the majority of the "shaping" that these dildos had was done by right wing media. their social media posts were essentially regurgitating right wing talking points. plus they were too crazy for the folks at the bundy ranch. that is saying something right there.
beck, alex jones, fox news, et al, all bear responsibility when these crazy right wingers go on these rampages.
when is the last time someone inspired by huffington post or msnbc, or sirius left have gone on a rampage like this?? what is the common thread for most of these killers??
Actually quite a few of these shooters of recent past were registered Democrats.
An Arizona Republican running for Congress argued that Democrats commit nearly all the mass shootings in the country. Gary Kiehne, a rancher looking to unseat Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick (D-AZ), made the claim when asked about gun rights at a Republican primary debate on Saturday.
“If you look at all the fiascos that have occurred, 99 percent of them have been by Democrats pulling their guns out and shooting people,” Kiehne said. “So I don’t think you have a problem with the Republicans.”
Kiehne also boasted that he had “more guns and ammo than any one of my competitors.”
Kiehne’s claim that 99 percent of shootings were committed by Democrats is completely false, yet continues to be a persistent myth on the radical right. Roger Hedgecock, a conservative radio host, seems to have originated this message soon after the Newtown shooting, as President Obama was preparing a plan to combat gun violence.
Ya know, politicizing these tragic events couldn't be more wrong. You all should be ashamed of yourselves, reducing it all to your convenient political leanings.
If pointing out the fallacy of Unsung's statement makes me politicize the issue, guilty as charged. Facts should matter in this debate as in all debates. Facts have been missing and/or the deliberate misrepresentation of facts have been all too prevalent in our political discourse of late. Part of the overall problem IMHO.
We should all be ashamed of ourselves that since Newtown, nothing has been done to stem the carnage. There's the real shame.
Are you saying that there can't be a POLITICAL solution to this issue?
the reason for death in this case IS political. the killers had a political agenda.
So, you know what was going on in this particular killer's head and that they've got political motives...
Yes, there could be a political solution, but trying the same tactics over and over again do not provide different results. Obviously gun control isn't going to work. But start talking about other possibilities, and maybe something will.
Politics does nothing but breed hate and divide people. The less we work ourselves up over politics - something we cannot control - the less miserable we are. Think about that.
I believe as a Society here in America we have gotten way more violent ...
i think that is wrong...i think our violence is public domain now rather than private...but more violent? No way. prior to the 60s there were millions of women who's husbands were physically abusive, and it wasnt a story you would see on the news...it was just a way of life. Let's not forget lynch mobs and racial violence, which also tapered off in the 60s and were also unreported and accepted as a way of life.
Not to mention the fact that people were regularly lynching black people and shooting just about anyone they wanted in the wild west, beating the shit out of each other without consequence in most cases in most areas of America right up until around the time WWII started. And let's not forget about how teachers could beat children with wooden paddles and sticks, it was completely normal for dads to whip their kids with a belt, and mobsters and cops were having shoot outs on busy streets on a regular basis during prohibition. It was practically a free for all before the 60s in America. No clue where people got the idea that everyone was all prim and proper and well behaved in America before the 60s. That could not be further from the truth.
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I believe as a Society here in America we have gotten way more violent ...
i think that is wrong...i think our violence is public domain now rather than private...but more violent? No way. prior to the 60s there were millions of women who's husbands were physically abusive, and it wasnt a story you would see on the news...it was just a way of life. Let's not forget lynch mobs and racial violence, which also tapered off in the 60s and were also unreported and accepted as a way of life.
Not to mention the fact that people were regularly lynching black people and shooting just about anyone they wanted in the wild west, beating the shit out of each other without consequence in most cases in most areas of America right up until around the time WWII started. And let's not forget about how teachers could beat children with wooden paddles and sticks, it was completely normal for dads to whip their kids with a belt, and mobsters and cops were having shoot outs on busy streets on a regular basis during prohibition. It was practically a free for all before the 60s in America. No clue where people got the idea that everyone was all prim and proper and well behaved in America before the 60s. That could not be further from the truth.
Have we gotten more violent, or do we just hear more about it through media? I always here about how fucked up we are becoming and how violent people have gotten. This was almost 100 years ago. So......are we more violent now?
... I wonder.... in 1927, did people want to somehow restrict the sale of dynamite at the local Cress' 5 and 10 cent stores after this? And were there pro-dynamite people saying, "Dynamite doesn't kill people, people who kill people by blowing them up with dynamite kill people" and "More people are killed by buckboards... let's ban all buckboards."?
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Have we gotten more violent, or do we just hear more about it through media? I always here about how fucked up we are becoming and how violent people have gotten. This was almost 100 years ago. So......are we more violent now?
... I wonder.... in 1927, did people want to somehow restrict the sale of dynamite at the local Cress' 5 and 10 cent stores after this? And were there pro-dynamite people saying, "Dynamite doesn't kill people, people who kill people by blowing them up with dynamite kill people" and "More people are killed by buckboards... let's ban all buckboards."?
Hahaha. Funny!
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
The INDIVIDUAL makes it political. The individual can make anything political. But it doesn't mean it is.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
We should all be ashamed of ourselves that since Newtown, nothing has been done to stem the carnage. There's the real shame.
Are you saying that there can't be a POLITICAL solution to this issue?
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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html
And it doesn't include the first five and a half months of this year.
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Yes, there could be a political solution, but trying the same tactics over and over again do not provide different results. Obviously gun control isn't going to work. But start talking about other possibilities, and maybe something will.
Politics does nothing but breed hate and divide people. The less we work ourselves up over politics - something we cannot control - the less miserable we are. Think about that.
I wonder.... in 1927, did people want to somehow restrict the sale of dynamite at the local Cress' 5 and 10 cent stores after this?
And were there pro-dynamite people saying, "Dynamite doesn't kill people, people who kill people by blowing them up with dynamite kill people" and "More people are killed by buckboards... let's ban all buckboards."?
Hail, Hail!!!