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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,883
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    The NRA-ILA ran an article about the news under the headline: “Hard Times for Dick's as Second Amendment Supporters Respond to Company’s Anti-Gun Bent.”

    What is becoming increasingly clear, however, is that Dick’s has inserted itself into a tight spot from which it might not emerge unscathed, if it manages to survive at all. Its business with Second Amendment supporters in particular may well grind to a halt.

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,883
    edited October 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    The NRA-ILA ran an article about the news under the headline: “Hard Times for Dick's as Second Amendment Supporters Respond to Company’s Anti-Gun Bent.”

    What is becoming increasingly clear, however, is that Dick’s has inserted itself into a tight spot from which it might not emerge unscathed, if it manages to survive at all. Its business with Second Amendment supporters in particular may well grind to a halt.

    Cool story bro. This is all the anti 2a people have to post these days?  Yawn.
    And the tweet says nra lovers, not the nra. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    The NRA-ILA ran an article about the news under the headline: “Hard Times for Dick's as Second Amendment Supporters Respond to Company’s Anti-Gun Bent.”

    What is becoming increasingly clear, however, is that Dick’s has inserted itself into a tight spot from which it might not emerge unscathed, if it manages to survive at all. Its business with Second Amendment supporters in particular may well grind to a halt.

    Cool story bro. This is all the anti 2a people have to post these days?  Yawn.
    And the tweet says nra lovers, not the nra. 
    I'm not american. I don't care about this thing called "the second amendment" or being pro or anti it. And your countries hang up on focusing on that in a debate instead of common sense is eye-rolling.

    I'm pro common sense. I'm a common-senser. That is universal.

    In the same voice Nancy uses when she says "Screw sleep!" in A Nightmare on Elm Street" -- Screw your amendments!

     


    (I just posted an article bringing up the things you talk about. We both know, you separating "nra lovers" and "the nra" is semantics)
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,008
    edited October 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    Agree. I am willing to bet it was a calculated move and they looked into how much revenue they get from assault rifles, and when they realized it was very little they thought that making a big deal about not selling them would help business even more with a lot of free advertisement from this. I doubt it had much to do with not selling assault rifles. 
    Get a gun store who has the majority of sales from guns to not sell these would be a bigger statement.
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    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    The NRA-ILA ran an article about the news under the headline: “Hard Times for Dick's as Second Amendment Supporters Respond to Company’s Anti-Gun Bent.”

    What is becoming increasingly clear, however, is that Dick’s has inserted itself into a tight spot from which it might not emerge unscathed, if it manages to survive at all. Its business with Second Amendment supporters in particular may well grind to a halt.

    Cool story bro. This is all the anti 2a people have to post these days?  Yawn.
    And the tweet says nra lovers, not the nra. 
    'Yawn' is a good thing!

    There hasn't been any mass slaughter in the last little while. Give it a bit of time. There'll be something else to post about soon enough. Hopefully nobody's children around here (just other people's children).
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    Further to ^^^

    Isn't this the time to talk about sensible gun control? Isn't this the time gun advocates insist is the most appropriate for such discussion?
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    Further to ^^^

    Isn't this the time to talk about sensible gun control? Isn't this the time gun advocates insist is the most appropriate for such discussion?
    They would except the NRA is busy with depositions and preparing for eventual indictments.
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    Further to ^^^

    Isn't this the time to talk about sensible gun control? Isn't this the time gun advocates insist is the most appropriate for such discussion?
    Apparently still too soon
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    Further to ^^^

    Isn't this the time to talk about sensible gun control? Isn't this the time gun advocates insist is the most appropriate for such discussion?
    Apparently still too soon
    Apparently not. Just another “responsible” gun owner pissed they missed the sale on canned peas.

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    Or maybe there was a dem candidate hosting a meet and greet?
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited October 2018
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    I didn't miss the point at all, you did actually...

