America's Gun Violence

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dudeman said:
    People appear to be stocking up on guns and ammo around here, too.
    Where is “around here?”
    Michigan. 
    That borders Canada, right?
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  • dudeman
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dudeman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dudeman said:
    People appear to be stocking up on guns and ammo around here, too.
    Where is “around here?”
    Michigan. 
    That borders Canada, right?
    I don't know. I went to public school in the US.
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  • mcgruff10
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    Pretty sure Michigan borders Hawaii and the Canary Islands.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Pretty sure Michigan borders Hawaii and the Canary Islands.
    Those fucking canaries, stealing your seeds and making all that racket! Makes sense then.
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  • josevolution
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/us/coronavirus-gun-buyers.amp.html
    I guess the fear might be legit specially for people of oriental descent , dummies standing on line close to each other! If the bullets won’t get you the silent killer will..
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  • dudeman
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    People I have talked to in the community have told me that there is a shortage of ammo and survival gear locally. I looked online to see for myself and it looks like 9mm ammo is pretty scarce.

    It's more frightening to me that people are seemingly unwilling or incapable of adapting to the COVID-19 situation than the virus itself. 

    I sincerely hope that people desperate for food and supplies don't start targeting other people as the closures continue. However, I don't know if I could rule out that possibility with absolute certainty. 

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  • mace1229
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mace1229 said:
    If I wasn’t already a gun owner, and if I wasn’t anti-gun, and lived in a major city like LA I would be considering buying my first gun right now.
    which is a weird thing to say because there is less gun violence per capita in cities than there is in rural areas
    Why? Big cities are the ones getting prepared for mass looting. LA county sent a memo to all the deputies yesterday ordering them to only arrest for the most severe crimes because with courts being closed people who are locked up and expected to be put in a matter of days will likely be locked up for months instead and there is going to be overcrowding like they’ve never seen before. I know because my brother showed me this memo he got. It’s some crazy stuff they are preparing for. Average town mid-America probably won’t experience this, but LA probably will.
    “I know because my brother showed me this memo he got. It’s some crazy stuff they are preparing for.” Like what?

    You previously claimed there was going to be a total lock down of LA. Yet, no press reports of such a thing. You’ve also claimed that Sleepy “Woke” Biden “forced” his secret Service detail to watch him swim naked, yet you didn’t want to link to it because of “work.” Well, I think you’re home now, prove me wrong.

    And now, upon checking about that curfew you also claimed your brother told you about, there’s not one google hit, except for LA having a curfew for those under 18 between the hours of 11:00 pm and 6:00 a.m. Please start linking to facts and stop making shit up.

    “LA county will only arrest for the most serious crimes?” Can you link to that as well? Because something like that would be newsworthy, right? Like Biden “forcing” his SS detail to watch him swim naked? And in an organization as large as the LA County Sheriff’s Department that would never come to light, right? But you “know.”

    Maybe screen shot the shared memo, redacting names to protect the innocent?

    Fear, it’s a beautiful thing.
    Dude, what’s your beef with everyone? What do you have against me for sharing information?
    let me help you with the fact though.
    I never said LA was on full lock down. I shared a memo my brother received saying all deputies are to report to patrol and vacation has been revoked. To be prepared for looting and riots in the event of a mass quarantine. Like what the Bay Area just didn’t, do why is it so unbelievable LA might do the same thing? Which happened today, he reported tonpatrol for the first time in 6 or 7 years, with his riot gear. That doesn’t mean he used it, just had to have it with him in the patrol car. 

    In that memo (and another one he shared today) states to only arrest for severe crimes. There is no link, this was a briefing with the deputies that my brother shared with me via text. Just sharing what my brother who is a cop in LA is sharing with me.Why would that be on the news? It’s not like the sheriff dept is going to notify the press and say “hey, by the way go tell everyone we are going to cut back in arrests.” A little common sense can go a long way. That won’t be an official stance the news reports. Again, just sharing what my brother told me who actually is a cop in LA. But I guess you know more about LA cops than an actual LA cop though. So please share all your inside info with us? You don’t have to beleieve me, but you always seem to have a problem when u share some personal. It’s kinda weird actually. Like obsessed or something, not really sure what your deal is again.
    I never said Biden did swim naked. I asked if anyone else that and knows whatever happened about the accusations. A far stretch from making a claim. I actually speficially said I didn’t know if it was found to be true or false. Sort of the opposite of what you said. And by sort of, I mean completely the opposite.

