America's Gun Violence

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  • 09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    The NRA-ILA ran an article about the news under the headline: “Hard Times for Dick's as Second Amendment Supporters Respond to Company’s Anti-Gun Bent.”

    What is becoming increasingly clear, however, is that Dick’s has inserted itself into a tight spot from which it might not emerge unscathed, if it manages to survive at all. Its business with Second Amendment supporters in particular may well grind to a halt.

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    edited October 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    The NRA-ILA ran an article about the news under the headline: “Hard Times for Dick's as Second Amendment Supporters Respond to Company’s Anti-Gun Bent.”

    What is becoming increasingly clear, however, is that Dick’s has inserted itself into a tight spot from which it might not emerge unscathed, if it manages to survive at all. Its business with Second Amendment supporters in particular may well grind to a halt.

    Cool story bro. This is all the anti 2a people have to post these days?  Yawn.
    And the tweet says nra lovers, not the nra. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    The NRA-ILA ran an article about the news under the headline: “Hard Times for Dick's as Second Amendment Supporters Respond to Company’s Anti-Gun Bent.”

    What is becoming increasingly clear, however, is that Dick’s has inserted itself into a tight spot from which it might not emerge unscathed, if it manages to survive at all. Its business with Second Amendment supporters in particular may well grind to a halt.

    Cool story bro. This is all the anti 2a people have to post these days?  Yawn.
    And the tweet says nra lovers, not the nra. 
    I'm not american. I don't care about this thing called "the second amendment" or being pro or anti it. And your countries hang up on focusing on that in a debate instead of common sense is eye-rolling.

    I'm pro common sense. I'm a common-senser. That is universal.

    In the same voice Nancy uses when she says "Screw sleep!" in A Nightmare on Elm Street" -- Screw your amendments!

     


    (I just posted an article bringing up the things you talk about. We both know, you separating "nra lovers" and "the nra" is semantics)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,825
    edited October 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    Agree. I am willing to bet it was a calculated move and they looked into how much revenue they get from assault rifles, and when they realized it was very little they thought that making a big deal about not selling them would help business even more with a lot of free advertisement from this. I doubt it had much to do with not selling assault rifles. 
    Get a gun store who has the majority of sales from guns to not sell these would be a bigger statement.
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  • mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    The NRA-ILA ran an article about the news under the headline: “Hard Times for Dick's as Second Amendment Supporters Respond to Company’s Anti-Gun Bent.”

    What is becoming increasingly clear, however, is that Dick’s has inserted itself into a tight spot from which it might not emerge unscathed, if it manages to survive at all. Its business with Second Amendment supporters in particular may well grind to a halt.

    Cool story bro. This is all the anti 2a people have to post these days?  Yawn.
    And the tweet says nra lovers, not the nra. 
    'Yawn' is a good thing!

    There hasn't been any mass slaughter in the last little while. Give it a bit of time. There'll be something else to post about soon enough. Hopefully nobody's children around here (just other people's children).
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  • Further to ^^^

    Isn't this the time to talk about sensible gun control? Isn't this the time gun advocates insist is the most appropriate for such discussion?
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  • Further to ^^^

    Isn't this the time to talk about sensible gun control? Isn't this the time gun advocates insist is the most appropriate for such discussion?
    They would except the NRA is busy with depositions and preparing for eventual indictments.
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  • cincybearcat
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    Further to ^^^

    Isn't this the time to talk about sensible gun control? Isn't this the time gun advocates insist is the most appropriate for such discussion?
    Apparently still too soon
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  • Further to ^^^

    Isn't this the time to talk about sensible gun control? Isn't this the time gun advocates insist is the most appropriate for such discussion?
    Apparently still too soon
    Apparently not. Just another “responsible” gun owner pissed they missed the sale on canned peas.

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  • Or maybe there was a dem candidate hosting a meet and greet?
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited October 2018
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    I didn't miss the point at all, you did actually...

    The point of the tweet is simple, gun supporters thought dicks would lose business when they stopped selling certain kinds of weapons... to prove that theory wrong the tweet says their stock is up 14%... but that proves nothing of the sort

    who is to say the stop on sales didnt hurt them and their profits or stock price would have gone up more than the 14% it did? Maybe if they were still selling them their stock would be up 15, 18, 25%? 

    The stock being up means nothing. 
    Post edited by my2hands on
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,830
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    I didn't miss the point at all, you did actually...

    The point of the tweet is simple, gun supporters thought dicks would lose business when they stopped selling certain kinds of weapons... to prove that theory wrong the tweet says their stock is up 14%... but that proves nothing of the sort

    who is to say the stop on sales didnt hurt them and their profits or stock price would have gone up more than the 14% it did? Maybe if they were still selling them their stock would be up 15, 18, 25%? 

    The stock being up means nothing. 
    True. Have to compare how others in the same market are doing in same time frame.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    I didn't miss the point at all, you did actually...

    The point of the tweet is simple, gun supporters thought dicks would lose business when they stopped selling certain kinds of weapons... to prove that theory wrong the tweet says their stock is up 14%... but that proves nothing of the sort

    who is to say the stop on sales didnt hurt them and their profits or stock price would have gone up more than the 14% it did? Maybe if they were still selling them their stock would be up 15, 18, 25%? 

    The stock being up means nothing. 
    The NRA specifically said "What is becoming increasingly clear, however, is that Dick’s has inserted itself into a tight spot from which it might not emerge unscathed, if it manages to survive at all."

    They have not only survived, their stock has risen, so far at least. Now, if the NRA had said "they won't make as much profit as they could have", then maybe that would be true, but that's not what they said. They predicted at the least that Dick's would not "emerge unscathed", and at worst "not survive at all", neither of which appears to be the case. 
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    I didn't miss the point at all, you did actually...

    The point of the tweet is simple, gun supporters thought dicks would lose business when they stopped selling certain kinds of weapons... to prove that theory wrong the tweet says their stock is up 14%... but that proves nothing of the sort

    who is to say the stop on sales didnt hurt them and their profits or stock price would have gone up more than the 14% it did? Maybe if they were still selling them their stock would be up 15, 18, 25%? 

    The stock being up means nothing. 
    Whoosh again! 

    Give it another read, maybe the third time lucky?
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    I didn't miss the point at all, you did actually...

    The point of the tweet is simple, gun supporters thought dicks would lose business when they stopped selling certain kinds of weapons... to prove that theory wrong the tweet says their stock is up 14%... but that proves nothing of the sort

    who is to say the stop on sales didnt hurt them and their profits or stock price would have gone up more than the 14% it did? Maybe if they were still selling them their stock would be up 15, 18, 25%? 

    The stock being up means nothing. 
    The NRA specifically said "What is becoming increasingly clear, however, is that Dick’s has inserted itself into a tight spot from which it might not emerge unscathed, if it manages to survive at all."

    They have not only survived, their stock has risen, so far at least. Now, if the NRA had said "they won't make as much profit as they could have", then maybe that would be true, but that's not what they said. They predicted at the least that Dick's would not "emerge unscathed", and at worst "not survive at all", neither of which appears to be the case. 
    Haha. I don't know why you bother, captain contrarian has to be trolling at this point right? The point was so damn clear.
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