The Endless River - NEW Pink Floyd

AndySlash

Polly Samson tweeted this a few hours ago:

https://twitter.com/PollySamson/status/485411029573439488

"Btw Pink Floyd album out in October is called "The Endless River". Based on 1994 sessions is Rick Wright's swansong and very beautiful."


Durga McBroom followed up on Facebook with:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152553989649784&set=a.163231639783.116471.575559783&type=1

"Remember this photo? It wasn't what you THOUGHT it was. From Polly Samson on Twitter: "Btw Pink Floyd album out in October is called "The Endless River". Based on 1994 sessions is Rick Wright's swansong and very beautiful."

YES. THERE IS A NEW PINK FLOYD ALBUM COMING OUT. AND I'M ON IT. And there was much rejoicing."

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Suffice it to say this is welcome news.

AndySlash

if you're wondering "who the f is polly samson and why should i care what she says?", she is david gilmour's wife.

AndySlash

additionally:

comments on the durga mcbroom page:

Curtis Davis So the Gilmour rumored solo sessions are really for this Floyd album..cool beans.

Durga McBroom-Hudson No, he's going to release a solo album as well.

Ron Fleischer Evidently Pink Floyd management (aka Paul Loasby) is not happy about the news breaking... not one bit. Made Col Turner pull the news off AFG.

Durga McBroom-Hudson I know - he wanted to keep it quiet. But no one is going to tell Polly what to do!! LOL!!

23scidoo

i read about that few minutes ago..interesting..let's wait..

Edved82

Could be interesting. Hope Roger Waters is involved in some way. That Gilmour/Waters partnership is one of the all time greatest.

AndySlash

i honestly would be very surprised if he was. i just don't see it happening.

would love to be wrong, though!

kein_gerede

Is it a new record or just a recycled-songs-collection?

Edved82

Apparently its unreleased music from sessions around the time of the Division Bell. It was meant to be all instrumental but there's some vocals on some of it now, according to one of Gilmour's backing singers. Its the last music to involve Richard Wright. Really looking forward to it.

Eraserhead

Division Bell is a great album, but I'm not getting my hopes up for this TBH

Ledbetterman10

Headlines like "New Pink Floyd album" made me initially think that this was really a reunion with Roger and new material. I even just called my buddy and was ranting about how "Roger probably has has so many awesome ideas in the past 25 years for this!" Unreleased Division Bell stuff? Bummer.

mrussel1

Yeah, I was let down after reading the headline. B side Division Bell isn't anything to get too worked up about. People argue all the time, Gilmour is better than Roger, Roger is the best, Floyd died when Syd went nuts..blah blah.
Fact is that the band is a shell without David and Roger together. It's so sad they can't work it out. I've seen Floyd, and I've seen Roger, but too young to have seen them together. Damn shame.

AndySlash

i have a soft spot for the division bell, so i am excited for this, roger or not. not sure why anyone would think roger and david would creatively record together again.

mrussel1

When HuffingtonPost ran the article, the picture on the caption had Roger and David in it, so I was hopeful.

AndySlash

it does seem that the media is being rather nonchalant about their image usage when it comes to this news. some articles ONLY have a picture of roger! gotta get that newz out though!

Ledbetterman10

Having had a day to digest this news, I'm pretty down on it. Gilmour hated The Final Cut because most of it was songs rejected from The Wall. "If they weren't good enough for The Wall, how are they good enough now?" he said (paraphrased a bit). Now he's running out an album of DIVISION BELL REJECTS twenty years later???? Are you kidding? Look I'm all for anything "new" from Gilmour and/or Waters. And though I'm not really a fan of Lapse of Reason and Division Bell, I like the idea of useable Division Bell sessions seeing the light of day. What I don't like is that they're gonna call it a Pink Floyd album. It's not an album. I'll check it out (of course), but I have the absolute lowest expectations. I'm expecting songs similar to Marooned, but not as good as Marooned. Better than nothing I guess. But I'd rather a new solo record from Dave than this.

