America's Gun Violence
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mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:mcgruff10 said:dignin said:my2hands said:Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation
I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
Get a gun store who has the majority of sales from guns to not sell these would be a bigger statement.
Its just my opinion that it was a calculated move. I don't know the CEO of the company and don't have any reason to believe one way or another, but just knowing that CEOs and big companies are usually in it to make money (how else to you explain a hospital charging $22 for a single pill of ibuprofen?) so its my guess they thought the publicity would outweigh the sales loss.
http://www.businessinsider.com/dicks-sporting-goods-will-stop-selling-assault-rifles-2018-2
I don't know their true motives, but its clear they got a lot of publicity by doing so.
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cincybearcat said:oftenreading said:cincybearcat said:oftenreading said:dignin said:oftenreading said:my2hands said:dignin said:my2hands said:Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation
I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
The point of the tweet is simple, gun supporters thought dicks would lose business when they stopped selling certain kinds of weapons... to prove that theory wrong the tweet says their stock is up 14%... but that proves nothing of the sort
who is to say the stop on sales didnt hurt them and their profits or stock price would have gone up more than the 14% it did? Maybe if they were still selling them their stock would be up 15, 18, 25%?
The stock being up means nothing.
They have not only survived, their stock has risen, so far at least. Now, if the NRA had said "they won't make as much profit as they could have", then maybe that would be true, but that's not what they said. They predicted at the least that Dick's would not "emerge unscathed", and at worst "not survive at all", neither of which appears to be the case.
Unless the only point was only that Dick's will still make $ even if they don't sell these guns....then you only need to know how Dick's did. But again, My2hands isn't trying to be contrarian...simply pointing out what anyone that looks at investing in companies does...it's not just how they are doing, but how they are doing compared to their peers.
But a company that grows but not as fast as it's competitors will eventually fail. I personally didn't think Dick's would struggle and that I am glad they stop selling those guns. Companies are always comparing themselves to their peers. And so is the stock market.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
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oftenreading said:cincybearcat said:oftenreading said:cincybearcat said:oftenreading said:dignin said:oftenreading said:my2hands said:dignin said:my2hands said:Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation
I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
The point of the tweet is simple, gun supporters thought dicks would lose business when they stopped selling certain kinds of weapons... to prove that theory wrong the tweet says their stock is up 14%... but that proves nothing of the sort
who is to say the stop on sales didnt hurt them and their profits or stock price would have gone up more than the 14% it did? Maybe if they were still selling them their stock would be up 15, 18, 25%?
The stock being up means nothing.
They have not only survived, their stock has risen, so far at least. Now, if the NRA had said "they won't make as much profit as they could have", then maybe that would be true, but that's not what they said. They predicted at the least that Dick's would not "emerge unscathed", and at worst "not survive at all", neither of which appears to be the case.
Unless the only point was only that Dick's will still make $ even if they don't sell these guns....then you only need to know how Dick's did. But again, My2hands isn't trying to be contrarian...simply pointing out what anyone that looks at investing in companies does...it's not just how they are doing, but how they are doing compared to their peers.
But a company that grows but not as fast as it's competitors will eventually fail. I personally didn't think Dick's would struggle and that I am glad they stop selling those guns. Companies are always comparing themselves to their peers. And so is the stock market.
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oftenreading said:And yes, when I’m on my phone and busy at work, I’m not going to retype responses. Who would?
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Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:mcgruff10 said:dignin said:my2hands said:Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation
I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
Get a gun store who has the majority of sales from guns to not sell these would be a bigger statement.
Its just my opinion that it was a calculated move. I don't know the CEO of the company and don't have any reason to believe one way or another, but just knowing that CEOs and big companies are usually in it to make money (how else to you explain a hospital charging $22 for a single pill of ibuprofen?) so its my guess they thought the publicity would outweigh the sales loss.
http://www.businessinsider.com/dicks-sporting-goods-will-stop-selling-assault-rifles-2018-2
I don't know their true motives, but its clear they got a lot of publicity by doing so.
Beginning today, DICK'S Sporting Goods is committed to the following:
We will no longer sell assault-style rifles, also referred to as modern sporting rifles. We had already removed them from all DICK'S stores after the Sandy Hook massacre, but we will now remove them from sale at all 35 Field & Stream stores.
- We will no longer sell firearms to anyone under 21 years of age.
- We will no longer sell high capacity magazines.
- We never have and never will sell bump stocks that allow semi-automatic weapons to fire more rapidly.
At the same time, we implore our elected officials to enact common sense gun reform and pass the following regulations:
- Ban assault-style firearms
- Raise the minimum age to purchase firearms to 21
- Ban high capacity magazines and bump stocks
- Require universal background checks that include relevant mental health information and previous interactions with the law
- Ensure a complete universal database of those banned from buying firearms
- Close the private sale and gun show loophole that waives the necessity of background checks
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So while not banning private sales, would require them to go through a 3rd party like DIcks, who usually charge $50 for 5 minutes of paperwork.