    The point of the tweet is simple, gun supporters thought dicks would lose business when they stopped selling certain kinds of weapons... to prove that theory wrong the tweet says their stock is up 14%... but that proves nothing of the sort

    who is to say the stop on sales didnt hurt them and their profits or stock price would have gone up more than the 14% it did? Maybe if they were still selling them their stock would be up 15, 18, 25%? 

    The stock being up means nothing. 
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    I didn't miss the point at all, you did actually...

    The point of the tweet is simple, gun supporters thought dicks would lose business when they stopped selling certain kinds of weapons... to prove that theory wrong the tweet says their stock is up 14%... but that proves nothing of the sort

    who is to say the stop on sales didnt hurt them and their profits or stock price would have gone up more than the 14% it did? Maybe if they were still selling them their stock would be up 15, 18, 25%? 

    The stock being up means nothing. 
    True. Have to compare how others in the same market are doing in same time frame.
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,826
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    I didn't miss the point at all, you did actually...

    The point of the tweet is simple, gun supporters thought dicks would lose business when they stopped selling certain kinds of weapons... to prove that theory wrong the tweet says their stock is up 14%... but that proves nothing of the sort

    who is to say the stop on sales didnt hurt them and their profits or stock price would have gone up more than the 14% it did? Maybe if they were still selling them their stock would be up 15, 18, 25%? 

    The stock being up means nothing. 
    The NRA specifically said "What is becoming increasingly clear, however, is that Dick’s has inserted itself into a tight spot from which it might not emerge unscathed, if it manages to survive at all."

    They have not only survived, their stock has risen, so far at least. Now, if the NRA had said "they won't make as much profit as they could have", then maybe that would be true, but that's not what they said. They predicted at the least that Dick's would not "emerge unscathed", and at worst "not survive at all", neither of which appears to be the case. 
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    I didn't miss the point at all, you did actually...

    The point of the tweet is simple, gun supporters thought dicks would lose business when they stopped selling certain kinds of weapons... to prove that theory wrong the tweet says their stock is up 14%... but that proves nothing of the sort

    who is to say the stop on sales didnt hurt them and their profits or stock price would have gone up more than the 14% it did? Maybe if they were still selling them their stock would be up 15, 18, 25%? 

    The stock being up means nothing. 
    Whoosh again! 

    Give it another read, maybe the third time lucky?
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    I didn't miss the point at all, you did actually...

    The point of the tweet is simple, gun supporters thought dicks would lose business when they stopped selling certain kinds of weapons... to prove that theory wrong the tweet says their stock is up 14%... but that proves nothing of the sort

    who is to say the stop on sales didnt hurt them and their profits or stock price would have gone up more than the 14% it did? Maybe if they were still selling them their stock would be up 15, 18, 25%? 

    The stock being up means nothing. 
    The NRA specifically said "What is becoming increasingly clear, however, is that Dick’s has inserted itself into a tight spot from which it might not emerge unscathed, if it manages to survive at all."

    They have not only survived, their stock has risen, so far at least. Now, if the NRA had said "they won't make as much profit as they could have", then maybe that would be true, but that's not what they said. They predicted at the least that Dick's would not "emerge unscathed", and at worst "not survive at all", neither of which appears to be the case. 
    Haha. I don't know why you bother, captain contrarian has to be trolling at this point right? The point was so damn clear.
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    If you outlaw bombs, only outlaws will have bombs

    Am I doing it right?
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,826
    CM189191 said:
    If you outlaw bombs, only outlaws will have bombs

    Am I doing it right?

    Can I have a bomb, please?

