Binaural and No Code vinyl bootlegs

Patrick_Sea3

IMHO Pearl Jam has two choices, go after the bootleggers(Which is probably difficult since they are in Europe?) Or Reissue their Albums....

boyo79

my2hands said:

AmishGuy91 said:

my2hands said:

AmishGuy91 said:

The Avocado/Yield bootlegs I got were decent. Sound probably wasn't as good as the original vinyl and each record had an imperfection that caused skipping.but overall not a bad purchase.

so bootleg vinyl that has subpar sound and skips is a good purchase nowadays?

I should have mentioned I am a vinyl collector, not an audiophile elitist. I listen to my vinyl once and then store them away. CDs and digital files are much easier to listen, and vinyl doesn't really sound any better, no matter what anyone says.

so if i pressed a shit sounding, defective bootleg backspacer LP on purple wax you would buy it from me and call it a good purchase?

i am not judging, just surprised at how far "collecting" is going... (i.e. people willing to buy bootleg vinyl pressed by whoever that sounds like shit just to say they have it)

I can sort of understand those buying the bootleg Yield and Avocado because they don't have the originals, though I have heard conflicting opinions about the quality. What I can't understand is those who already own the originals then go buy the fakes just cos it's different coloured vinyl. I guess some just like to throw money away.

RoleModelsinBlood31

When I see em, I'll buy em.

Staying out of the argument however. To each his own.

MayDay10

yeah, fuck these bootlegs

DewieCox

aurynsdad said:

AmishGuy91 said:

Benny bootleg can't be far behind

On the one hand, I hope you are right. On the other hand, if it's not a direct duplicate of the vinyl mastering, I don't think I want.

Can't say for sure about Benny, but I'm pretty sure Lightning Bolt is the first PJ album to get a vinyl specific mastering job. The only differences to previous albums are those inherent to the format.

lolobugg

DewieCox said:

aurynsdad said:

AmishGuy91 said:

Benny bootleg can't be far behind

On the one hand, I hope you are right. On the other hand, if it's not a direct duplicate of the vinyl mastering, I don't think I want.

Can't say for sure about Benny, but I'm pretty sure Lightning Bolt is the first PJ album to get a vinyl specific mastering job. The only differences to previous albums are those inherent to the format.

I didn't know that. I held off buying LB till the second pressing was out and haven't gotten around to it. Now I am excited to buy it. The CD version of LB sounds like total shit to me.

Also I think the Vault 3 was mastered for vinyl but I could be wrong. Sounds amazing almost too much low end on some songs. And Drop in the Park that was part of the Ten Deluxe sounds great on wax compared to the Remix and Remastered versions of Ten. I wouldn't waste my money on buying them alone. That's why I have never purchased the Vitalogy/Vs boxset.

One day I am going to open up my originals and spin them. I have kept them sealed for some reason all these years and i am afraid they are starting to get rings on the jackets. I know Yield and Live on 2 Legs are looking a little rough.

aurynsdad

DewieCox said:

aurynsdad said:

AmishGuy91 said:

Benny bootleg can't be far behind

On the one hand, I hope you are right. On the other hand, if it's not a direct duplicate of the vinyl mastering, I don't think I want.

Can't say for sure about Benny, but I'm pretty sure Lightning Bolt is the first PJ album to get a vinyl specific mastering job. The only differences to previous albums are those inherent to the format.

Backspacer vinyl was also mastered by Johnny Golden if memory serves. Also, due to the limitations of vinyl, my understanding is that anything that comes out on it has a vinyl specific mastering. Some just tend to depart more from the CD than others.

tempo_n_groove

I can sort of understand those buying the bootleg Yield and Avocado because they don't have the originals, though I have heard conflicting opinions about the quality. What I can't understand is those who already own the originals then go buy the fakes just cos it's different coloured vinyl. I guess some just like to throw money away.
^Boyo79



I am seeing $100+ for these albums! Just buy the original if you're going to pay that much.
I do wonder if new vinyl collectors think that they are stumbling upon something rare?

lolobugg

$20-25 maybe,, but paying that much is insane.
I would just save up and get the original

AmishGuy91

boyo79 said:

I can sort of understand those buying the bootleg Yield and Avocado because they don't have the originals, though I have heard conflicting opinions about the quality. What I can't understand is those who already own the originals then go buy the fakes just cos it's different coloured vinyl. I guess some just like to throw money away.

Some people like colored vinyl. Not really throwing money away when I could probably sell them on eBay for more than I paid for them, but never plan on doing so.

FR181798

Eels Beautiful Freak LP was fetching big bucks on ebay when it was out of print then a few months ago a bootleg appeared. Later this month it is getting a standard 180g reissue, could
quite see this happening with PJ LPs. It happened with the ITW lp as well. The only downside will be the value of my originals plummeting and no deluxe boxsets for those who have the originals and want something extra. Once they are reissued there will be tons sitting around unsold. To avoid pressing too many Sony should press to order through 10 club.

veddertown

I think if you're desperately seeking these hard to find/afford albums then these boots are great if you can pick them up quite cheap. I think I'll have paid once I get these new ones, around €120 for No Code, Yield, Binaural, Avocado and Ukulele Songs. An original Binaural costs double that and you might get No Code for about that. Once these PJ albums are officially re-released and I buy them all I'll probably still be looking at a combined price of an Avocado or Binaural at current prices. I wouldn't be buying these boots if I had the originals in my collection.

danny

we can pray hopefully all the real pj fans will get them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

aurynsdad

veddertown said:

I think if you're desperately seeking these hard to find/afford albums then these boots are great if you can pick them up quite cheap. I think I'll have paid once I get these new ones, around €120 for No Code, Yield, Binaural, Avocado and Ukulele Songs. An original Binaural costs double that and you might get No Code for about that. Once these PJ albums are officially re-released and I buy them all I'll probably still be looking at a combined price of an Avocado or Binaural at current prices. I wouldn't be buying these boots if I had the originals in my collection.

But they're not the same thing. Sure, it's a bargain, but your best hope is that it's a decent copy of the CD cut onto vinyl. The whole reason most of us vinyl listeners appreciate vinyl is that it is NOT that.

Patrick_Sea3

They are now for sale on Discogs

hacohen3

so tempting

Guy Dudebro

:-q

bone

$40+ for a bootleg version before shipping. I'll pass!!

RW8297

I always thought the vinyl means the sound quality so it needs to be an official release.
Fuck the bootlegs!

callen

For me doesn't matter If reissuing albums is a lucrative venture for them or not. Bugs me some are stealing their songs to make money. I won't be purchasing but sure hope I can get official copies of some of their albums one day. Yield, Lost Dogs and Riot act.

Come on pj please fill this need.