    Why are you bringing things from other threads into this discussion? Believe me or not, I don’t care. I’m just sharing what information I was given by my brother who’s a cop for 20 years in LA, so I believe him over you. He doesn’t need to send me copies and transcripts of what happened, he just shared info with me when we call or text. But this is getting borderline creepy here.
    ive avoided responded to you for a long time for weird stuff like this, was Hopi to have an adult conversation. I tried my best.
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  • mace1229
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    I shouldn’t have to share a written memo with blacked out names. Use common sense. Courts will be closed for months, that’s a fact, you can google that if you don’t believe me.
    People in jail with court dates this week, next week, next month and so on will just be sitting in jail. They can’t continue to make arrests when the people already there don’t have a judge to see. It’s sort of common sense, why you think this is some big conspiracy on my end to make all this up is beyond me.
  • josevolution
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    mace1229 said:
    I didn’t read it the first time because when I try to read a NYT articles it always asks me to subscribe. But trying again this one didn’t for some reason. 
    None of that article seems out of the norm though.
    One guy said he’s buying a gun because his neighbor has been threatening him, nothing to do with the virus. Asian-Americans are buying more guns because people are threatening them over this virus. Both se pretty legit reasons to me.
    Gun sales always go up when people think a Democrat might be elected. I don’t always agree with that, but that is completely “normal,” factor in the person Biden says he’ll put in charge has said “he’ll yes” he’ll take assault rifles away if he is in charge. So of course assault weapons sales go up. I’ve said before sometimes Democrats can be the best thing for gun manufactures. 
    And lastly, it does cite several cases of just fear of this virus, as mentioned in the leading sentence. That seems most reasonable of all. Things are already going crazy. It’s worse than when Popeyes ran out of their sandwich. And if people get that crazy over a chicken sandwich, imagine how it will get when people go a month without toilet paper and other basics. Compound that with little to no police force, yes, this has the potential to be very crazy. New Orleans after Katrina level of crazy. 
    If things really do get shut down for 4-8 weeks or even longer and if supplies are hard to come by, it has that potential. 
    I’m no saying it definitely will, but the level of chaos I saw on Costco 3 days ago, pushin  and shoving, everyone acting like they are a contestant on Supermarket Sweepstakes, imagine how they will behave in a month if things get worse and no better. I don’t think that is stupidity and paranoia. 
    Yeah Asian Americans should be afraid of the Baffoon followers after all he already gave them the ammo, remember China virus said by whom!
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    josevolution said:
    mace1229 said:
    I didn’t read it the first time because when I try to read a NYT articles it always asks me to subscribe. But trying again this one didn’t for some reason. 
    None of that article seems out of the norm though.
    One guy said he’s buying a gun because his neighbor has been threatening him, nothing to do with the virus. Asian-Americans are buying more guns because people are threatening them over this virus. Both se pretty legit reasons to me.
    Gun sales always go up when people think a Democrat might be elected. I don’t always agree with that, but that is completely “normal,” factor in the person Biden says he’ll put in charge has said “he’ll yes” he’ll take assault rifles away if he is in charge. So of course assault weapons sales go up. I’ve said before sometimes Democrats can be the best thing for gun manufactures. 
    And lastly, it does cite several cases of just fear of this virus, as mentioned in the leading sentence. That seems most reasonable of all. Things are already going crazy. It’s worse than when Popeyes ran out of their sandwich. And if people get that crazy over a chicken sandwich, imagine how it will get when people go a month without toilet paper and other basics. Compound that with little to no police force, yes, this has the potential to be very crazy. New Orleans after Katrina level of crazy. 
    If things really do get shut down for 4-8 weeks or even longer and if supplies are hard to come by, it has that potential. 
    I’m no saying it definitely will, but the level of chaos I saw on Costco 3 days ago, pushin  and shoving, everyone acting like they are a contestant on Supermarket Sweepstakes, imagine how they will behave in a month if things get worse and no better. I don’t think that is stupidity and paranoia. 
    Yeah Asian Americans should be afraid of the Baffoon followers after all he already gave them the ammo, remember China virus said by whom!
    China's state news is telling their people that the American army are the ones that infected China...which is bullshit. So I guess Trump's trying to counter that bullshit. That said, HE shouldn't be the one to call it that. Like you said, for the sake of Chinese Americans that might be targeted. But while it might be irresponsible, it's not really xenophobic to call it a Chinese virus considering it came from China, and the virus is THEIR FAULT because it either came from one of their disgusting, inhumane street markets, or some lab fuck-up. 

