America's Gun Violence

rgambs

Godfather. said:

mickeyrat said:

Godfather. said:

joseph33 said:

Can anybody guess Hitler's first order of business when he become chancellor in 1933?

he took the guns away and left a country defenseless.

Godfather.

read this. theres a link in there that I cant c/p here.

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/11/stop_talking_about_hitler/

cool read, how respectable is the source ? I don't doubt the info at all it's just quite a turn around from learned history.

Godfather.

Hahaha you are confusing "learned history" with "bullshit gun nutters made up".

Godfather.

rgambs said:

Godfather. said:

mickeyrat said:

Godfather. said:

joseph33 said:

Can anybody guess Hitler's first order of business when he become chancellor in 1933?

he took the guns away and left a country defenseless.

Godfather.

read this. theres a link in there that I cant c/p here.

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/11/stop_talking_about_hitler/

cool read, how respectable is the source ? I don't doubt the info at all it's just quite a turn around from learned history.

Godfather.

Hahaha you are confusing "learned history" with "bullshit gun nutters made up".

prove that please.

Godfather.

Godfather.

Degeneratefk said:

Godfather. said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Godfather. said:

Degeneratefk said:

You people are so chicken shit scared of something nobody is even pushing for.

wrong.......pay attention, I don't want to lose the right to buy and own an AR-15 or any model rifle or any semi-automatic weapon including
semi auto pistols.

Godfather.

And your neighbor should have the right to own a tiger or a grizzly bear. They're safe if raised by a responsible owner. Who are we to say what the next person should or shouldn't have as a pet?

sometimes I just shake my head and wonder how do some people even continue to exists with the low level of common sense displayed
on social media boards, PJ_Soul.......really ???? and Degeneratefk .....new there's an intelligent statement, you've done it again ol'boy !
and Thirty,,,please man ....a tiger or a bear ? I need some coffee it's too early for the non-sense on this topic.

Godfather.

You wonder how people exist by not wanting civilians to have access to military grade weapons? Really? It's hard to wonder why people don't want guys to be able to buy hand grenades, tanks, machine guns, and bombs?

To put your mind at ease and prevent you from wondering, im existing just fine. I can't speak for the others you claim have no common sense.

and there in lays the proof my good man, at what point did say civilians need to own bombs ? or even tanks ? and hand grenades ????
when you're trying to defend your position on any topic it's probably not a bad Idea to NOT add words to another's statement.
and I'm glad you are fine and I wish you all the best.

Godfather.

Degeneratefk

Godfather. said:

Degeneratefk said:

Godfather. said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Godfather. said:

Degeneratefk said:

You people are so chicken shit scared of something nobody is even pushing for.

wrong.......pay attention, I don't want to lose the right to buy and own an AR-15 or any model rifle or any semi-automatic weapon including
semi auto pistols.

Godfather.

And your neighbor should have the right to own a tiger or a grizzly bear. They're safe if raised by a responsible owner. Who are we to say what the next person should or shouldn't have as a pet?

sometimes I just shake my head and wonder how do some people even continue to exists with the low level of common sense displayed
on social media boards, PJ_Soul.......really ???? and Degeneratefk .....new there's an intelligent statement, you've done it again ol'boy !
and Thirty,,,please man ....a tiger or a bear ? I need some coffee it's too early for the non-sense on this topic.

Godfather.

You wonder how people exist by not wanting civilians to have access to military grade weapons? Really? It's hard to wonder why people don't want guys to be able to buy hand grenades, tanks, machine guns, and bombs?

To put your mind at ease and prevent you from wondering, im existing just fine. I can't speak for the others you claim have no common sense.

and there in lays the proof my good man, at what point did say civilians need to own bombs ? or even tanks ? and hand grenades ????
when you're trying to defend your position on any topic it's probably not a bad Idea to NOT add words to another's statement.
and I'm glad you are fine and I wish you all the best.

Godfather.

No sir, you did not mention grenades and tanks. But im not just debating you.

josevolution

Godfather. said:

Jose I realize your a Clinton supporter or anti Trump so let's pretend for a moment that this is not a election year and discuss your idea's and feelings on gun ownership, do you believe in the right to own a gun ? if so are willing to stand up for that right ?

Godfather.

