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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    But I thought they were going to pay for the Wall? Maybe we should just give everyone crossing the Southern border a firearm before sending them back? That'll solve our immigration crisis. 'Murica, exporting its greatness. "Responsible" gun owners, who knew? For all the freedumb lovers out there, does the 2A extend to Mexico?

    Mexico to sue U.S.-based gunmakers over flow of arms across border

    MEXICO CITY — The Mexican government said Wednesday it plans to file legal action against several major U.S.-based gun manufacturers, alleging that lax controls contribute to the illegal flow of weapons over the border, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post.

    The unusual suit is expected to be filed in U.S. federal court in Boston, since some of the manufacturers are headquartered in Massachusetts, according to the documents. The suit — which seeks unspecified financial compensation from the companies — does not target the U.S. government.

    Mexican authorities believe U.S.-made weapons have fueled the explosive violence that has transformed parts of the country over the past decade. Around 2.5 million illicit American guns have poured across the border in that time period, according to a Mexican government study released last year. Legal gun sales in Mexico are tightly restricted.

    The lawsuit maintains that the U.S. arms manufacturers “are conscious of the fact that their products are trafficked and used in illicit activities against the civilian population and authorities of Mexico,” according to a document from the Foreign Ministry.

    “Nonetheless, they continue to prioritize their economic benefit, and use marketing strategies to promote weapons that are ever more lethal, without mechanisms of security or traceability,” the statement continued.

    The suit names companies including Smith & Wesson Brands, Inc.; Barrett Firearms Manufacturing, Inc; Beretta U.S.A. Corp; Glock, Inc; and Colt’s Manufacturing Co. Llc.

    The lawsuit also seeks the adoption of tighter controls in sales and security features on weapons. It also wants the companies to undertake studies and media campaigns to prevent arms trafficking.

    Continues.......................

    Mexico plans lawsuit against U.S-based gunmakers over flow of weapons across border - The Washington Post

    This is one of the most ridiculous things I've read in a long time. 
    Pretty ridiculous. No way corporate executives at US firearms manufacturers would have an inkling. Kinda like tobacco company executives not knowing their/there/they’re products caused health problems.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/the-flow-of-guns-from-the-u-s-to-mexico-is-getting-lost-in-the-border-debate
    Maybe the criminals on both sides of the border, you know, the ones directly responsible for illegally trafficking firearms, should be held accountable. 

    This lawsuit has nothing to do with stopping guns from crossing the border, it has everything to do with making the "evil corporations" pay. 

    I'd be willing to bet that cartels are responsible for the majority of guns entering Mexico, and they are also responsible for a lot of illegal gun trafficking in the US too. Not quite as easy to sue a cartel as American corporations though.

    If the Mexican government wins this case, I predict absolutely no less illegal gun trafficking at the Mexican border, but some Mexican government officials will be able to buy some nice shit. 
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  • cblock4life
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    dudeman said:
    cblock4life said:
    Before I ask know that I’m not anti amendment #2…..I own a gun and if my pit bull doesn’t stop someone from breaking in then the gun will.  FYI police officer at my house once said the dog is the best defense 

    Is it true that men who collect guns are compensating for small genitalia?  Heard this all my life 
    Does this also apply to the millions of women who own guns? FFS.
    Sure, if that makes you feel better. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,002
    ‘Murica. Nothing can be done. Thoughts and prayers. More guns and less restrictions are the answer.


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  • mickeyrat
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    edited August 2021
    completely out of field. who could have foreseen this happening. such a fluke...


    Police: Toddler fatally shot woman during work video call
    Today

    ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, Fla. (AP) — A toddler found an unsecured, loaded handgun inside an apartment and fatally shot a woman while she was on a work-related video call, police in central Florida said.

    According to news outlets, the woman was the mother of the toddler who shot her in the head Wednesday.

    Someone on the video call dialed 911 after seeing the toddler in the background and hearing a noise, Altamonte Springs police said in a news release Thursday. The woman, identified as 21-year-old Shamaya Lynn, fell backward and never returned to the video call, the person reported.

    “Officers and paramedics did their best in rendering aid to Mrs. Lynn, but she was found with a fatal gunshot wound to the head,” police stated.