    The liberal media was calling it both the "Chinese Virus" and the "Wuhan Virus" throughout January and into February. Then suddenly, they stopped, and began calling out Fox News for being xenophobic for using those terms. I wonder what changed? A desire to be "woke?" Directives from the Chinese government to stop calling it that? I could have my timeline wrong, but I think around the time that the liberal media stopped using it, was when China's state news began blaming America for it. 

    Your heart's in the right place if you're concerned for Chinese Americans. But China itself and it's government? Fuck them. This is completely their fault, and now they're trying to blame America for it. I get it, Trump sucks. But I'd rather him stick up for America than side with China in a circumstance like this. 
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  • mcgruff10
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mace1229 said:
    I didn’t read it the first time because when I try to read a NYT articles it always asks me to subscribe. But trying again this one didn’t for some reason. 
    None of that article seems out of the norm though.
    One guy said he’s buying a gun because his neighbor has been threatening him, nothing to do with the virus. Asian-Americans are buying more guns because people are threatening them over this virus. Both se pretty legit reasons to me.
    Gun sales always go up when people think a Democrat might be elected. I don’t always agree with that, but that is completely “normal,” factor in the person Biden says he’ll put in charge has said “he’ll yes” he’ll take assault rifles away if he is in charge. So of course assault weapons sales go up. I’ve said before sometimes Democrats can be the best thing for gun manufactures. 
    And lastly, it does cite several cases of just fear of this virus, as mentioned in the leading sentence. That seems most reasonable of all. Things are already going crazy. It’s worse than when Popeyes ran out of their sandwich. And if people get that crazy over a chicken sandwich, imagine how it will get when people go a month without toilet paper and other basics. Compound that with little to no police force, yes, this has the potential to be very crazy. New Orleans after Katrina level of crazy. 
    If things really do get shut down for 4-8 weeks or even longer and if supplies are hard to come by, it has that potential. 
    I’m no saying it definitely will, but the level of chaos I saw on Costco 3 days ago, pushin  and shoving, everyone acting like they are a contestant on Supermarket Sweepstakes, imagine how they will behave in a month if things get worse and no better. I don’t think that is stupidity and paranoia. 
    Yeah Asian Americans should be afraid of the Baffoon followers after all he already gave them the ammo, remember China virus said by whom!
    China's state news is telling their people that the American army are the ones that infected China...which is bullshit. So I guess Trump's trying to counter that bullshit. That said, HE shouldn't be the one to call it that. Like you said, for the sake of Chinese Americans that might be targeted. But while it might be irresponsible, it's not really xenophobic to call it a Chinese virus considering it came from China, and the virus is THEIR FAULT because it either came from one of their disgusting, inhumane street markets, or some lab fuck-up. 

    The liberal media was calling it both the "Chinese Virus" and the "Wuhan Virus" throughout January and into February. Then suddenly, they stopped, and began calling out Fox News for being xenophobic for using those terms. I wonder what changed? A desire to be "woke?" Directives from the Chinese government to stop calling it that? I could have my timeline wrong, but I think around the time that the liberal media stopped using it, was when China's state news began blaming America for it. 