No you can have your guns it's your right I would never oppose that , I'm anti Trump hell yes anti massacres hell yeah , anti bigotry hell yes anti hate hell yeah , so what rights are you willing to stand for ...not pro Clinton by the way ! Get this thru your head I'm ANTI TRUMP !

rgambs

Godfather. said:

rgambs said:

Godfather. said:

mickeyrat said:

Godfather. said:

joseph33 said:

Can anybody guess Hitler's first order of business when he become chancellor in 1933?

he took the guns away and left a country defenseless.

Godfather.

read this. theres a link in there that I cant c/p here.

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/11/stop_talking_about_hitler/

cool read, how respectable is the source ? I don't doubt the info at all it's just quite a turn around from learned history.

Godfather.

Hahaha you are confusing "learned history" with "bullshit gun nutters made up".

prove that please.

Godfather.

I can't prove what you were taught and consider as learned history, I can only point to sources that show the inaccuracies of the NRA's misinformation.

HughFreakingDillon

Godfather. said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Godfather. said:

Degeneratefk said:

You people are so chicken shit scared of something nobody is even pushing for.

wrong.......pay attention, I don't want to lose the right to buy and own an AR-15 or any model rifle or any semi-automatic weapon including
semi auto pistols.

Godfather.

And your neighbor should have the right to own a tiger or a grizzly bear. They're safe if raised by a responsible owner. Who are we to say what the next person should or shouldn't have as a pet?

sometimes I just shake my head and wonder how do some people even continue to exists with the low level of common sense displayed
on social media boards, PJ_Soul.......really ???? and Degeneratefk .....new there's an intelligent statement, you've done it again ol'boy !
and Thirty,,,please man ....a tiger or a bear ? I need some coffee it's too early for the non-sense on this topic.

Godfather.

there just no words. no words whatsoever.

Degeneratefk

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Godfather. said:

Degeneratefk said:

You people are so chicken shit scared of something nobody is even pushing for.

wrong.......pay attention, I don't want to lose the right to buy and own an AR-15 or any model rifle or any semi-automatic weapon including
semi auto pistols.

Godfather.

And your neighbor should have the right to own a tiger or a grizzly bear. They're safe if raised by a responsible owner. Who are we to say what the next person should or shouldn't have as a pet?

sometimes I just shake my head and wonder how do some people even continue to exists with the low level of common sense displayed
on social media boards, PJ_Soul.......really ???? and Degeneratefk .....new there's an intelligent statement, you've done it again ol'boy !
and Thirty,,,please man ....a tiger or a bear ? I need some coffee it's too early for the non-sense on this topic.

Godfather.

there just no words. no words whatsoever.

Must be because of our low level of common sense.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Godfather. said:

Degeneratefk said:

You people are so chicken shit scared of something nobody is even pushing for.

wrong.......pay attention, I don't want to lose the right to buy and own an AR-15 or any model rifle or any semi-automatic weapon including
semi auto pistols.

Godfather.

And your neighbor should have the right to own a tiger or a grizzly bear. They're safe if raised by a responsible owner. Who are we to say what the next person should or shouldn't have as a pet?

sometimes I just shake my head and wonder how do some people even continue to exists with the low level of common sense displayed
on social media boards, PJ_Soul.......really ???? and Degeneratefk .....new there's an intelligent statement, you've done it again ol'boy !
and Thirty,,,please man ....a tiger or a bear ? I need some coffee it's too early for the non-sense on this topic.

Godfather.

there just no words. no words whatsoever.

Kinda funny actually. Kinda sad too.

dudeman

Degeneratefk said:

dudeman said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

It's not false at all.

How is it not false if it's never been proposed and no one is advocating for such a thing, particularly not those who have any kind of impact on the matter?

Diane Feinstein, Michael Bloomberg, Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton have all expressed interest in confiscation of privately owned firearms.

The list is longer than those four.

I don't remember hearing that from Hilary. Or Bloomberg. Can you cite that?

Clinton posits that we should look at Great Britain and Australia as a model for gun control. What did they do? Mandatory buyback and surrender programs.

Bloomberg, the same time he was catching flak for listing Tamarlan Zsarnaev as a victim of gun violence.

Degeneratefk

dudeman said:

Degeneratefk said:

dudeman said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

It's not false at all.

How is it not false if it's never been proposed and no one is advocating for such a thing, particularly not those who have any kind of impact on the matter?

Diane Feinstein, Michael Bloomberg, Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton have all expressed interest in confiscation of privately owned firearms.

The list is longer than those four.

I don't remember hearing that from Hilary. Or Bloomberg. Can you cite that?