    I probably didn't do that right ;)
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    My right to a bomb is enshrined in the constitution as afterall what is a bomb but an arm, of which my right to possess and bear shall not be infringed, to provide for the common defense. 
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,242
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    Agree. I am willing to bet it was a calculated move and they looked into how much revenue they get from assault rifles, and when they realized it was very little they thought that making a big deal about not selling them would help business even more with a lot of free advertisement from this. I doubt it had much to do with not selling assault rifles. 
    Get a gun store who has the majority of sales from guns to not sell these would be a bigger statement.
    Did you even read the article? Sure, Dick's sells a lot of different products besides guns, but the wager made by the pro-gun crowd was that they'd lose business not only from those wanting to buy those guns, but anyone in support of 2A. You know, the whole boycott thing. Not only that, but several gun manufacturers cut their ties altogether and publicly voiced their displeasure.

    All that tweet is pointing out is that the bogus claims made back when this story broke is that it could spell the store's demise, especially since they had just reported a 6% loss in the 1st quarter. It didn't.

    The pro gun crowd sure gets defensive when someone even tries to point out that someone was wrong about their prediction for a business pulling out of the gun trade. You'd think you guys had a vested interest in trying to downplay anything that makes 2A-ers look bad, even little stuff like this. Weird.
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    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    Agree. I am willing to bet it was a calculated move and they looked into how much revenue they get from assault rifles, and when they realized it was very little they thought that making a big deal about not selling them would help business even more with a lot of free advertisement from this. I doubt it had much to do with not selling assault rifles. 
    Get a gun store who has the majority of sales from guns to not sell these would be a bigger statement.
    Because it’s really all about making a “statement?” Didn’t Colt firearms recently go out of business? Or was it Remington? Any tariffs on those manufacturing businesses yet? 
     
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    tbergs said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    Agree. I am willing to bet it was a calculated move and they looked into how much revenue they get from assault rifles, and when they realized it was very little they thought that making a big deal about not selling them would help business even more with a lot of free advertisement from this. I doubt it had much to do with not selling assault rifles. 
    Get a gun store who has the majority of sales from guns to not sell these would be a bigger statement.
    Did you even read the article? Sure, Dick's sells a lot of different products besides guns, but the wager made by the pro-gun crowd was that they'd lose business not only from those wanting to buy those guns, but anyone in support of 2A. You know, the whole boycott thing. Not only that, but several gun manufacturers cut their ties altogether and publicly voiced their displeasure.

    All that tweet is pointing out is that the bogus claims made back when this story broke is that it could spell the store's demise, especially since they had just reported a 6% loss in the 1st quarter. It didn't.

    The pro gun crowd sure gets defensive when someone even tries to point out that someone was wrong about their prediction for a business pulling out of the gun trade. You'd think you guys had a vested interest in trying to downplay anything that makes 2A-ers look bad, even little stuff like this. Weird.
    Yes. Gun fans were going to go elsewhere for their running shoes, baseball gloves, golf clubs, and soccer balls.  It was never about the lost revenue from the guns themselves.

    And while I am not equipped to nitpick whether the overall effect has been positive or negative, the predictions of the company’s demise are not looking great. Maybe it turns out that there aren’t as many people obsessed with 2A over stuff that doesn’t actually threaten 2A as the NRA thought.  Come to think of it, this is the most encouraging thing I’ve seen about Americans in a while.
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
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    Am I missing something?
    The downward spiraling trend seems to be holding steady.  Not sure a 14% bump is anything to cheer about.  They have been treading water for a while now.  Not sure the refusal to sell these guns hurt them as it seems they weren’t selling much in the first place.  Does not seem like it helped them either...
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,008
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    Agree. I am willing to bet it was a calculated move and they looked into how much revenue they get from assault rifles, and when they realized it was very little they thought that making a big deal about not selling them would help business even more with a lot of free advertisement from this. I doubt it had much to do with not selling assault rifles. 
    Get a gun store who has the majority of sales from guns to not sell these would be a bigger statement.
    Because it’s really all about making a “statement?” Didn’t Colt firearms recently go out of business? Or was it Remington? Any tariffs on those manufacturing businesses yet? 
     