    Your heart's in the right place if you're concerned for Chinese Americans. But China itself and it's government? Fuck them. This is completely their fault, and now they're trying to blame America for it. I get it, Trump sucks. But I'd rather him stick up for America than side with China in a circumstance like this. 
    Well said. +1
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mace1229 said:
    I didn’t read it the first time because when I try to read a NYT articles it always asks me to subscribe. But trying again this one didn’t for some reason. 
    None of that article seems out of the norm though.
    One guy said he’s buying a gun because his neighbor has been threatening him, nothing to do with the virus. Asian-Americans are buying more guns because people are threatening them over this virus. Both se pretty legit reasons to me.
    Gun sales always go up when people think a Democrat might be elected. I don’t always agree with that, but that is completely “normal,” factor in the person Biden says he’ll put in charge has said “he’ll yes” he’ll take assault rifles away if he is in charge. So of course assault weapons sales go up. I’ve said before sometimes Democrats can be the best thing for gun manufactures. 
    And lastly, it does cite several cases of just fear of this virus, as mentioned in the leading sentence. That seems most reasonable of all. Things are already going crazy. It’s worse than when Popeyes ran out of their sandwich. And if people get that crazy over a chicken sandwich, imagine how it will get when people go a month without toilet paper and other basics. Compound that with little to no police force, yes, this has the potential to be very crazy. New Orleans after Katrina level of crazy. 
    If things really do get shut down for 4-8 weeks or even longer and if supplies are hard to come by, it has that potential. 
    I’m no saying it definitely will, but the level of chaos I saw on Costco 3 days ago, pushin  and shoving, everyone acting like they are a contestant on Supermarket Sweepstakes, imagine how they will behave in a month if things get worse and no better. I don’t think that is stupidity and paranoia. 
    Yeah Asian Americans should be afraid of the Baffoon followers after all he already gave them the ammo, remember China virus said by whom!
    China's state news is telling their people that the American army are the ones that infected China...which is bullshit. So I guess Trump's trying to counter that bullshit. That said, HE shouldn't be the one to call it that. Like you said, for the sake of Chinese Americans that might be targeted. But while it might be irresponsible, it's not really xenophobic to call it a Chinese virus considering it came from China, and the virus is THEIR FAULT because it either came from one of their disgusting, inhumane street markets, or some lab fuck-up. 

    The liberal media was calling it both the "Chinese Virus" and the "Wuhan Virus" throughout January and into February. Then suddenly, they stopped, and began calling out Fox News for being xenophobic for using those terms. I wonder what changed? A desire to be "woke?" Directives from the Chinese government to stop calling it that? I could have my timeline wrong, but I think around the time that the liberal media stopped using it, was when China's state news began blaming America for it. 

    Your heart's in the right place if you're concerned for Chinese Americans. But China itself and it's government? Fuck them. This is completely their fault, and now they're trying to blame America for it. I get it, Trump sucks. But I'd rather him stick up for America than side with China in a circumstance like this. 
    I guess we can refer to mad cow disease as "British Mad Cow or USA Mad Cow" disease seeing how it came from their disgusting, inhumane factory farming practices?
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mace1229 said:
    I didn’t read it the first time because when I try to read a NYT articles it always asks me to subscribe. But trying again this one didn’t for some reason. 
    None of that article seems out of the norm though.
    One guy said he’s buying a gun because his neighbor has been threatening him, nothing to do with the virus. Asian-Americans are buying more guns because people are threatening them over this virus. Both se pretty legit reasons to me.
    Gun sales always go up when people think a Democrat might be elected. I don’t always agree with that, but that is completely “normal,” factor in the person Biden says he’ll put in charge has said “he’ll yes” he’ll take assault rifles away if he is in charge. So of course assault weapons sales go up. I’ve said before sometimes Democrats can be the best thing for gun manufactures. 
    And lastly, it does cite several cases of just fear of this virus, as mentioned in the leading sentence. That seems most reasonable of all. Things are already going crazy. It’s worse than when Popeyes ran out of their sandwich. And if people get that crazy over a chicken sandwich, imagine how it will get when people go a month without toilet paper and other basics. Compound that with little to no police force, yes, this has the potential to be very crazy. New Orleans after Katrina level of crazy. 
    If things really do get shut down for 4-8 weeks or even longer and if supplies are hard to come by, it has that potential. 
    I’m no saying it definitely will, but the level of chaos I saw on Costco 3 days ago, pushin  and shoving, everyone acting like they are a contestant on Supermarket Sweepstakes, imagine how they will behave in a month if things get worse and no better. I don’t think that is stupidity and paranoia. 
    Yeah Asian Americans should be afraid of the Baffoon followers after all he already gave them the ammo, remember China virus said by whom!
    China's state news is telling their people that the American army are the ones that infected China...which is bullshit. So I guess Trump's trying to counter that bullshit. That said, HE shouldn't be the one to call it that. Like you said, for the sake of Chinese Americans that might be targeted. But while it might be irresponsible, it's not really xenophobic to call it a Chinese virus considering it came from China, and the virus is THEIR FAULT because it either came from one of their disgusting, inhumane street markets, or some lab fuck-up. 