Clinton posits that we should look at Great Britain and Australia as a model for gun control. What did they do? Mandatory buyback and surrender programs.

Bloomberg, the same time he was catching flak for listing Tamarlan Zsarnaev as a victim of gun violence.

Ok, can you cite where you read or heard that? I do not recall reading that.

dudeman

josevolution said:

Godfather. said:

pjhawks said:

Godfather. said:

A Minneapolis gun buyback program targeting weapons used in street crimes may be shooting blanks, as detractors said a Saturday collection mostly took in antiquated, unused or homemade arms from legal owners and did little to thin the firearm supply actually available to dangerous criminals.

Two Minneapolis locations collected about 150 firearms Saturday, but both exchanges were forced to shut down several hours early when officials ran out of Visa gift cards – $25,000 worth, The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported.

And at least some of that money helped finance the purchase of even more guns.

One anonymous gun owner told WCCO he received $200 in gift cards that he planned to use to buy a new firearm. That man said he didn’t think the program was serving its intended purpose.

“I just don’t feel that a criminal is going to come up to a fire department with a bunch of police around it and turn in a gun,” he said.

Paul Joat, an area gun collector, told The Star Tribune he bought two weapons on the street, ostensibly offering the sellers a better deal than the city could.

“A lot of what I’m seeing is gun nuts turning in their guns for more than they’re worth,” he said.

A commenter on the Minnesota Gun Talk message board noted that “every single person in line was one of us.”

The lure of a Visa gift card worth between $15 and $300 was enough to make some enterprising Minnesotans get creative.

One person constructed a “shotgun” out of a piece of wood, some tape and a pipe. They were given a $100 gift card for the contraption, according to a Facebook post from the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus.

Guns gathered during the Saturday buyback were set to be decommissioned and used in an art piece.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/08/29/minnesota-gun-buyback-program-dud-some-legal-owners-say.html

like I keep saying, taking guns from responsible people is just stupid and so is adding more gun control laws

Godfather.

was the guy who constructed a gun out of wood and tape 'responsible' too?

and just because you and others keep saying people want to take your guns away no one is advocating that. no one is coming into your homes to take them away. just false rhertoric.

they want to ban AR-15's and other gun's they call "assault" weapons in fact one goof ball want's to ban all semi automatic weapons
sorry I cant remember who that is I was reading about it last week somewhere.
also Hillary would like nothing more than to destroy our 2nd amendment ....I don't care what kind of nonsense she spews during her campaign, and wood and tape gun ? someone who saw a great opportunity to take advantage of stupid idea and they fell for it LOL !!

Godfather.

Really she wants to destroy the 2nd amendment, like abolish it how would she accomplish that?

By appointing a SCJ that will shift the majority opinion. She said she plans on doing that and having Heller and McDonald reheard. The idea is to take the right to bear arms away from the individual.

She said she plans to do this her first day in office.

dudeman

Degeneratefk said:

dudeman said:

Degeneratefk said:

dudeman said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

It's not false at all.

How is it not false if it's never been proposed and no one is advocating for such a thing, particularly not those who have any kind of impact on the matter?

Diane Feinstein, Michael Bloomberg, Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton have all expressed interest in confiscation of privately owned firearms.

The list is longer than those four.

I don't remember hearing that from Hilary. Or Bloomberg. Can you cite that?

Clinton posits that we should look at Great Britain and Australia as a model for gun control. What did they do? Mandatory buyback and surrender programs.

Bloomberg, the same time he was catching flak for listing Tamarlan Zsarnaev as a victim of gun violence.

Ok, can you cite where you read or heard that? I do not recall reading that.

I don't have the link but it was from a campaign speech she gave a couple months ago.

jeffbr

dudeman said:

Degeneratefk said:

dudeman said:

Degeneratefk said:

dudeman said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

It's not false at all.

How is it not false if it's never been proposed and no one is advocating for such a thing, particularly not those who have any kind of impact on the matter?

Diane Feinstein, Michael Bloomberg, Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton have all expressed interest in confiscation of privately owned firearms.

The list is longer than those four.

I don't remember hearing that from Hilary. Or Bloomberg. Can you cite that?

Clinton posits that we should look at Great Britain and Australia as a model for gun control. What did they do? Mandatory buyback and surrender programs.

Bloomberg, the same time he was catching flak for listing Tamarlan Zsarnaev as a victim of gun violence.

Ok, can you cite where you read or heard that? I do not recall reading that.