    An adult in the apartment left the firearm unsecured, police said. Investigators were working with the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office to determine whether charges will be filed.



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  • Bentleyspop
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    mickeyrat said:
    completely out of field. who could have foreseen this happening. such a fluke...


    Police: Toddler fatally shot woman during work video call
    Today

    ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, Fla. (AP) — A toddler found an unsecured, loaded handgun inside an apartment and fatally shot a woman while she was on a work-related video call, police in central Florida said.

    According to news outlets, the woman was the mother of the toddler who shot her in the head Wednesday.

    Someone on the video call dialed 911 after seeing the toddler in the background and hearing a noise, Altamonte Springs police said in a news release Thursday. The woman, identified as 21-year-old Shamaya Lynn, fell backward and never returned to the video call, the person reported.

    “Officers and paramedics did their best in rendering aid to Mrs. Lynn, but she was found with a fatal gunshot wound to the head,” police stated.

    An adult in the apartment left the firearm unsecured, police said. Investigators were working with the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office to determine whether charges will be filed.



    Guns don't  kill people 


    The infant children of gun owners kill people
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mickeyrat said:
    completely out of field. who could have foreseen this happening. such a fluke...


    Police: Toddler fatally shot woman during work video call
    Today

    ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, Fla. (AP) — A toddler found an unsecured, loaded handgun inside an apartment and fatally shot a woman while she was on a work-related video call, police in central Florida said.

    According to news outlets, the woman was the mother of the toddler who shot her in the head Wednesday.

    Someone on the video call dialed 911 after seeing the toddler in the background and hearing a noise, Altamonte Springs police said in a news release Thursday. The woman, identified as 21-year-old Shamaya Lynn, fell backward and never returned to the video call, the person reported.

    “Officers and paramedics did their best in rendering aid to Mrs. Lynn, but she was found with a fatal gunshot wound to the head,” police stated.

    An adult in the apartment left the firearm unsecured, police said. Investigators were working with the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office to determine whether charges will be filed.



    “To determine whether charges will be filed.” Responsibility at its finest. 
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  • Merkin Baller
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    completely out of field. who could have foreseen this happening. such a fluke...


    Police: Toddler fatally shot woman during work video call
    Today

    ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, Fla. (AP) — A toddler found an unsecured, loaded handgun inside an apartment and fatally shot a woman while she was on a work-related video call, police in central Florida said.

    According to news outlets, the woman was the mother of the toddler who shot her in the head Wednesday.

    Someone on the video call dialed 911 after seeing the toddler in the background and hearing a noise, Altamonte Springs police said in a news release Thursday. The woman, identified as 21-year-old Shamaya Lynn, fell backward and never returned to the video call, the person reported.

    “Officers and paramedics did their best in rendering aid to Mrs. Lynn, but she was found with a fatal gunshot wound to the head,” police stated.

    An adult in the apartment left the firearm unsecured, police said. Investigators were working with the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office to determine whether charges will be filed.



    “To determine whether charges will be filed.” Responsibility at its finest. 
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  • dudeman
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    completely out of field. who could have foreseen this happening. such a fluke...


    Police: Toddler fatally shot woman during work video call
    Today

    ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, Fla. (AP) — A toddler found an unsecured, loaded handgun inside an apartment and fatally shot a woman while she was on a work-related video call, police in central Florida said.

    According to news outlets, the woman was the mother of the toddler who shot her in the head Wednesday.

    Someone on the video call dialed 911 after seeing the toddler in the background and hearing a noise, Altamonte Springs police said in a news release Thursday. The woman, identified as 21-year-old Shamaya Lynn, fell backward and never returned to the video call, the person reported.

    “Officers and paramedics did their best in rendering aid to Mrs. Lynn, but she was found with a fatal gunshot wound to the head,” police stated.

    An adult in the apartment left the firearm unsecured, police said. Investigators were working with the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office to determine whether charges will be filed.



    “To determine whether charges will be filed.” Responsibility at its finest. 
    Are you certain that the woman who was killed was not the negligent owner of the unsecured firearm?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,002
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    completely out of field. who could have foreseen this happening. such a fluke...


    Police: Toddler fatally shot woman during work video call
    Today

    ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, Fla. (AP) — A toddler found an unsecured, loaded handgun inside an apartment and fatally shot a woman while she was on a work-related video call, police in central Florida said.