    The liberal media was calling it both the "Chinese Virus" and the "Wuhan Virus" throughout January and into February. Then suddenly, they stopped, and began calling out Fox News for being xenophobic for using those terms. I wonder what changed? A desire to be "woke?" Directives from the Chinese government to stop calling it that? I could have my timeline wrong, but I think around the time that the liberal media stopped using it, was when China's state news began blaming America for it. 

    Your heart's in the right place if you're concerned for Chinese Americans. But China itself and it's government? Fuck them. This is completely their fault, and now they're trying to blame America for it. I get it, Trump sucks. But I'd rather him stick up for America than side with China in a circumstance like this. 
    I guess we can refer to mad cow disease as "British Mad Cow or USA Mad Cow" disease seeing how it came from their disgusting, inhumane factory farming practices?
    Yeah sure, have at it. 

    Here's a good video detailing how viruses start in those Chinese markets. Check it out. It's pretty disgusting....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPpoJGYlW54
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mace1229 said:
    I didn’t read it the first time because when I try to read a NYT articles it always asks me to subscribe. But trying again this one didn’t for some reason. 
    None of that article seems out of the norm though.
    One guy said he’s buying a gun because his neighbor has been threatening him, nothing to do with the virus. Asian-Americans are buying more guns because people are threatening them over this virus. Both se pretty legit reasons to me.
    Gun sales always go up when people think a Democrat might be elected. I don’t always agree with that, but that is completely “normal,” factor in the person Biden says he’ll put in charge has said “he’ll yes” he’ll take assault rifles away if he is in charge. So of course assault weapons sales go up. I’ve said before sometimes Democrats can be the best thing for gun manufactures. 
    And lastly, it does cite several cases of just fear of this virus, as mentioned in the leading sentence. That seems most reasonable of all. Things are already going crazy. It’s worse than when Popeyes ran out of their sandwich. And if people get that crazy over a chicken sandwich, imagine how it will get when people go a month without toilet paper and other basics. Compound that with little to no police force, yes, this has the potential to be very crazy. New Orleans after Katrina level of crazy. 
    If things really do get shut down for 4-8 weeks or even longer and if supplies are hard to come by, it has that potential. 
    I’m no saying it definitely will, but the level of chaos I saw on Costco 3 days ago, pushin  and shoving, everyone acting like they are a contestant on Supermarket Sweepstakes, imagine how they will behave in a month if things get worse and no better. I don’t think that is stupidity and paranoia. 
    Yeah Asian Americans should be afraid of the Baffoon followers after all he already gave them the ammo, remember China virus said by whom!
    China's state news is telling their people that the American army are the ones that infected China...which is bullshit. So I guess Trump's trying to counter that bullshit. That said, HE shouldn't be the one to call it that. Like you said, for the sake of Chinese Americans that might be targeted. But while it might be irresponsible, it's not really xenophobic to call it a Chinese virus considering it came from China, and the virus is THEIR FAULT because it either came from one of their disgusting, inhumane street markets, or some lab fuck-up. 

    The liberal media was calling it both the "Chinese Virus" and the "Wuhan Virus" throughout January and into February. Then suddenly, they stopped, and began calling out Fox News for being xenophobic for using those terms. I wonder what changed? A desire to be "woke?" Directives from the Chinese government to stop calling it that? I could have my timeline wrong, but I think around the time that the liberal media stopped using it, was when China's state news began blaming America for it. 