I don't have the link but it was from a campaign speech she gave a couple months ago.

http://reason.com/archives/2016/05/10/hillary-clinton-picks-a-doomed-fight-wit
"Australia is a good example" Clinton told an audience a few months ago. "The Australian government, as part of trying to clamp down on the availability of automatic weapons, offered a good price for buying hundreds of thousands of guns. Then, they basically clamped down, going forward."

Degeneratefk

jeffbr said:

dudeman said:

Degeneratefk said:

dudeman said:

Degeneratefk said:

dudeman said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

It's not false at all.

How is it not false if it's never been proposed and no one is advocating for such a thing, particularly not those who have any kind of impact on the matter?

Diane Feinstein, Michael Bloomberg, Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton have all expressed interest in confiscation of privately owned firearms.

The list is longer than those four.

I don't remember hearing that from Hilary. Or Bloomberg. Can you cite that?

Clinton posits that we should look at Great Britain and Australia as a model for gun control. What did they do? Mandatory buyback and surrender programs.

Bloomberg, the same time he was catching flak for listing Tamarlan Zsarnaev as a victim of gun violence.

Ok, can you cite where you read or heard that? I do not recall reading that.

I don't have the link but it was from a campaign speech she gave a couple months ago.

http://reason.com/archives/2016/05/10/hillary-clinton-picks-a-doomed-fight-wit
"Australia is a good example" Clinton told an audience a few months ago. "The Australian government, as part of trying to clamp down on the availability of automatic weapons, offered a good price for buying hundreds of thousands of guns. Then, they basically clamped down, going forward."

If that's your argument that Clinton wants to repeal the second amendment, you may have more work to do.

jeffbr

Degeneratefk said:

jeffbr said:

dudeman said:

Degeneratefk said:

dudeman said:

Degeneratefk said:

dudeman said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

It's not false at all.

How is it not false if it's never been proposed and no one is advocating for such a thing, particularly not those who have any kind of impact on the matter?

Diane Feinstein, Michael Bloomberg, Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton have all expressed interest in confiscation of privately owned firearms.

The list is longer than those four.

I don't remember hearing that from Hilary. Or Bloomberg. Can you cite that?

Clinton posits that we should look at Great Britain and Australia as a model for gun control. What did they do? Mandatory buyback and surrender programs.

Bloomberg, the same time he was catching flak for listing Tamarlan Zsarnaev as a victim of gun violence.

Ok, can you cite where you read or heard that? I do not recall reading that.

I don't have the link but it was from a campaign speech she gave a couple months ago.

http://reason.com/archives/2016/05/10/hillary-clinton-picks-a-doomed-fight-wit
"Australia is a good example" Clinton told an audience a few months ago. "The Australian government, as part of trying to clamp down on the availability of automatic weapons, offered a good price for buying hundreds of thousands of guns. Then, they basically clamped down, going forward."

If that's your argument that Clinton wants to repeal the second amendment, you may have more work to do.

It's not my argument. I was simply responding to the bolded part above. It doesn't matter much to me. I have a couple of guns, but am not a gun nut. I shoot targets may once a year. I would ignore any law calling for guns to be turned in, much like Australia has (according to the article, they have about 19% - 20% compliance). It wouldn't really change anything for me. I wouldn't shoot any more or less. I wouldn't own any more or any fewer firearms. It just isn't a hot button issue for me at all.

Degeneratefk

jeffbr said:

Degeneratefk said:

jeffbr said:

dudeman said:

Degeneratefk said:

dudeman said:

Degeneratefk said:

dudeman said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

It's not false at all.

How is it not false if it's never been proposed and no one is advocating for such a thing, particularly not those who have any kind of impact on the matter?

Diane Feinstein, Michael Bloomberg, Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton have all expressed interest in confiscation of privately owned firearms.

The list is longer than those four.

I don't remember hearing that from Hilary. Or Bloomberg. Can you cite that?

Clinton posits that we should look at Great Britain and Australia as a model for gun control. What did they do? Mandatory buyback and surrender programs.

Bloomberg, the same time he was catching flak for listing Tamarlan Zsarnaev as a victim of gun violence.

Ok, can you cite where you read or heard that? I do not recall reading that.

I don't have the link but it was from a campaign speech she gave a couple months ago.

http://reason.com/archives/2016/05/10/hillary-clinton-picks-a-doomed-fight-wit
"Australia is a good example" Clinton told an audience a few months ago. "The Australian government, as part of trying to clamp down on the availability of automatic weapons, offered a good price for buying hundreds of thousands of guns. Then, they basically clamped down, going forward."