I'm not saying its a bad idea, but I am saying gun stores do benefit from that.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
cincybearcat said:oftenreading said:And yes, when I’m on my phone and busy at work, I’m not going to retype responses. Who would?
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mace1229 said:So while not banning private sales, would require them to go through a 3rd party like DIcks, who usually charge $50 for 5 minutes of paperwork.
And the right says the left has issues with critical thinking lol
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Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:So while not banning private sales, would require them to go through a 3rd party like DIcks, who usually charge $50 for 5 minutes of paperwork.
And the right says the left has issues with critical thinking lol
What reasoning skills, or lack of are you talking about?
All I've said was that Dicks move could have been, and in my opinion probably was, based on publicity and the benefit from that.
Dicks does benefit if the private and gunshow loophole is banned and requires background checks. Its actually very simple logic. That means I could not sell a gun to a friend by myself, but have to use a third party, like Dicks, to complete the transaction. Although not technically "banning" private sales, I know you are intelligent enough (at least I've always assumed so....) to follow the conversation to understand that it means a private sale between 2 people is banned without going through a third party - and who does that financially benefit? Its like requiring me to go through a dealership if I sell my car, I'm sure the dealership would be happy about that too. In practicality that is like treating the gun store like a consignment shop, which is how many gun owners sell guns because of legal requirements in some states. At least in California, when a private party goes through a gun store for a sale, the store takes possession of the gun and deals with the buyer. Why you chose to flip everyone's words and belittle them who has a different view than you is not known to me. I never once said gun owners couldn't afford it. But gun stores benefit from it, so it is at no surprise at all to me that they would advocate for that.
I'd suggest trying to have a real conversation instead when you disagree with someone. Its much more useful.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
So far all I've said was I imagine Dicks' move was probably motivated by publicity as much has anything else. I mean, they publicly announce they won't continue to sell what they already aren't selling. Seems like a reasonable leap to me, but hey, I guess I'm bad with critical thinking so who knows.0
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mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:So while not banning private sales, would require them to go through a 3rd party like DIcks, who usually charge $50 for 5 minutes of paperwork.
And the right says the left has issues with critical thinking lol
What reasoning skills, or lack of are you talking about?
All I've said was that Dicks move could have been, and in my opinion probably was, based on publicity and the benefit from that.
Dicks does benefit if the private and gunshow loophole is banned and requires background checks. Its actually very simple logic. That means I could not sell a gun to a friend by myself, but have to use a third party, like Dicks, to complete the transaction. Although not technically "banning" private sales, I know you are intelligent enough (at least I've always assumed so....) to follow the conversation to understand that it means a private sale between 2 people is banned without going through a third party - and who does that financially benefit? Its like requiring me to go through a dealership if I sell my car, I'm sure the dealership would be happy about that too. In practicality that is like treating the gun store like a consignment shop, which is how many gun owners sell guns because of legal requirements in some states. At least in California, when a private party goes through a gun store for a sale, the store takes possession of the gun and deals with the buyer. Why you chose to flip everyone's words and belittle them who has a different view than you is not known to me. I never once said gun owners couldn't afford it. But gun stores benefit from it, so it is at no surprise at all to me that they would advocate for that.
I'd suggest trying to have a real conversation instead when you disagree with someone. Its much more useful.
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People actually think Dicks did that to "do the right thing"?
Really?
For realz?
lol, cute
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my2hands said:People actually think Dicks did that to "do the right thing"?
Really?
For realz?
lol, cute
Now, do I think the decision was calculated? Of course, No company of that size goes into decisions like that willy-nilly. I am sure a lot of staff time went into the finding that this was not going to cost them in a big way. But that doesn't mean the idea was not conceived because of doing the right thing.
And if they did do this because it was the smart decision. What does that say about the number 2A snowflakes* out there? Maybe not so big...
*And yes, if a store's decision not to sell guns stops you from buying your shoes there, you are a snowflake.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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my2hands said:People actually think Dicks did that to "do the right thing"?
Really?
For realz?
lol, cute
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HesCalledDyer said:my2hands said:People actually think Dicks did that to "do the right thing"?
Really?
For realz?
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OnWis97 said:my2hands said:People actually think Dicks did that to "do the right thing"?
Really?
For realz?
lol, cute
Now, do I think the decision was calculated? Of course, No company of that size goes into decisions like that willy-nilly. I am sure a lot of staff time went into the finding that this was not going to cost them in a big way. But that doesn't mean the idea was not conceived because of doing the right thing.
And if they did do this because it was the smart decision. What does that say about the number 2A snowflakes* out there? Maybe not so big...