    Your heart's in the right place if you're concerned for Chinese Americans. But China itself and it's government? Fuck them. This is completely their fault, and now they're trying to blame America for it. I get it, Trump sucks. But I'd rather him stick up for America than side with China in a circumstance like this. 
    I guess we can refer to mad cow disease as "British Mad Cow or USA Mad Cow" disease seeing how it came from their disgusting, inhumane factory farming practices?
    Sounds good to me.  
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mace1229 said:
    I didn’t read it the first time because when I try to read a NYT articles it always asks me to subscribe. But trying again this one didn’t for some reason. 
    None of that article seems out of the norm though.
    One guy said he’s buying a gun because his neighbor has been threatening him, nothing to do with the virus. Asian-Americans are buying more guns because people are threatening them over this virus. Both se pretty legit reasons to me.
    Gun sales always go up when people think a Democrat might be elected. I don’t always agree with that, but that is completely “normal,” factor in the person Biden says he’ll put in charge has said “he’ll yes” he’ll take assault rifles away if he is in charge. So of course assault weapons sales go up. I’ve said before sometimes Democrats can be the best thing for gun manufactures. 
    And lastly, it does cite several cases of just fear of this virus, as mentioned in the leading sentence. That seems most reasonable of all. Things are already going crazy. It’s worse than when Popeyes ran out of their sandwich. And if people get that crazy over a chicken sandwich, imagine how it will get when people go a month without toilet paper and other basics. Compound that with little to no police force, yes, this has the potential to be very crazy. New Orleans after Katrina level of crazy. 
    If things really do get shut down for 4-8 weeks or even longer and if supplies are hard to come by, it has that potential. 
    I’m no saying it definitely will, but the level of chaos I saw on Costco 3 days ago, pushin  and shoving, everyone acting like they are a contestant on Supermarket Sweepstakes, imagine how they will behave in a month if things get worse and no better. I don’t think that is stupidity and paranoia. 
    Yeah Asian Americans should be afraid of the Baffoon followers after all he already gave them the ammo, remember China virus said by whom!
    China's state news is telling their people that the American army are the ones that infected China...which is bullshit. So I guess Trump's trying to counter that bullshit. That said, HE shouldn't be the one to call it that. Like you said, for the sake of Chinese Americans that might be targeted. But while it might be irresponsible, it's not really xenophobic to call it a Chinese virus considering it came from China, and the virus is THEIR FAULT because it either came from one of their disgusting, inhumane street markets, or some lab fuck-up. 

    The liberal media was calling it both the "Chinese Virus" and the "Wuhan Virus" throughout January and into February. Then suddenly, they stopped, and began calling out Fox News for being xenophobic for using those terms. I wonder what changed? A desire to be "woke?" Directives from the Chinese government to stop calling it that? I could have my timeline wrong, but I think around the time that the liberal media stopped using it, was when China's state news began blaming America for it. 

    Your heart's in the right place if you're concerned for Chinese Americans. But China itself and it's government? Fuck them. This is completely their fault, and now they're trying to blame America for it. I get it, Trump sucks. But I'd rather him stick up for America than side with China in a circumstance like this. 
    I guess we can refer to mad cow disease as "British Mad Cow or USA Mad Cow" disease seeing how it came from their disgusting, inhumane factory farming practices?
    Yeah sure, have at it. 

    Here's a good video detailing how viruses start in those Chinese markets. Check it out. It's pretty disgusting....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

    Wow.  Thank you for posting. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Right? Crazy video. I don’t blame the folks that work in the markets. What else can they do? I blame the government. 

