Chomsky, "Obama determined to demolish the foundations of our civil liberties."
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487I'm saddened to see someone thinks this is a joke.0
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Not trying to sound like a Bush hater, but the NSA was started under him. However, Obama should be ashamed of himself to continue the act when he said it was wrong before being elected.
However, I don't think he is "determined to demolish the foundations of our civil liberties," nor do I think Bush was.~Carter~
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
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a conservative agreeing with something written by chomsky??? usually they are trying to discredit him. maybe there is some common ground somewhere afterall.
my head is spinning,,,,i think i am going to go lay down now....
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Actually Truman started the NSA, and gimme I am no conservative. Our common ground is Libertarianism.0
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anti immigration, pro gun, anti tax, those are part of the republican party platform.
just sayin, man."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Democrats used to be for personal liberty prior to Obama, i.e. Dennis Kucinich.
I also don't believe that the GOP is anti-immigration, there are some that are anti-illegal immigration however many are pushing for reform now.0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Libertarians: Keeping Republicans out of your bedroom and Democrats out of your wallet.0
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dennis kucinich was a minority in the democratic party long before obama came along. he was a radical lefty in 2000.
the gop is anti immigration reform. rubio made his proposal last year and the gop turned on him. the texas republican party official platform released this week is clearly anti immigration. rick perry supports giving in state tuition to kids of illegal immigrants, and he is paying the price politically for that support."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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the only reason kucinich lost in ohio was due to jerrymandering of the districts."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487I certainly would not have agreed with everything Dennis Kucinich did or was for but he wouldn't have been happy with this NSA garbage.0
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Some how I don't think Obama or republicans in general or democrats in general or libertarians in general are in favor of a wide-sweeping elimination of personal liberties. It seems to me that in general republicans are against removing the liberty to own and carry guns almost anywhere and against taxation of almost any form. The democrats generally are against removing the liberty to smoke weed and enjoy state and national parks. And libertarians generally are against removing the liberty to do anything they want to. Yes, I am generalizing, but generally speaking I think what I'm saying is true."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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What made me laugh was your selective editing of the linked article's by line. Very Breitbartish and Infowarsish of you. Still funnier was your use of Obama in your headline but a minute mention of him by name in the article you linked to, in the context of the president with a direct link to the NSA's servers in Utah, personally selecting individuals for closer scrutiny, ruin or for shipping off to GITMO I suppose?unsung said:I'm saddened to see someone thinks this is a joke.
Too funny. Thanks for the laugh.
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You're right. I was referring to all the recent hardcore-spying stuff.unsung said:Actually Truman started the NSA, and gimme I am no conservative. Our common ground is Libertarianism.
~Carter~
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
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Just saying there are only 2 choices?gimmesometruth27 said:anti immigration, pro gun, anti tax, those are part of the republican party platform.
just sayin, man.
What if you are anti-immigration, anti-gun, and anti-tax?
Or pro-immigration, pro-gun, and pro-tax?
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Or pro-immigration, pro-gun, and pro-tax?
Black Panther Party? I'm sure there's a political party out there somewhere that espouses those views. I always enjoy seeing the really obscure parties that make the ballot in my state. Cool Moose Party ran Robert Healy for Lieutenant Governor on a platform of eliminating the office. Ran for governor once or twice as well. Might do so again this time around.
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Wow- sorry to side-track here briefly but my reaction to this was "Whoa! Does the Black Panther organization still exist? Well, they do and sort of shame on me for not knowing that. I lived in the Bay Area during the hey day of the Panthers and those were some heavy duty cats. Never had a problem with them myself- most of what they did made sense to me back then. I also thought the black and brown stamps were cool.Halifax2TheMax said:Or pro-immigration, pro-gun, and pro-tax?
Black Panther Party? I'm sure there's a political party out there somewhere that espouses those views. I always enjoy seeing the really obscure parties that make the ballot in my state. Cool Moose Party ran Robert Healy for Lieutenant Governor on a platform of eliminating the office. Ran for governor once or twice as well. Might do so again this time around.
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Just saying there are only 2 choices?gimmesometruth27 said:anti immigration, pro gun, anti tax, those are part of the republican party platform.
just sayin, man.
What if you are anti-immigration, anti-gun, and anti-tax?
Or pro-immigration, pro-gun, and pro-tax?
What if you are pro legal immigration but anti illegal immigration?
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Actually many states have done away with Lt Gov, it is a waste of money.Halifax2TheMax said:Or pro-immigration, pro-gun, and pro-tax?
Black Panther Party? I'm sure there's a political party out there somewhere that espouses those views. I always enjoy seeing the really obscure parties that make the ballot in my state. Cool Moose Party ran Robert Healy for Lieutenant Governor on a platform of eliminating the office. Ran for governor once or twice as well. Might do so again this time around.
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the official republican party platform is all of the things that i have listed. they update their platform every year, and 2014 official party platform is no different.cincybearcat said:
Just saying there are only 2 choices?gimmesometruth27 said:anti immigration, pro gun, anti tax, those are part of the republican party platform.
just sayin, man.
What if you are anti-immigration, anti-gun, and anti-tax?
Or pro-immigration, pro-gun, and pro-tax?
even after the "2012 autopsy" they are doing the exact opposite of what their autopsy said that they need to do to be more appealing to more people."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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