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mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:nvm
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mickeyrat said:mattsl1983 said:mickeyrat said:mattsl1983 said:mickeyrat said:mattsl1983 said:Interesting enough, a Chicago hospital closed its doors to taking any more er patients. The reason they were overwhelmed by gunshot victims. Why isn’t this big news and set off any bells? Doesn’t Chicago already have some of the strictest gun laws? Please correct me if I’m wrong and please tell me why this isn’t big news?stopped taking ambulance runs, had reached trauma capacity. not uncommon decision when a big event occurs. such as multivehicle pileup, mass shooting or multiple shootings as Chicago experienced over the weekend or other large scale injury event. overflow or other victims went to one of 4 other hospitals for trauma treatment.you would have seen the same in Dayton with the number of injured. Same for El Paso. That didnt exactly make the news for trauma center diversion decisions either.the fact that chicago has strict gun laws is irrelevant considering within an hour or so drive from there you can be in 3 different states with varying degrees of laxity in gun laws.
El Paso and and Dayton are an easy drive in from foreign countries. So if every district around had equally strict lawns the problem would go away? I can’t help but feel like you are rationalizing the irrational. That’s my opinion granted
I would be more interested in your solutions.who says I am a gun advocate? because I accept reality here as it is means I'm an advocate? acceptance doesnt equate to approval or agreement.you understand by diverting trauma victims from whatever type of injury(trauma meaning severe or life threatening) to other trauma centers offers the besy chance of survival dont you?where are you from anyway?
so again, you are okay with Chicago hospitals having to divert trauma victims do to being overwhelmed by gunshot victims. You see no issue with that but a mass shooting, now this is the hill you plant your flag on and are willing to die for? I call hypocrisy. With you lack of caring why and justifying why a Chicago hospital hat to divert patients because they were overwhelmed by gun violence victims and you continually argue why it’s okay. Well that shows your real hand. You strike me as an outrage monger. Reality doesn’t matter, but headlines hit hard for you. With that, I’m out of this conversation. I prefer to talk with people that are fully concerned about the violence and can debate solutions with. Not people that make excuses. I wish you the best.0 -
mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:cincybearcat said:mcgruff10 said:"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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mattsl1983 said:I prefer to talk with people that are fully concerned about the violence and can debate solutions with. Not people that make excuses.
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Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:cincybearcat said:mcgruff10 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:cincybearcat said:mcgruff10 said:0
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Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:I prefer to talk with people that are fully concerned about the violence and can debate solutions with. Not people that make excuses.0
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mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:cincybearcat said:mcgruff10 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:cincybearcat said:mcgruff10 said:"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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Joe Asks Bernie Sanders "Is There a Solution to Mass Shootings?"
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Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:cincybearcat said:mcgruff10 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:cincybearcat said:mcgruff10 said:0
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mattsl1983 said:mickeyrat said:mattsl1983 said:mickeyrat said:mattsl1983 said:mickeyrat said:mattsl1983 said:Interesting enough, a Chicago hospital closed its doors to taking any more er patients. The reason they were overwhelmed by gunshot victims. Why isn’t this big news and set off any bells? Doesn’t Chicago already have some of the strictest gun laws? Please correct me if I’m wrong and please tell me why this isn’t big news?stopped taking ambulance runs, had reached trauma capacity. not uncommon decision when a big event occurs. such as multivehicle pileup, mass shooting or multiple shootings as Chicago experienced over the weekend or other large scale injury event. overflow or other victims went to one of 4 other hospitals for trauma treatment.you would have seen the same in Dayton with the number of injured. Same for El Paso. That didnt exactly make the news for trauma center diversion decisions either.the fact that chicago has strict gun laws is irrelevant considering within an hour or so drive from there you can be in 3 different states with varying degrees of laxity in gun laws.
El Paso and and Dayton are an easy drive in from foreign countries. So if every district around had equally strict lawns the problem would go away? I can’t help but feel like you are rationalizing the irrational. That’s my opinion granted
I would be more interested in your solutions.who says I am a gun advocate? because I accept reality here as it is means I'm an advocate? acceptance doesnt equate to approval or agreement.you understand by diverting trauma victims from whatever type of injury(trauma meaning severe or life threatening) to other trauma centers offers the besy chance of survival dont you?where are you from anyway?
so again, you are okay with Chicago hospitals having to divert trauma victims do to being overwhelmed by gunshot victims. You see no issue with that but a mass shooting, now this is the hill you plant your flag on and are willing to die for? I call hypocrisy. With you lack of caring why and justifying why a Chicago hospital hat to divert patients because they were overwhelmed by gun violence victims and you continually argue why it’s okay. Well that shows your real hand. You strike me as an outrage monger. Reality doesn’t matter, but headlines hit hard for you. With that, I’m out of this conversation. I prefer to talk with people that are fully concerned about the violence and can debate solutions with. Not people that make excuses. I wish you the best.are you drunk?you start your tirade around a hospital saying we reached our limit to effectively treat these injured patients. standard operating procedure to divert.you later recognize I am not a gun advocate but in the next breath claim I am ok with this weekends events in chicago.you asking us why the media wasnt as vocal on chicago , well you're asking the wrong people.for my own sanity I have to be emotionally detached from these tragedies. they happen far too often_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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"The reality is that today as we speak there are appropriately 400 million guns in America. We have more guns than we have people."
- Bernie
"the test""Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:cincybearcat said:mcgruff10 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:cincybearcat said:mcgruff10 said:"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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Spiritual_Chaos said:"The reality is that today as we speak there are appropriately 400 million guns in America. We have more guns than we have people."
- Bernie
"the test"0 -
mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:"The reality is that today as we speak there are appropriately 400 million guns in America. We have more guns than we have people."
- Bernie
"the test"
And also, HAHA "It's in the very essence of who we are from when God created and blessed this land". HAHA
You don't think there were guns around in the 1800s in other, sane, countries?Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:"The reality is that today as we speak there are appropriately 400 million guns in America. We have more guns than we have people."
- Bernie
"the test"
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mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:"The reality is that today as we speak there are appropriately 400 million guns in America. We have more guns than we have people."
- Bernie
"the test"
There can be more discussion in a thread than yours."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:"The reality is that today as we speak there are appropriately 400 million guns in America. We have more guns than we have people."
- Bernie
"the test"
And also, HAHA "It's in the very essence of who we are from when God created and blessed this land". HAHA
You don't think there were guns around in the 1800s in other, sane, countries?0 -
mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:"The reality is that today as we speak there are appropriately 400 million guns in America. We have more guns than we have people."
- Bernie
"the test"
All that needs to be said.
I don't care about influencing you. I'm confident you are:https://youtu.be/YqDLBG0I8uI
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:"The reality is that today as we speak there are appropriately 400 million guns in America. We have more guns than we have people."
- Bernie
"the test"
There can be more discussion in a thread than yours.0 -
mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:mattsl1983 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:"The reality is that today as we speak there are appropriately 400 million guns in America. We have more guns than we have people."
- Bernie
"the test"
There can be more discussion in a thread than yours.
Is that a Warren or Sanders sticker I see on the back of your SUV?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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