    What’d you think @Halifax2TheMax ?
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  • josevolution
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    The only reason the Baffoon is playing the blame game is because he’s own administration has done a shit job on all fronts of this crisis! The president should be above this but not this dirt bag..
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mace1229 said:
    I didn’t read it the first time because when I try to read a NYT articles it always asks me to subscribe. But trying again this one didn’t for some reason. 
    None of that article seems out of the norm though.
    One guy said he’s buying a gun because his neighbor has been threatening him, nothing to do with the virus. Asian-Americans are buying more guns because people are threatening them over this virus. Both se pretty legit reasons to me.
    Gun sales always go up when people think a Democrat might be elected. I don’t always agree with that, but that is completely “normal,” factor in the person Biden says he’ll put in charge has said “he’ll yes” he’ll take assault rifles away if he is in charge. So of course assault weapons sales go up. I’ve said before sometimes Democrats can be the best thing for gun manufactures. 
    And lastly, it does cite several cases of just fear of this virus, as mentioned in the leading sentence. That seems most reasonable of all. Things are already going crazy. It’s worse than when Popeyes ran out of their sandwich. And if people get that crazy over a chicken sandwich, imagine how it will get when people go a month without toilet paper and other basics. Compound that with little to no police force, yes, this has the potential to be very crazy. New Orleans after Katrina level of crazy. 
    If things really do get shut down for 4-8 weeks or even longer and if supplies are hard to come by, it has that potential. 
    I’m no saying it definitely will, but the level of chaos I saw on Costco 3 days ago, pushin  and shoving, everyone acting like they are a contestant on Supermarket Sweepstakes, imagine how they will behave in a month if things get worse and no better. I don’t think that is stupidity and paranoia. 
    Yeah Asian Americans should be afraid of the Baffoon followers after all he already gave them the ammo, remember China virus said by whom!
    China's state news is telling their people that the American army are the ones that infected China...which is bullshit. So I guess Trump's trying to counter that bullshit. That said, HE shouldn't be the one to call it that. Like you said, for the sake of Chinese Americans that might be targeted. But while it might be irresponsible, it's not really xenophobic to call it a Chinese virus considering it came from China, and the virus is THEIR FAULT because it either came from one of their disgusting, inhumane street markets, or some lab fuck-up. 

    The liberal media was calling it both the "Chinese Virus" and the "Wuhan Virus" throughout January and into February. Then suddenly, they stopped, and began calling out Fox News for being xenophobic for using those terms. I wonder what changed? A desire to be "woke?" Directives from the Chinese government to stop calling it that? I could have my timeline wrong, but I think around the time that the liberal media stopped using it, was when China's state news began blaming America for it. 

    Your heart's in the right place if you're concerned for Chinese Americans. But China itself and it's government? Fuck them. This is completely their fault, and now they're trying to blame America for it. I get it, Trump sucks. But I'd rather him stick up for America than side with China in a circumstance like this. 
    Maybe responsible media outlets stopped calling it the Wuhan virus once it had another name. The time is long past that there’s any justification  for calling it the Chinese virus other than to drum up fear and hatred. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    oftenreading said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mace1229 said:
    I didn’t read it the first time because when I try to read a NYT articles it always asks me to subscribe. But trying again this one didn’t for some reason. 
    None of that article seems out of the norm though.
    One guy said he’s buying a gun because his neighbor has been threatening him, nothing to do with the virus. Asian-Americans are buying more guns because people are threatening them over this virus. Both se pretty legit reasons to me.
    Gun sales always go up when people think a Democrat might be elected. I don’t always agree with that, but that is completely “normal,” factor in the person Biden says he’ll put in charge has said “he’ll yes” he’ll take assault rifles away if he is in charge. So of course assault weapons sales go up. I’ve said before sometimes Democrats can be the best thing for gun manufactures. 
    And lastly, it does cite several cases of just fear of this virus, as mentioned in the leading sentence. That seems most reasonable of all. Things are already going crazy. It’s worse than when Popeyes ran out of their sandwich. And if people get that crazy over a chicken sandwich, imagine how it will get when people go a month without toilet paper and other basics. Compound that with little to no police force, yes, this has the potential to be very crazy. New Orleans after Katrina level of crazy. 
    If things really do get shut down for 4-8 weeks or even longer and if supplies are hard to come by, it has that potential. 
    I’m no saying it definitely will, but the level of chaos I saw on Costco 3 days ago, pushin  and shoving, everyone acting like they are a contestant on Supermarket Sweepstakes, imagine how they will behave in a month if things get worse and no better. I don’t think that is stupidity and paranoia. 
    Yeah Asian Americans should be afraid of the Baffoon followers after all he already gave them the ammo, remember China virus said by whom!
    China's state news is telling their people that the American army are the ones that infected China...which is bullshit. So I guess Trump's trying to counter that bullshit. That said, HE shouldn't be the one to call it that. Like you said, for the sake of Chinese Americans that might be targeted. But while it might be irresponsible, it's not really xenophobic to call it a Chinese virus considering it came from China, and the virus is THEIR FAULT because it either came from one of their disgusting, inhumane street markets, or some lab fuck-up. 