    According to news outlets, the woman was the mother of the toddler who shot her in the head Wednesday.

    Someone on the video call dialed 911 after seeing the toddler in the background and hearing a noise, Altamonte Springs police said in a news release Thursday. The woman, identified as 21-year-old Shamaya Lynn, fell backward and never returned to the video call, the person reported.

    “Officers and paramedics did their best in rendering aid to Mrs. Lynn, but she was found with a fatal gunshot wound to the head,” police stated.

    An adult in the apartment left the firearm unsecured, police said. Investigators were working with the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office to determine whether charges will be filed.



    “To determine whether charges will be filed.” Responsibility at its finest. 
    Are you certain that the woman who was killed was not the negligent owner of the unsecured firearm?
    Shouldn’t the other “responsible” adult be held accountable? Who cares though, right? “Wasn’t my gun.” 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Serves him right, right? Maybe he should be charged as well? Or, he’s suffered enough? “Responsible.”

    https://www.boston.com/news/crime/2021/08/13/woman-using-guns-laser-sight-to-play-with-cat-shoots-friend/
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  • Merkin Baller
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Serves him right, right? Maybe he should be charged as well? Or, he’s suffered enough? “Responsible.”

    https://www.boston.com/news/crime/2021/08/13/woman-using-guns-laser-sight-to-play-with-cat-shoots-friend/
    I'm just glad the cat's ok. 
  • JeBurkhardt
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    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Serves him right, right? Maybe he should be charged as well? Or, he’s suffered enough? “Responsible.”

    https://www.boston.com/news/crime/2021/08/13/woman-using-guns-laser-sight-to-play-with-cat-shoots-friend/
    I'm just glad the cat's ok. 
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  • dudeman
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    completely out of field. who could have foreseen this happening. such a fluke...


    Police: Toddler fatally shot woman during work video call
    Today

    ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, Fla. (AP) — A toddler found an unsecured, loaded handgun inside an apartment and fatally shot a woman while she was on a work-related video call, police in central Florida said.

    According to news outlets, the woman was the mother of the toddler who shot her in the head Wednesday.

    Someone on the video call dialed 911 after seeing the toddler in the background and hearing a noise, Altamonte Springs police said in a news release Thursday. The woman, identified as 21-year-old Shamaya Lynn, fell backward and never returned to the video call, the person reported.

    “Officers and paramedics did their best in rendering aid to Mrs. Lynn, but she was found with a fatal gunshot wound to the head,” police stated.

    An adult in the apartment left the firearm unsecured, police said. Investigators were working with the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office to determine whether charges will be filed.



    “To determine whether charges will be filed.” Responsibility at its finest. 
    Are you certain that the woman who was killed was not the negligent owner of the unsecured firearm?
    Shouldn’t the other “responsible” adult be held accountable? Who cares though, right? “Wasn’t my gun.” 
    There may not be another adult. Plenty of single parent households. 

    If someone else in the household left a loaded gun lying around, accessible to kids or anyone else, I think they should absolutely be prosecuted. Not really enough details known in this story for me to demand anything from anyone. 
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  • mickeyrat
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    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    completely out of field. who could have foreseen this happening. such a fluke...


    Police: Toddler fatally shot woman during work video call
    Today

    ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, Fla. (AP) — A toddler found an unsecured, loaded handgun inside an apartment and fatally shot a woman while she was on a work-related video call, police in central Florida said.

    According to news outlets, the woman was the mother of the toddler who shot her in the head Wednesday.

    Someone on the video call dialed 911 after seeing the toddler in the background and hearing a noise, Altamonte Springs police said in a news release Thursday. The woman, identified as 21-year-old Shamaya Lynn, fell backward and never returned to the video call, the person reported.

    “Officers and paramedics did their best in rendering aid to Mrs. Lynn, but she was found with a fatal gunshot wound to the head,” police stated.

    An adult in the apartment left the firearm unsecured, police said. Investigators were working with the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office to determine whether charges will be filed.



    “To determine whether charges will be filed.” Responsibility at its finest. 
    Are you certain that the woman who was killed was not the negligent owner of the unsecured firearm?
    Shouldn’t the other “responsible” adult be held accountable? Who cares though, right? “Wasn’t my gun.” 
    There may not be another adult. Plenty of single parent households. 

