Tomorrows the 10th

Spiritual_Chaos

How many people dropped off the forum when they pay-walled it?

Remember the activity dropping a lot.

foodshop65

it's safe to say Ten Clubs imagination has left the building

Bentleyspop

How many of the people threatening to quit the club have member numbers below 100,000 or 200,000?

RoleModelsinBlood31

Bentleyspop said:

How many of the people threatening to quit the club have member numbers below 100,000 or 200,000?

None.  They’re all smarter than that

PJ_Soul

Surely nobody was actually a member JUST for the vinyl single.... Right?

NewJPage

PJ_Soul said:

Surely nobody was actually a member JUST for the vinyl single.... Right?

It's the reason I'm analog. Not sure why I would stay that way now

PJ_Soul

NewJPage said:

PJ_Soul said:

Surely nobody was actually a member JUST for the vinyl single.... Right?

It's the reason I'm analog. Not sure why I would stay that way now

Oh for sure. I don't know why anyone would stay analog without it. Even just the name of the membership level doesn't make sense anymore, lol. I was just responding to the comment about people threatening to quit the club.

NewJPage

PJ_Soul said:

NewJPage said:

PJ_Soul said:

Surely nobody was actually a member JUST for the vinyl single.... Right?

It's the reason I'm analog. Not sure why I would stay that way now

Oh for sure. I don't know why anyone would stay analog without it. Even just the name of the membership level doesn't make sense anymore, lol. I was just responding to the comment about people threatening to quit the club.

A few have said as much. Not a lot, for sure. I understand if people are ready to let it go. I'm not all that far off from it myself. 

on2legs

I’m staying analog.  The shirt and bootleg code are worth $20 to me.  

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

Surely nobody was actually a member JUST for the vinyl single.... Right?

for me it was that and the bi-annual magazine. 

mcgruff10

on2legs said:

I’m staying analog.  The shirt and bootleg code are worth $20 to me.  

Must be nice mr rich retired guy. 

on2legs

mcgruff10 said:

on2legs said:

I’m staying analog.  The shirt and bootleg code are worth $20 to me.  

Must be nice mr rich retired guy. 

Lol.  When you’re on a fixed income $20 for a shirt and a bootleg is a steal!

2-feign-reluctance

Bentleyspop said:

How many of the people threatening to quit the club have member numbers below 100,000 or 200,000?

Not me. Paying member coming up on 23 yrs! Gonna ride it out until they shut it down. 

drummerboy_73

Bentleyspop said:

How many of the people threatening to quit the club have member numbers below 100,000 or 200,000?

Mine is 145xxx - member since '95, and Analog since they started it. I've already turned off my auto-renew and will be leaving the fan club when it comes up for renewal in May - not even staying digital. It's not just because of the taking away of the annual single (that we get every couple of years if we're lucky), or the latest "lack of news"letter. It's been a long time coming, and these were just the final nails in the coffin.

They haven't played my city (Las Vegas) in over 12 years and the last show I was able to travel to was L.A. in 2013; can't really afford to, nor would I want to plunk down thousands of dollars to travel to "destination" shows at baseball stadiums; the only thing the "website" really is anymore is a web store where they continue to sell overpriced merchandise, yet don't deliver items which we've paid for as a part of our membership for YEARS afterward; there's been more new vinyl for sale on PEARL JAM's store lately from other bands than PEARL JAM (I thought I signed up for PEARL JAM'S fan club?); the member t-shirts are beyond poor - material is garbage and no creativity or effort in the design whatsoever; no communication about anything, shipping is a joke, and customer service is at an all-time low.

I really dig a lot of the recent side projects and solo material various members have done over the last few years. There is just nothing Pearl Jam is doing in the last several years that excites me anymore, musically or otherwise. Whereas I used to lose my shit whenever I saw the slightest blurb about Pearl Jam in a Rolling Stone magazine, or some kind of mysterious post in the old "Rumor Pit', or a cool, surprise newsletter in the mail with some sort of engaging activity or cool collectible - Pearl Jam isn't really much more than an afterthought anymore, and a band I rarely even talk about anymore when discussing music. I get more excited seeing local bands at my local venues tearing it up, than I do at these big, overpriced, greatest hits arena shows. I'll most likely continue to buy their new studio albums when (IF) they release anything further, and when (IF) they come near my city again, maybe try for general tickets via public sale, but that's all I can muster anymore. It's been a great ride for 27+ years though, and I don't regret any of it. At this point, I know I've seen them in their prime, have been a part of some great things over the years, and have great memories, but the last few years have been a pretty good indicator of where this band is headed, and I'll just keep my $20-$40 and spend it on a few records.

HughFreakingDillon

drummerboy_73 said:

Bentleyspop said:

How many of the people threatening to quit the club have member numbers below 100,000 or 200,000?