*And yes, if a store's decision not to sell guns stops you from buying your shoes there, you are a snowflake.0 -
mace1229 said:OnWis97 said:my2hands said:People actually think Dicks did that to "do the right thing"?
Really?
For realz?
lol, cute
Now, do I think the decision was calculated? Of course, No company of that size goes into decisions like that willy-nilly. I am sure a lot of staff time went into the finding that this was not going to cost them in a big way. But that doesn't mean the idea was not conceived because of doing the right thing.
And if they did do this because it was the smart decision. What does that say about the number 2A snowflakes* out there? Maybe not so big...
*And yes, if a store's decision not to sell guns stops you from buying your shoes there, you are a snowflake.
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Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:So while not banning private sales, would require them to go through a 3rd party like DIcks, who usually charge $50 for 5 minutes of paperwork.
And the right says the left has issues with critical thinking lol
What reasoning skills, or lack of are you talking about?
All I've said was that Dicks move could have been, and in my opinion probably was, based on publicity and the benefit from that.
Dicks does benefit if the private and gunshow loophole is banned and requires background checks. Its actually very simple logic. That means I could not sell a gun to a friend by myself, but have to use a third party, like Dicks, to complete the transaction. Although not technically "banning" private sales, I know you are intelligent enough (at least I've always assumed so....) to follow the conversation to understand that it means a private sale between 2 people is banned without going through a third party - and who does that financially benefit? Its like requiring me to go through a dealership if I sell my car, I'm sure the dealership would be happy about that too. In practicality that is like treating the gun store like a consignment shop, which is how many gun owners sell guns because of legal requirements in some states. At least in California, when a private party goes through a gun store for a sale, the store takes possession of the gun and deals with the buyer. Why you chose to flip everyone's words and belittle them who has a different view than you is not known to me. I never once said gun owners couldn't afford it. But gun stores benefit from it, so it is at no surprise at all to me that they would advocate for that.
I'd suggest trying to have a real conversation instead when you disagree with someone. Its much more useful.
And I’m not the smartest guy in the room.
And I'll say it again, I don't think it is a bad idea for that process. I'm just pointing out that Dicks' motive was probably strategy rather than gun control. I mean they stopped selling assault rifles in 2012, but announce again last year they they are going to no longer sell assault rifles. Its like Chic-Fil-A announcing they will no longer sell beef for health reasons. Free publicity. Why not stop selling hand guns which are responsible for like 95% of gun deaths? Probably because they'd lose too much money over that.
Just like when Discovery channel said they were going to stop filming Duck Dynasty due to the dad's interview and comments that don't align with the views of Discovery channel, then when people started boycotting Discovery they started filming again.
Its my opinion of an example of a big company trying to make money by "doing the right thing/"Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:So while not banning private sales, would require them to go through a 3rd party like DIcks, who usually charge $50 for 5 minutes of paperwork.
And the right says the left has issues with critical thinking lol
What reasoning skills, or lack of are you talking about?
All I've said was that Dicks move could have been, and in my opinion probably was, based on publicity and the benefit from that.
Dicks does benefit if the private and gunshow loophole is banned and requires background checks. Its actually very simple logic. That means I could not sell a gun to a friend by myself, but have to use a third party, like Dicks, to complete the transaction. Although not technically "banning" private sales, I know you are intelligent enough (at least I've always assumed so....) to follow the conversation to understand that it means a private sale between 2 people is banned without going through a third party - and who does that financially benefit? Its like requiring me to go through a dealership if I sell my car, I'm sure the dealership would be happy about that too. In practicality that is like treating the gun store like a consignment shop, which is how many gun owners sell guns because of legal requirements in some states. At least in California, when a private party goes through a gun store for a sale, the store takes possession of the gun and deals with the buyer. Why you chose to flip everyone's words and belittle them who has a different view than you is not known to me. I never once said gun owners couldn't afford it. But gun stores benefit from it, so it is at no surprise at all to me that they would advocate for that.
I'd suggest trying to have a real conversation instead when you disagree with someone. Its much more useful.
And I’m not the smartest guy in the room.
And I'll say it again, I don't think it is a bad idea for that process. I'm just pointing out that Dicks' motive was probably strategy rather than gun control. I mean they stopped selling assault rifles in 2012, but announce again last year they they are going to no longer sell assault rifles. Its like Chic-Fil-A to announcing they will no longer sell beef for health reasons. Free publicity. Why not stop selling hand guns which are responsible for like 95% of gun deaths? Probably because they'd lose too much money over that.
Just like when Discovery channel said they were going to stop filming Duck Dynasty due to the dad's interview and comments that don't align with the views of Discovery channel, then when people started boycotting Discovery they started filming again.
Its my opinion of an example of a big company trying to make money by "doing the right thing/"my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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- 56.7K Non-Pearl Jam Discussion
- 22.2K A Moving Train
- 31.7K All Encompassing Trip
- 2.9K Technical Stuff and Help