    If someone else in the household left a loaded gun lying around, accessible to kids or anyone else, I think they should absolutely be prosecuted. Not really enough details known in this story for me to demand anything from anyone. 
    last paragraph starts with an adult left the weapon unsecured.  certainly inferring that there was a second adult associated with the apartment at least.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    completely out of field. who could have foreseen this happening. such a fluke...


    Police: Toddler fatally shot woman during work video call
    Today

    ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, Fla. (AP) — A toddler found an unsecured, loaded handgun inside an apartment and fatally shot a woman while she was on a work-related video call, police in central Florida said.

    According to news outlets, the woman was the mother of the toddler who shot her in the head Wednesday.

    Someone on the video call dialed 911 after seeing the toddler in the background and hearing a noise, Altamonte Springs police said in a news release Thursday. The woman, identified as 21-year-old Shamaya Lynn, fell backward and never returned to the video call, the person reported.

    “Officers and paramedics did their best in rendering aid to Mrs. Lynn, but she was found with a fatal gunshot wound to the head,” police stated.

    An adult in the apartment left the firearm unsecured, police said. Investigators were working with the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office to determine whether charges will be filed.



    “To determine whether charges will be filed.” Responsibility at its finest. 
    Are you certain that the woman who was killed was not the negligent owner of the unsecured firearm?
    Shouldn’t the other “responsible” adult be held accountable? Who cares though, right? “Wasn’t my gun.” 
    There may not be another adult. Plenty of single parent households. 

    If someone else in the household left a loaded gun lying around, accessible to kids or anyone else, I think they should absolutely be prosecuted. Not really enough details known in this story for me to demand anything from anyone. 
    Inclusive of being a felon, prohibited from owning firearms, surrendering other firearms in their possession, upon conviction?
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    completely out of field. who could have foreseen this happening. such a fluke...


    Police: Toddler fatally shot woman during work video call
    Today

    ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, Fla. (AP) — A toddler found an unsecured, loaded handgun inside an apartment and fatally shot a woman while she was on a work-related video call, police in central Florida said.

    According to news outlets, the woman was the mother of the toddler who shot her in the head Wednesday.

    Someone on the video call dialed 911 after seeing the toddler in the background and hearing a noise, Altamonte Springs police said in a news release Thursday. The woman, identified as 21-year-old Shamaya Lynn, fell backward and never returned to the video call, the person reported.

    “Officers and paramedics did their best in rendering aid to Mrs. Lynn, but she was found with a fatal gunshot wound to the head,” police stated.

    An adult in the apartment left the firearm unsecured, police said. Investigators were working with the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office to determine whether charges will be filed.



    “To determine whether charges will be filed.” Responsibility at its finest. 
    Are you certain that the woman who was killed was not the negligent owner of the unsecured firearm?
    Shouldn’t the other “responsible” adult be held accountable? Who cares though, right? “Wasn’t my gun.” 
    There may not be another adult. Plenty of single parent households. 

    If someone else in the household left a loaded gun lying around, accessible to kids or anyone else, I think they should absolutely be prosecuted. Not really enough details known in this story for me to demand anything from anyone. 
    Inclusive of being a felon, prohibited from owning firearms, surrendering other firearms in their possession, upon conviction?
    Absolutely 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,002
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    completely out of field. who could have foreseen this happening. such a fluke...


    Police: Toddler fatally shot woman during work video call
    Today

    ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, Fla. (AP) — A toddler found an unsecured, loaded handgun inside an apartment and fatally shot a woman while she was on a work-related video call, police in central Florida said.

    According to news outlets, the woman was the mother of the toddler who shot her in the head Wednesday.

    Someone on the video call dialed 911 after seeing the toddler in the background and hearing a noise, Altamonte Springs police said in a news release Thursday. The woman, identified as 21-year-old Shamaya Lynn, fell backward and never returned to the video call, the person reported.

    “Officers and paramedics did their best in rendering aid to Mrs. Lynn, but she was found with a fatal gunshot wound to the head,” police stated.

    An adult in the apartment left the firearm unsecured, police said. Investigators were working with the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office to determine whether charges will be filed.