Frankly, whatever is gonna be on this Endless River album should have been a part of the 20th anniversary edition of Division Bell as a bonus disc. Like I said, if it's usable material recorded by Dave, Nick, and Rick, it should see the light of day. But as a Pink Floyd album? No way. Calling it a Floyd album is total cash-grab.

AndySlash

they've been talking about releasing these tdb sessions as a "satellite album" dating back to 1994. it even had a working title- the big spliff. this isn't just cutting room floor stuff being cobbled together and put out- if it was, i'd bet it would have simply been included in the box set (like many of the extras in the immersion sets). but they've had bigger plans for this material all along and, in true floyd fashion, they got around to it when they got around to it. if they were inspired to finish it 20 years later in part because rick had passed and they wanted to people to hear more of his work, then good for them for following through.

and pink floyd have been doing cash grabs for 40+ years now. how many times has their catalog been reissued? of course it's a cash grab. it all is. who really cares about that at this point?

Ledbetterman10

AndySlash said:

and pink floyd have been doing cash grabs for 40+ years now. how many times has their catalog been reissued? of course it's a cash grab. it all is. who really cares about that at this point?

I dunno. Catalogs and albums that great should be reissued every twenty or so years for the newer generation (or newer technology). But anyway, it's not really about cash-grabbing. I shouldn't have even ended my last post with that because it was just an afterthought. It's about calling a piece of work one thing when it's clearly another. Roger once said about Lapse Of Reason "I have nothing against Dave Gilmour furthering his own goals. It's just the idea of Dave's solo career masquerading as Pink Floyd that offends me." In that vein, I have nothing against the release of Division Bell studio outtakes. It's just the idea of Division Bell studio outtakes masquerading as a Pink Floyd album that annoys me.

Look, I'll certainly get it. As well as keep up on the press for it in the coming months. I'm all for anything that features David Gilmour playing guitar whether it be with Floyd or his solo work (loved On An Island). And as you noted, to hear some final music from Rick will be very pleasurable. I guess I'm just bummed over going from the highest of highs after seeing a headline on Rolling Stone that read "Pink Floyd To Release First New Album in 20 Years" and then being snapped back to reality when I read the article. Like I said in my last post, it sounds like something that would make for a perfect Disc Two for the recent Division Bell reissue rather than it's own album. But we'll see. Maybe it'll be so awesome that to be a second disc on a reissue would be beneath it. Or maybe not. Again, we'll see.

AndySlash

i can see why the news headline, when accompanied by a photo including roger especially, could yield a OMG!!!!!!1111 by floyd fans only to have the reality set in after the fact. i can certainly understand there would be confusion and/or disappointment. i guess i should be thankful my experience in hearing the news was being shown reality right out of the gate.

man, i'm just excited to hear new pink floyd material, period. we can get into the semantics of 'which one's pink?' and what constitutes a pink floyd album, but that stuff has been done to death in part because, save for on an island, they've given us nothing new to sink our teeth into for over 20 years. but now "new pink floyd music" is a reality and i can't be more excited for it.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

I'm as big a fan of Floyd as anyone.

Momentary Lapse of Reason was 'okay'. I don't own the Divison Bell. I might purchase this new offering out of boredom, but I too hold little hope that the album is going to be anything revolutionary (although I would do flips if it was). The material on their last two albums simply doesn't hold water compared to what an intact Floyd had managed to produce. Waters' lyrics and vocals were critical components of this band.

I've seen Floyd for both of the aforementioned tours as well, but I never deluded myself into thinking these guys were Pink Floyd. I immensely enjoyed the shows and they were great concerts, but Waters' absence made 'Pink Floyd' a shadow of itself.

AndySlash

whoa, Ledbetterman10, are you Mike Portnoy?!

