US military defends our freedom...

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    unsung said:

    brianlux said:

    I don't agree that that place holds the most vile people on this planet. Most of the most vile people on this planet sit behind the desk of some (not all) CEO's desks.


    And they pull the strings of who?

    The puppet who swore the Oath is just as guilty as his master, and probably more so because he casts the vote.
    Using your logic, Unsung, are we not the most vile people on this planet? Who lets this all happen? Who is (or is it "whom are"? damn English :-)) ) biggest in numbers? And even assuming you are right, are the leaders of any one country the most vile? If North Korea were big enough to be a world power would some of their leaders not be just as vile? I just don't think your statement makes it all that simple.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Almost every war the US has been involved in was about money or land. I agree that WWII was influenced by money. But I think most can agree that having Hitler ruling most of Europe would not have been in the best interest of the US and the rest of the world.
  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    Hitler had funding/support from American (linked) Interests/industry.

    Some of the same systems (so to speak) that supported Hitler and Nazi Germany were the same systems that were supporting the USA.



  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    If they were defending our freedom, they would be attacking our own government. It takes away far more of my freedom than foreign countries do.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • BHealy
    BHealy Flagstaff, Arizona Posts: 466
    unsung said:

    How about Libya a few years ago?
    Korea?
    How about any Middle East conflict?

    Ok so we go into Afghanistan, now we cut deals with those guys.

    It really is all a scam, it's propaganda. I go back and look at all of our conflicts and aside from those against the Brits I don't see one where American freedom was at stake.

    World War II?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Hitler was a threat to the world, but we had not been attacked. For an opposing view to what is taught in public schools look into what was mentioned above and how we essentially left Japan with no choice. We get attacked, public backs the war, companies profit.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    know1 said:

    If they were defending our freedom, they would be attacking our own government. It takes away far more of my freedom than foreign countries do.

    Precisely my point.

  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    the us military is the strongest propaganda in the US. Don't talk bad about them or the troops, fighting for our freedom, be all you can be, war is bad, but have to support it to support the troops, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis die, but support the troops.

    military fly over at sporting events, god bless America at sporting events, of course the national anthem at sporting events, pledge of allegiance for elementary students.

    the brainwashing starts early and often.

    we are good....others are evil, if we go to war and thousands die, oh well, price of doing business.

    but by god if US soldiers die while killing said thousands, we better kill a thousand more. vengeance will be ours.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    It is exactly that.

    These people that say to support the troops make me fucking laugh. They are the same people that vote for politicians like Obama and Romney. If they supported the troops they'd vote for someone that wants to bring them all home, not sit on some line for fifty years.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    To all the haters out there ...

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    Party On, Dudes!
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I don't believe that there is a person here who likes George Bush, but I also would have a hard time with someone trying to justify how Obama's foreign policy is much different.

    ***I understand the pic is a joke.***
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    unsung said:

    It is exactly that.

    These people that say to support the troops make me fucking laugh. They are the same people that vote for politicians like Obama and Romney. If they supported the troops they'd vote for someone that wants to bring them all home, not sit on some line for fifty years.

    I'm glad I make you fucking laugh. Laughter is good for one's health. I voted for Obama. I'm disappointed in Obama in many ways. I don't think voting for someone who has no chance of getting elected (which I have done before) will help bring the troops home. I am against war. I am so very very very glad my nephew is home and alive after serving three tours in Iraq. I hope you and Mr. Smellyman are having a good fucking laugh.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    If everyone that said Candidate X had no chance of getting elected actually voted for the guy....

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    when my best friend joined the army as an infantryman i made sure he knew that i considered him a mercenary joining a criminal organization and he understood exactly why i felt that way. Our relationship will never be the same, we both felt betrayed by each other. This guy is smart enough to know better, but just like ALL his army buddies (the ones smart enough to even question), the signing bonus and promises of lucrative contracts and high tech careers lured him into schlepping a rifle. I will always feel like harassing him unmercifully was the best thing I could do for him... I couldnt enable him, and I wont do it for any other soldiers either.
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    brianlux said:

    unsung said:

    It is exactly that.

    These people that say to support the troops make me fucking laugh. They are the same people that vote for politicians like Obama and Romney. If they supported the troops they'd vote for someone that wants to bring them all home, not sit on some line for fifty years.

    I'm glad I make you fucking laugh. Laughter is good for one's health. I voted for Obama. I'm disappointed in Obama in many ways. I don't think voting for someone who has no chance of getting elected (which I have done before) will help bring the troops home. I am against war. I am so very very very glad my nephew is home and alive after serving three tours in Iraq. I hope you and Mr. Smellyman are having a good fucking laugh.

    About what? I don't find it the least bit funny.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,766
    edited June 2014
    I don't have anything against US troops, but this "defending our freedom" bullshit really rubs me the wrong way for the most part. I mean, unless everyone means that the US troops are defending relative financial freedom, this statement is rarely even close to accurate.
    The troops are doing their jobs, which they signed up for, and I don't want any of them hurt or dead. And they should have good vet benefits. That's about all I think about them unless there are some pretty extraordinary circumstances to consider.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,797
    edited June 2014
    rgambs said:

    when my best friend joined the army as an infantryman i made sure he knew that i considered him a mercenary joining a criminal organization and he understood exactly why i felt that way. Our relationship will never be the same, we both felt betrayed by each other. This guy is smart enough to know better, but just like ALL his army buddies (the ones smart enough to even question), the signing bonus and promises of lucrative contracts and high tech careers lured him into schlepping a rifle. I will always feel like harassing him unmercifully was the best thing I could do for him... I couldnt enable him, and I wont do it for any other soldiers either.
    A man has to find his own way in the world.

    Umm, I can see how YOU betrayed HIM, but I fail to see how he betrayed you?

    Dont support his decison but support the friend.
    "The most I can do for my friend is simply be his friend."
    Henry David Thoreau
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