    My point was that I doubt this move by Dicks was probably not about not selling assault rifles, but more about publicity and whats better for business. Don't know about Colt, but Remington filed for bankruptcy, but i still in business.
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    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    Agree. I am willing to bet it was a calculated move and they looked into how much revenue they get from assault rifles, and when they realized it was very little they thought that making a big deal about not selling them would help business even more with a lot of free advertisement from this. I doubt it had much to do with not selling assault rifles. 
    Get a gun store who has the majority of sales from guns to not sell these would be a bigger statement.
    Because it’s really all about making a “statement?” Didn’t Colt firearms recently go out of business? Or was it Remington? Any tariffs on those manufacturing businesses yet? 
     
    My point was that I doubt this move by Dicks was probably not about not selling assault rifles, but more about publicity and whats better for business. Don't know about Colt, but Remington filed for bankruptcy, but i still in business.
    Couldn’t it also be as likely as to be about not wanting to be associated with the potential next mass killing and thus, being part of the solution rather than part of the problem?
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,008
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    Agree. I am willing to bet it was a calculated move and they looked into how much revenue they get from assault rifles, and when they realized it was very little they thought that making a big deal about not selling them would help business even more with a lot of free advertisement from this. I doubt it had much to do with not selling assault rifles. 
    Get a gun store who has the majority of sales from guns to not sell these would be a bigger statement.
    Because it’s really all about making a “statement?” Didn’t Colt firearms recently go out of business? Or was it Remington? Any tariffs on those manufacturing businesses yet? 
     
    My point was that I doubt this move by Dicks was probably not about not selling assault rifles, but more about publicity and whats better for business. Don't know about Colt, but Remington filed for bankruptcy, but i still in business.
    Couldn’t it also be as likely as to be about not wanting to be associated with the potential next mass killing and thus, being part of the solution rather than part of the problem?
    Absolutely it could be. 
    Its just my opinion that it was a calculated move. I don't know the CEO of the company and don't have any reason to believe one way or another, but just knowing that CEOs and big companies are usually in it to make money (how else to you explain a hospital charging $22 for a single pill of ibuprofen?) so its my guess they thought the publicity would outweigh the sales loss.
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    tbergs said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Who's to say it wouldn't be 15% or more if they sold assault rifles? This proves zero correlation 
    Whoosh! You missed the point. Go back and read the tweet again.

     I guess when you're in a hurry to be captain contrarian you miss the details.
    It is a pretty dumb tweet to be honest.  NRA lovers?  Yes I am sure some people said that but no one in their right mind thought dick s would go out of business. The sale “Assault weapons” I assume were not a huge part of their business. 

    Agree. I am willing to bet it was a calculated move and they looked into how much revenue they get from assault rifles, and when they realized it was very little they thought that making a big deal about not selling them would help business even more with a lot of free advertisement from this. I doubt it had much to do with not selling assault rifles. 
    Get a gun store who has the majority of sales from guns to not sell these would be a bigger statement.
    Did you even read the article? Sure, Dick's sells a lot of different products besides guns, but the wager made by the pro-gun crowd was that they'd lose business not only from those wanting to buy those guns, but anyone in support of 2A. You know, the whole boycott thing. Not only that, but several gun manufacturers cut their ties altogether and publicly voiced their displeasure.

    All that tweet is pointing out is that the bogus claims made back when this story broke is that it could spell the store's demise, especially since they had just reported a 6% loss in the 1st quarter. It didn't.

    The pro gun crowd sure gets defensive when someone even tries to point out that someone was wrong about their prediction for a business pulling out of the gun trade. You'd think you guys had a vested interest in trying to downplay anything that makes 2A-ers look bad, even little stuff like this. Weird.
    Not sure what article you are referring to, can't remember where I got a link to the article I did read. But I did read one that also stated Dicks stopped selling guns in 2012, so their claim to no longer sell them last year didnt really apply to but about a dozen or so sister stores under the name Field and Stream. So again, why I think it was more about publicity that anything else. And thats just my opinion, I don't really know.
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