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/mike-portnoy-new-pink-floyd/

If you’re a classic rock fan, chances are you’re excited about the recent news regarding the impending release of Pink Floyd‘s first new album in over 20 years. Not everyone shares that enthusiasm, however.

Winery Dogs drummer Mike Portnoy shared his ambivalence about the idea in a post on his Facebook page, arguing that the group has gone through too many lineup changes to carry on under the Floyd banner in good conscience. “What’s this about a new ‘Pink Floyd’ album?” he wondered. “Last I checked, [Roger] Waters is no longer in the band and [Richard] Wright & [Syd] Barrett are dead.”

Musing further on the news that the new project (dubbed ‘The Endless River’) originated from recordings made during 1994 sessions for the David Gilmour-led edition’s most recent album, Portnoy argued, “If these are leftovers from ‘The Division Bell’ sessions, then just put em on a ‘TDB’ Special Edition release! It’s disrespectful to Roger & everything he built for all those years!” As he sees it, Gilmour should “just do a solo album.”

Given that a deluxe ‘Division Bell’ reissue was recently released, it’s easy to see where Portnoy is coming from on that last point. He admits, however, that his ire really stems from the absence of the creative tension between Waters and Gilmour — something quite a few fans also miss.

In a subsequent post, he added, “OK, I’ll meet the Gilmour fans half-way and say IMO, the ‘real’ Pink Floyd is BOTH Gilmour/Waters TOGETHER….’[Piper at the Gates of Dawn'] was a Syd album, ‘The Final Cut’ was a Waters album and ['A Momentary Lapse of Reason']/’TDB’ are Gilmour albums…the ‘magic’ was Waters/Gilmour TOGETHER.”

elvistheking44

I am a huge fan of The Division Bell. A turning point in my life listening to this the summer of 94. Saw the show in Ames Iowa, mind blown. Sign me up for anything that came out of those sessions.

23scidoo

This is gonna released on October??..is that true??

BinFrog

23scidoo said:

This is gonna released on October??..is that true??

yes

Mad Mohab

This is going to be so great. Whats not to like? Spacey instrumental tracks from Gilmour/Mason/Wright originally called the Big Spliff, now Endless River sounds pretty great to me at this point.

On another note, Roger has done great things, but whats with rehashing the Wall over and over. I thought it was profound when I was 16, but its a dead horse. He knocks their highly superior, far more interesting, timeless and uplifting early stuff in place of what, Ca Ira? I am a lifer but I'd trade all his pst Floyd works for another Seashell and Stone / Granchester Meadows / Set the Controls any day of the week! Go camping Roger, savour the grass while it lasts in your own words!

PS CHeck out his cuts on Music from the Body if you haven't and need a hit of pure Floyd.

23scidoo

this is the first samble

http://youtu.be/u6ivKOuyCfE

red mos

I am looking forward to this, but I wonder if there will be any touring behind this? If so, whom will play cause Richard passed away and Gilmour and Waters still don't seem to be on that best of terms even though Gilmour did make an appearance on the Wall tour ( the most recent one),but if memory serves, it was only for a show or two on a song or two?

23scidoo

It was only for the last show in London,only for the Comfortbly numb..and i think there is no tour for sure..

2-feign-reluctance

So will this be just instrumental music? No vox?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

I checked out that sample. I'm not holding my breath, but what I heard sounds like something I could listen to.

If Gilmour isn't one of the all-time greats... I have no idea who is.

PJ_Soul

My first concert ever was Pink Floyd during the Division Bell tour, so I have a soft spot for that album too (even though the songs that made that show incredible were not from that album), but I acknowledge that it's basically garbage compared to earlier Floyd, lol. I still don't think it's a terrible album though.... just weird for Pink Floyd and not up to their level. I am very curious to hear this unreleased stuff, but I am definitely not expecting it to blow my mind or anything.... if I think it's half decent I'll be content. If i actually think it's really good I'll be happily shocked.

PJ_Soul

Btw, The Endless River?? What a cheez-ball name for an album.