Mine is 145xxx - member since '95, and Analog since they started it. I've already turned off my auto-renew and will be leaving the fan club when it comes up for renewal in May - not even staying digital. It's not just because of the taking away of the annual single (that we get every couple of years if we're lucky), or the latest "lack of news"letter. It's been a long time coming, and these were just the final nails in the coffin.

They haven't played my city (Las Vegas) in over 12 years and the last show I was able to travel to was L.A. in 2013; can't really afford to, nor would I want to plunk down thousands of dollars to travel to "destination" shows at baseball stadiums; the only thing the "website" really is anymore is a web store where they continue to sell overpriced merchandise, yet don't deliver items which we've paid for as a part of our membership for YEARS afterward; there's been more new vinyl for sale on PEARL JAM's store lately from other bands than PEARL JAM (I thought I signed up for PEARL JAM'S fan club?); the member t-shirts are beyond poor - material is garbage and no creativity or effort in the design whatsoever; no communication about anything, shipping is a joke, and customer service is at an all-time low.

I really dig a lot of the recent side projects and solo material various members have done over the last few years. There is just nothing Pearl Jam is doing in the last several years that excites me anymore, musically or otherwise. Whereas I used to lose my shit whenever I saw the slightest blurb about Pearl Jam in a Rolling Stone magazine, or some kind of mysterious post in the old "Rumor Pit', or a cool, surprise newsletter in the mail with some sort of engaging activity or cool collectible - Pearl Jam isn't really much more than an afterthought anymore, and a band I rarely even talk about anymore when discussing music. I get more excited seeing local bands at my local venues tearing it up, than I do at these big, overpriced, greatest hits arena shows. I'll most likely continue to buy their new studio albums when (IF) they release anything further, and when (IF) they come near my city again, maybe try for general tickets via public sale, but that's all I can muster anymore. It's been a great ride for 27+ years though, and I don't regret any of it. At this point, I know I've seen them in their prime, have been a part of some great things over the years, and have great memories, but the last few years have been a pretty good indicator of where this band is headed, and I'll just keep my $20-$40 and spend it on a few records.

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mfc2006

2-feign-reluctance said:

Bentleyspop said:

How many of the people threatening to quit the club have member numbers below 100,000 or 200,000?

Not me. Paying member coming up on 23 yrs! Gonna ride it out until they shut it down. 

Same. I'll drop down to digital for sure, though.PJ_Soul said:

Surely nobody was actually a member JUST for the vinyl single.... Right?

I was. Bummer that it's going away, but it's their choice.

NewJPage

drummerboy_73 said:

Bentleyspop said:

How many of the people threatening to quit the club have member numbers below 100,000 or 200,000?

Mine is 145xxx - member since '95, and Analog since they started it. I've already turned off my auto-renew and will be leaving the fan club when it comes up for renewal in May - not even staying digital. It's not just because of the taking away of the annual single (that we get every couple of years if we're lucky), or the latest "lack of news"letter. It's been a long time coming, and these were just the final nails in the coffin.

They haven't played my city (Las Vegas) in over 12 years and the last show I was able to travel to was L.A. in 2013; can't really afford to, nor would I want to plunk down thousands of dollars to travel to "destination" shows at baseball stadiums; the only thing the "website" really is anymore is a web store where they continue to sell overpriced merchandise, yet don't deliver items which we've paid for as a part of our membership for YEARS afterward; there's been more new vinyl for sale on PEARL JAM's store lately from other bands than PEARL JAM (I thought I signed up for PEARL JAM'S fan club?); the member t-shirts are beyond poor - material is garbage and no creativity or effort in the design whatsoever; no communication about anything, shipping is a joke, and customer service is at an all-time low.

I really dig a lot of the recent side projects and solo material various members have done over the last few years. There is just nothing Pearl Jam is doing in the last several years that excites me anymore, musically or otherwise. Whereas I used to lose my shit whenever I saw the slightest blurb about Pearl Jam in a Rolling Stone magazine, or some kind of mysterious post in the old "Rumor Pit', or a cool, surprise newsletter in the mail with some sort of engaging activity or cool collectible - Pearl Jam isn't really much more than an afterthought anymore, and a band I rarely even talk about anymore when discussing music. I get more excited seeing local bands at my local venues tearing it up, than I do at these big, overpriced, greatest hits arena shows. I'll most likely continue to buy their new studio albums when (IF) they release anything further, and when (IF) they come near my city again, maybe try for general tickets via public sale, but that's all I can muster anymore. It's been a great ride for 27+ years though, and I don't regret any of it. At this point, I know I've seen them in their prime, have been a part of some great things over the years, and have great memories, but the last few years have been a pretty good indicator of where this band is headed, and I'll just keep my $20-$40 and spend it on a few records.

All this is true. I haven't decided to leave yet, but headed there. I di have to admit that all the talk of MAYBE new music coming (even though I didn't believe it) got me pumped and I busted out live on 2 legs😁

bazzer

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Why have a contest about a vault when a large percentage of the fans who wanted it have bought it...