    The liberal media was calling it both the "Chinese Virus" and the "Wuhan Virus" throughout January and into February. Then suddenly, they stopped, and began calling out Fox News for being xenophobic for using those terms. I wonder what changed? A desire to be "woke?" Directives from the Chinese government to stop calling it that? I could have my timeline wrong, but I think around the time that the liberal media stopped using it, was when China's state news began blaming America for it. 

    Your heart's in the right place if you're concerned for Chinese Americans. But China itself and it's government? Fuck them. This is completely their fault, and now they're trying to blame America for it. I get it, Trump sucks. But I'd rather him stick up for America than side with China in a circumstance like this. 
    Maybe responsible media outlets stopped calling it the Wuhan virus once it had another name. The time is long past that there’s any justification  for calling it the Chinese virus other than to drum up fear and hatred. 
    I don't necessarily disagree with that. But China's propaganda machine is telling their billion of citizens that we're the cause of it....to drum up fear and hatred. So from Trump's perspective, an eye-for-an-eye I guess. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    oftenreading said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    josevolution said:
    mace1229 said:
    I didn’t read it the first time because when I try to read a NYT articles it always asks me to subscribe. But trying again this one didn’t for some reason. 
    None of that article seems out of the norm though.
    One guy said he’s buying a gun because his neighbor has been threatening him, nothing to do with the virus. Asian-Americans are buying more guns because people are threatening them over this virus. Both se pretty legit reasons to me.
    Gun sales always go up when people think a Democrat might be elected. I don’t always agree with that, but that is completely “normal,” factor in the person Biden says he’ll put in charge has said “he’ll yes” he’ll take assault rifles away if he is in charge. So of course assault weapons sales go up. I’ve said before sometimes Democrats can be the best thing for gun manufactures. 
    And lastly, it does cite several cases of just fear of this virus, as mentioned in the leading sentence. That seems most reasonable of all. Things are already going crazy. It’s worse than when Popeyes ran out of their sandwich. And if people get that crazy over a chicken sandwich, imagine how it will get when people go a month without toilet paper and other basics. Compound that with little to no police force, yes, this has the potential to be very crazy. New Orleans after Katrina level of crazy. 
    If things really do get shut down for 4-8 weeks or even longer and if supplies are hard to come by, it has that potential. 
    I’m no saying it definitely will, but the level of chaos I saw on Costco 3 days ago, pushin  and shoving, everyone acting like they are a contestant on Supermarket Sweepstakes, imagine how they will behave in a month if things get worse and no better. I don’t think that is stupidity and paranoia. 
    Yeah Asian Americans should be afraid of the Baffoon followers after all he already gave them the ammo, remember China virus said by whom!
    China's state news is telling their people that the American army are the ones that infected China...which is bullshit. So I guess Trump's trying to counter that bullshit. That said, HE shouldn't be the one to call it that. Like you said, for the sake of Chinese Americans that might be targeted. But while it might be irresponsible, it's not really xenophobic to call it a Chinese virus considering it came from China, and the virus is THEIR FAULT because it either came from one of their disgusting, inhumane street markets, or some lab fuck-up. 

    The liberal media was calling it both the "Chinese Virus" and the "Wuhan Virus" throughout January and into February. Then suddenly, they stopped, and began calling out Fox News for being xenophobic for using those terms. I wonder what changed? A desire to be "woke?" Directives from the Chinese government to stop calling it that? I could have my timeline wrong, but I think around the time that the liberal media stopped using it, was when China's state news began blaming America for it. 

    Your heart's in the right place if you're concerned for Chinese Americans. But China itself and it's government? Fuck them. This is completely their fault, and now they're trying to blame America for it. I get it, Trump sucks. But I'd rather him stick up for America than side with China in a circumstance like this. 
    Maybe responsible media outlets stopped calling it the Wuhan virus once it had another name. The time is long past that there’s any justification  for calling it the Chinese virus other than to drum up fear and hatred. 
    I don't necessarily disagree with that. But China's propaganda machine is telling their billion of citizens that we're the cause of it....to drum up fear and hatred. So from Trump's perspective, an eye-for-an-eye I guess. 
    “An eye for an eye” is a stupid and infantile response that solves nothing. 

    The audience for Trump’s comments have no idea what China’s state media are saying, so even the argument that this an attempt to counteract those claims, if they even exist, is weak. I suspect Trump also has no idea what China’s state media is reporting. 
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