is a very good record. Front to back. Everything from the artwork, music, lyrics, sequencing ...it's all there. Masterpiece? Don't know. I do feel the 2nd half of their career is every bit as good as the first. Riot act --> Avocado ---> Backspacer ---> LB is one hell of a run.
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Where is the love for BS?
    j3brow1 said:

    JimmyV said:

    If you were to play Getaway, Infallible, My Father's Son and Swallowed Whole right now, I'm not sure I could tell you which was which. Those are the tracks that never connected with me and now I tend to skip.

    Wow. 4 strong tracks there. To each their own ...
    I'm in the camp that feels this is a very good record. Front to back. Everything from the artwork, music, lyrics, sequencing ...it's all there. Masterpiece? Don't know. I do feel the 2nd half of their career is every bit as good as the first. Riot act --> Avocado ---> Backspacer ---> LB is one hell of a run.
    Where is the love for BS?
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,922
    j3brow1 said:

    JimmyV said:

    If you were to play Getaway, Infallible, My Father's Son and Swallowed Whole right now, I'm not sure I could tell you which was which. Those are the tracks that never connected with me and now I tend to skip.

    Wow. 4 strong tracks there. To each their own ...
    I'm in the camp that feels this is a very good record. Front to back. Everything from the artwork, music, lyrics, sequencing ...it's all there. Masterpiece? Don't know. I do feel the 2nd half of their career is every bit as good as the first. Riot act --> Avocado ---> Backspacer ---> LB is one hell of a run.
    I agree that Lightning Bolt is a strong album. The four I mentioned just haven't connected with me...yet.

    Pendulum is fantastic. MYM and LB are great additions to the live catalog. I think Yellow Moon is, too. Sirens is beautiful.
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    DP13DP13 Posts: 269
    edited July 2014
    Lightning Bolt should have been two EPs

    #1 "Shucks, I love my family so I need to believe in some afterlife but christianity sure seems like some bs to me lately"
    Getaway, MYM, Infallible, Pendulum

    #2 "Dad is getting old, and afraid of death, so let's (dad) rock"
    Sirens, Future Days, Lightning Bolt, Swallowed Whole

    Not sure Pendulum fits on the first record (it is probably closest to Sirens lyrically), but it certainly isn't dad rock and it is the best song on the album so I wasn't going to cut it.

    Let the Records Play is straight ahead dad rock and could be on #2, but is just not a good song, it would be better fitted as a b-side. I get the feeling that Sleeping by Myself is someone (maybe O'Brien) thinking it could be a pop hit as a full band song. It definitely should have been shelved once it was clear that it wasn't a winner. My Father's Son is another Ament rocker that isn't bad, will be fine live, but makes little impression and will not have staying power (God's Dice, Ghost). Yellow Moon is a swing and a miss lyrically by EV trying to recall his Into the Wild magic. It feels forced and boring. It is the most disappointing song on the album for me because I think that both the tempo, and EV channelling nature is right in PJ's wheelhouse at this stage of their career.
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    weebleweeble Bristol, England Posts: 133
    I love it, but I agree it dies feel a little too Dad Rock! Let The Records Play is so Dad Rock its nuts! The whole album for me is missing a gritty edge. That angst, that raw energy.

    That said, I do prefer it to No Code.....

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    smarcheesmarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    I skip Sirens, Sleeping By Myself and Future Days
    thus, I only skip 3 songs
    thus, since I skip more on self-titled and Backspacer, it is far superior to those albums
    I am pleasantly surprised how good it is
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,922
    If I were to rank the last four albums:

    1) S/T
    2) Lightning Bolt
    3) Riot Act
    4) Backspacer

    LB is a close second. BS is bringing up the rear by quite a bit.
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    Staney12Staney12 Posts: 42
    Ten
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    Vitalogy
    Yield
    No Code
    Lightning Bolt
    Backspacer
    Riot Act
    Binaural
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    Staney12Staney12 Posts: 42
    Ps Unfortunately, I tend to skip Infallible, Let the Records Play & Sleeping By Myself
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,635
    I love it -- every album has a few that have to really grow on you down the road. For LB, to me, it is Yellow Moon & Future Days. I like that they are at the end of the album so I can just listen up through there and cut it. I do listen to them probably 1 out of 5 x. I also tend to skip MYM and Sirens as I listened to the shit out of them when they first came out.
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,922
    The Brendan O'Brien piano outro to end the album still pisses me off.
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    shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,178
    This album is starting to grow on me a little but I just can't get into Let the records play (it is my least favorite song of all time), Sleeping by myself & Future days. This album is not one of my favorites. So I will just leave it at that.
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    If LTRP is "dad rock," then Sirens is "1000% mom rock."
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    callencallen Posts: 6,388
    shadowcast said:

    This album is starting to grow on me a little but I just can't get into Let the records play (it is my least favorite song of all time), Sleeping by myself & Future days. This album is not one of my favorites. So I will just leave it at that.

    Some great guitar on "let the records play". Do skip a few songs but get that same musical high on much of it that drove me to PJ. Self Titled had some as well.

    Just struck how good after following up to Yield.
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    Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Easily their second weakest album after Backspacer.
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    RedMosquito02RedMosquito02 Posts: 2,560
    RiotZact said:

    I've never been so split on a PJ album, half of the songs I love and can't get enough of and the other half I could take or leave. Overall it ends up in the top half for PJ albums for me which is pretty amazing considering most of the world thinks they disappeared 20 years ago.

    This. Exactly.

    Sleeping by Myself and Future Days absolutely destroy the last half of the album for me. There's nothing more I hate than skipping a track on a PJ album.
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