If that's your argument that Clinton wants to repeal the second amendment, you may have more work to do.

It's not my argument. I was simply responding to the bolded part above. It doesn't matter much to me. I have a couple of guns, but am not a gun nut. I shoot targets may once a year. I would ignore any law calling for guns to be turned in, much like Australia has (according to the article, they have about 19% - 20% compliance). It wouldn't really change anything for me. I wouldn't shoot any more or less. I wouldn't own any more or any fewer firearms. It just isn't a hot button issue for me at all.

I wasn't referring to you. You did the leg work for dudeman

PJ_Soul

Godfather. said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Godfather. said:

Degeneratefk said:

You people are so chicken shit scared of something nobody is even pushing for.

wrong.......pay attention, I don't want to lose the right to buy and own an AR-15 or any model rifle or any semi-automatic weapon including
semi auto pistols.

Godfather.

And your neighbor should have the right to own a tiger or a grizzly bear. They're safe if raised by a responsible owner. Who are we to say what the next person should or shouldn't have as a pet?

sometimes I just shake my head and wonder how do some people even continue to exists with the low level of common sense displayed
on social media boards, PJ_Soul.......really ???? and Degeneratefk .....new there's an intelligent statement, you've done it again ol'boy !
and Thirty,,,please man ....a tiger or a bear ? I need some coffee it's too early for the non-sense on this topic.

Godfather.

That's exactly how some people feel about you and your posts dude. I find half of yours basically nonsensical and I'm positive I'm not the only one. So it's pretty weird to see you say this.

dudeman

Her

Degeneratefk said:

jeffbr said:

dudeman said:

Degeneratefk said:

dudeman said:

Degeneratefk said:

dudeman said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

It's not false at all.

How is it not false if it's never been proposed and no one is advocating for such a thing, particularly not those who have any kind of impact on the matter?

Diane Feinstein, Michael Bloomberg, Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton have all expressed interest in confiscation of privately owned firearms.

The list is longer than those four.

I don't remember hearing that from Hilary. Or Bloomberg. Can you cite that?

Clinton posits that we should look at Great Britain and Australia as a model for gun control. What did they do? Mandatory buyback and surrender programs.

Bloomberg, the same time he was catching flak for listing Tamarlan Zsarnaev as a victim of gun violence.

Ok, can you cite where you read or heard that? I do not recall reading that.

I don't have the link but it was from a campaign speech she gave a couple months ago.

http://reason.com/archives/2016/05/10/hillary-clinton-picks-a-doomed-fight-wit
"Australia is a good example" Clinton told an audience a few months ago. "The Australian government, as part of trying to clamp down on the availability of automatic weapons, offered a good price for buying hundreds of thousands of guns. Then, they basically clamped down, going forward."

If that's your argument that Clinton wants to repeal the second amendment, you may have more work to do.

I never said that she wanted to repeal the second amendment. She has said publicly that she doesn't think that the right to bear arms is an individual right, that the Supreme Court is wrong on the issue and that she supports gun bans.

She pledged to start stripping the rights protected by the 2nd Amendment on her first day in office.

The tactic of mandatory buyback and surrender programs as seen in Australia is treacherous. Sure, you can choose to not comply but then you are guilty of federal firearms crimes if you keep the guns that you currently, legally own.

Godfather.

PJ_Soul said:

Godfather. said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Godfather. said:

Degeneratefk said:

You people are so chicken shit scared of something nobody is even pushing for.

wrong.......pay attention, I don't want to lose the right to buy and own an AR-15 or any model rifle or any semi-automatic weapon including
semi auto pistols.

Godfather.

And your neighbor should have the right to own a tiger or a grizzly bear. They're safe if raised by a responsible owner. Who are we to say what the next person should or shouldn't have as a pet?

sometimes I just shake my head and wonder how do some people even continue to exists with the low level of common sense displayed
on social media boards, PJ_Soul.......really ???? and Degeneratefk .....new there's an intelligent statement, you've done it again ol'boy !
and Thirty,,,please man ....a tiger or a bear ? I need some coffee it's too early for the non-sense on this topic.

Godfather.

That's exactly how some people feel about you and your posts dude. I find half of yours basically nonsensical and I'm positive I'm not the only one. So it's pretty weird to see you say this.

still shaking my head.

Godfather.