That is like when my dad gave me the Eddie Vedder - Into the Wild cd album for my birthday. Like dad, you don't think I have this already?

Yeah, that's so funny, but I give your dad points for trying at least. 😁

BettrMan21

drummerboy_73 said:

Bentleyspop said:

How many of the people threatening to quit the club have member numbers below 100,000 or 200,000?

Mine is 145xxx - member since '95, and Analog since they started it. I've already turned off my auto-renew and will be leaving the fan club when it comes up for renewal in May - not even staying digital. It's not just because of the taking away of the annual single (that we get every couple of years if we're lucky), or the latest "lack of news"letter. It's been a long time coming, and these were just the final nails in the coffin.

They haven't played my city (Las Vegas) in over 12 years and the last show I was able to travel to was L.A. in 2013; can't really afford to, nor would I want to plunk down thousands of dollars to travel to "destination" shows at baseball stadiums; the only thing the "website" really is anymore is a web store where they continue to sell overpriced merchandise, yet don't deliver items which we've paid for as a part of our membership for YEARS afterward; there's been more new vinyl for sale on PEARL JAM's store lately from other bands than PEARL JAM (I thought I signed up for PEARL JAM'S fan club?); the member t-shirts are beyond poor - material is garbage and no creativity or effort in the design whatsoever; no communication about anything, shipping is a joke, and customer service is at an all-time low.

I really dig a lot of the recent side projects and solo material various members have done over the last few years. There is just nothing Pearl Jam is doing in the last several years that excites me anymore, musically or otherwise. Whereas I used to lose my shit whenever I saw the slightest blurb about Pearl Jam in a Rolling Stone magazine, or some kind of mysterious post in the old "Rumor Pit', or a cool, surprise newsletter in the mail with some sort of engaging activity or cool collectible - Pearl Jam isn't really much more than an afterthought anymore, and a band I rarely even talk about anymore when discussing music. I get more excited seeing local bands at my local venues tearing it up, than I do at these big, overpriced, greatest hits arena shows. I'll most likely continue to buy their new studio albums when (IF) they release anything further, and when (IF) they come near my city again, maybe try for general tickets via public sale, but that's all I can muster anymore. It's been a great ride for 27+ years though, and I don't regret any of it. At this point, I know I've seen them in their prime, have been a part of some great things over the years, and have great memories, but the last few years have been a pretty good indicator of where this band is headed, and I'll just keep my $20-$40 and spend it on a few records.

Very well said. I'll drop down to digital. But having been in with a 149 number, it's hard for me to leave. But I'm the same, I hardly ever listen to or talk about Pearl Jam anymore. I think I've finally gotten to the point where I don't take  them any more seriously than they take themselves. Another year of no new music and shows in Boston and Chicago and I'll let it ride as well. I'm 40 and I've been with them since I was 13. It's sad but all things come to an end.

Poncier

Lost In Ohio said:

mace1229 said:

PJ_Soul said:

bone said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I keep seeing "clarification of membership levels" as one of the hopes/prospects for this newsletter. I have a good hunch the only thing will be a mention that the single is discontinued. There is nothing else.  Analog is everything it was before just now without the single.  Nothing is going to replace it. Everything else about digital and analog levels stays the same.

They've already clarified it right on the website.  https://help.pearljam.com/hc/en-us/articles/205285910-Membership-Levels shows the differences now.  The only thing that changed is they aren't producing an annual single.  Analog gets the shirt (or as they call it limited edition membership item coupon code), a Bootleg coupon and printed copy of the Deep magazine.  

Huh. Well then... everyone loves paying the same amount and getting less, right? I guess they figure inflation takes care of this. And I guess we have to admit it does... considering their shipping costs. If they aren't replacing the single with anything, I'm actually inclined to think they really are doing this because they were losing money on the analog memberships, or just breaking even maybe.

I would be shocked if they didn't turn a good profit on that $40, and if not, someone needs to lose their jobs. You can get shirts mass produced at that quality for really a few bucks. The retail price of 45's are $10 so it has to cost them much less to produce that. I'm assuming it doesn't cost them anything to give out the digital code. And if they spend more than a few bucks on shipping for any of that then they are doing it wrong.
Half of that extra $20 for analog should be straight profit. If they aren't netting $25-30 off my $40 fee, then someone over there has no clue how to handle money.
Up until the early 2000s there was only "analog" and it was only $10. Now you didn't get a shirt or the code, but we got everything else for $10. I can't see how charging $40 and throwing in a low quality shirt isn't making a lot of money.

When I first joined in 2003:

$15 per year and it got you:
The record
Two newsletters per year
Ticket access
...the only "shop" was mail-order via the newsletters.

I can't remember what else. The forums and the Rumor Pit emails were not part of the fee.

Got all that for $5.00 when I joined.