    “To determine whether charges will be filed.” Responsibility at its finest. 
    Are you certain that the woman who was killed was not the negligent owner of the unsecured firearm?
    Shouldn’t the other “responsible” adult be held accountable? Who cares though, right? “Wasn’t my gun.” 
    There may not be another adult. Plenty of single parent households. 

    If someone else in the household left a loaded gun lying around, accessible to kids or anyone else, I think they should absolutely be prosecuted. Not really enough details known in this story for me to demand anything from anyone. 
    Inclusive of being a felon, prohibited from owning firearms, surrendering other firearms in their possession, upon conviction?
    Absolutely 
    Write your congresspeople.
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  • dudeman
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    completely out of field. who could have foreseen this happening. such a fluke...


    Police: Toddler fatally shot woman during work video call
    Today

    ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, Fla. (AP) — A toddler found an unsecured, loaded handgun inside an apartment and fatally shot a woman while she was on a work-related video call, police in central Florida said.

    According to news outlets, the woman was the mother of the toddler who shot her in the head Wednesday.

    Someone on the video call dialed 911 after seeing the toddler in the background and hearing a noise, Altamonte Springs police said in a news release Thursday. The woman, identified as 21-year-old Shamaya Lynn, fell backward and never returned to the video call, the person reported.

    “Officers and paramedics did their best in rendering aid to Mrs. Lynn, but she was found with a fatal gunshot wound to the head,” police stated.

    An adult in the apartment left the firearm unsecured, police said. Investigators were working with the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office to determine whether charges will be filed.



    “To determine whether charges will be filed.” Responsibility at its finest. 
    Are you certain that the woman who was killed was not the negligent owner of the unsecured firearm?
    Shouldn’t the other “responsible” adult be held accountable? Who cares though, right? “Wasn’t my gun.” 
    There may not be another adult. Plenty of single parent households. 

    If someone else in the household left a loaded gun lying around, accessible to kids or anyone else, I think they should absolutely be prosecuted. Not really enough details known in this story for me to demand anything from anyone. 
    Inclusive of being a felon, prohibited from owning firearms, surrendering other firearms in their possession, upon conviction?
    Absolutely 
    Write your congresspeople.
    What? This is 2021!

    I think I would rather post my thoughts on political issues on some rock band's forum and hope that things change from there. 

    Get real.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,002
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    completely out of field. who could have foreseen this happening. such a fluke...


    Police: Toddler fatally shot woman during work video call
    Today

    ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, Fla. (AP) — A toddler found an unsecured, loaded handgun inside an apartment and fatally shot a woman while she was on a work-related video call, police in central Florida said.

    According to news outlets, the woman was the mother of the toddler who shot her in the head Wednesday.

    Someone on the video call dialed 911 after seeing the toddler in the background and hearing a noise, Altamonte Springs police said in a news release Thursday. The woman, identified as 21-year-old Shamaya Lynn, fell backward and never returned to the video call, the person reported.

    “Officers and paramedics did their best in rendering aid to Mrs. Lynn, but she was found with a fatal gunshot wound to the head,” police stated.

    An adult in the apartment left the firearm unsecured, police said. Investigators were working with the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office to determine whether charges will be filed.



    “To determine whether charges will be filed.” Responsibility at its finest. 
    Are you certain that the woman who was killed was not the negligent owner of the unsecured firearm?
    Shouldn’t the other “responsible” adult be held accountable? Who cares though, right? “Wasn’t my gun.” 
    There may not be another adult. Plenty of single parent households. 

    If someone else in the household left a loaded gun lying around, accessible to kids or anyone else, I think they should absolutely be prosecuted. Not really enough details known in this story for me to demand anything from anyone. 
    Inclusive of being a felon, prohibited from owning firearms, surrendering other firearms in their possession, upon conviction?
    Absolutely 
    Write your congresspeople.
    What? This is 2021!

    I think I would rather post my thoughts on political issues on some rock band's forum and hope that things change from there. 

    Get real.
    Thanks for doing your part. Seems you’re just fine with the status quo. Figures.
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  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,528

    Saw this today in my FB feed from one of the local yokels from my hometown. Donate to Toys for Kids, win an AR-15. Why not just give the guns to the kids?
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