Tiananmen Square 25 Years Ago

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  • mattsl1983mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    Sometimes I wish good ol' benzine would rely less on quoting articles and posting links and more on actual self thought and self ideas. I know, it's easy to just take sides when you read a certain sides propaganda and run with it.

    From England? Your welcome.

    Never answered the DB Cooper avatar question... Still trying to find a link or an article that supports your decision?
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    Im not trying to derail the thread but I like the db Cooper avatar. Plus, byrnzie and big bank hank are the only 2 dudes I've seen here that quote themselves in the signature. Classic stuff.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited June 2014

    Sometimes I wish good ol' benzine would rely less on quoting articles and posting links and more on actual self thought and self ideas. I know, it's easy to just take sides when you read a certain sides propaganda and run with it.

    You must have missed the numerous comments I've posted right here in this very thread then. Or maybe you're just pretending to have missed them so as to have an opportunity to make a snide comment.

    Well done!

    Though, I actually couldn't give a fuck whether you like it or not. If source material, facts, and articles, bother you so much, then don't read them. Pretty simple really.

    From England?  Your welcome.

    What's that supposed to mean?

    Never answered the DB Cooper avatar question... Still trying to find a link or an article that supports your decision?

    Firstly, what the fuck does it have to do with this thread?

    Secondly, are you really so conceited that you think I, or anyone else, has to pander to your every whim?

    Oh, and my name isn't benzine, moron.
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  • I believe it's spelled moran.

    At least it was in that picture Gern posted in one of these recent threads.

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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037

    Sometimes I wish good ol' benzine would rely less on quoting articles and posting links and more on actual self thought and self ideas. I know, it's easy to just take sides when you read a certain sides propaganda and run with it.

    From England? Your welcome.

    Never answered the DB Cooper avatar question... Still trying to find a link or an article that supports your decision?

    It's lame, snide posts like this that make me question why I still bother coming here.

    You create a thread to try and get an interesting discussion going, and you're met with "benzine, I hate to bring the real World to you...and I wish you could think for yourself, instead of relying on propaganda. Oh, and where are you from anyway? And why do you have DB Cooper as your avatar?"

    Seriously, what's the fucking point? You get more constructive debates going on Youtube these days.

  • mattsl1983mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    Well benzie, or however my auto correct respells it is very simple.

    To any of your points or augments you make you do nothing but post pages upon pages of links and quotes from other people. It's like you sit there and pick a side, and then instead of adding any rational you simply google anything that backs your belief and post it as if that's your own profound thought. And yes, for someone who consistently wants to critizise everything about the USA, you pick an American as your avatar. I think that's a bit strange.

    Look up England's history in the past 100 years and you will know why I say, you are welcome.


  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,049
    You guys need to get together over a couple of pints and no Google. You might find a way to laugh it all off rather quickly and have a good time. Given the opportunity, I'd do the same with anyone here. Shake hands boys, we don't need anyone else bailing here.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037

    Well benzie, or however my auto correct respells it is very simple.

    To any of your points or augments you make you do nothing but post pages upon pages of links and quotes from other people. It's like you sit there and pick a side, and then instead of adding any rational you simply google anything that backs your belief and post it as if that's your own profound thought. And yes, for someone who consistently wants to critizise everything about the USA, you pick an American as your avatar. I think that's a bit strange.

    Look up England's history in the past 100 years and you will know why I say, you are welcome.

    Well Dickhead, or however my auto correct spells it, the fact of the matter is that I couldn't give a flying fuck what you think about me.

    Though if you'd like to provide just one example of when I've posted an article, quote, or anything else, and then pretended that it's my 'own profound thought', then go ahead.

    And as for England owing the U.S anything, you really are as ignorant as I thought.

    Let me know when you have something intelligent to contribute, in-between carrying on like a petulant little child.

  • mattsl1983mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    edited June 2014
    Dude, you are so right. Keep fighting the good fight.

    And I do find it a bit troublesome that Mattsl1983 gets auto corrected to dickhead. Maybe that's what's wrong with your google machine? Damn ol keyboard just ain't typing in the correct letters?

    Also note I criticized you without any name calling and pointed out how you act on this forum. Thanks for the name calling, and glad that it doesn't bother you at all. Take it easy.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited June 2014

    Dude, you are so right. Keep fighting the good fight.

    And I do find it a bit troublesome that Mattsl1983 gets auto corrected to dickhead. Maybe that's what's wrong with your google machine? Damn ol keyboard just ain't typing in the correct letters?

    Also note I criticized you without any name calling and pointed out how you act on this forum. Thanks for the name calling, and glad that it doesn't bother you at all. Take it easy.

    Ha ha ha! Now he plays the victim card.

    Yep, I'm sure you'll have the mods fooled with that one, Dickhead. (Damn auto-correct. There it goes again!)

    Thanks for derailing this thread with your trolling and personal attacks. You're a shining example to us all.


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  • mattsl1983mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    No victim card. I just think it's entertaining that you resort to name calling when you get called out on how you act here.

    But I'm still glad to see that none of this bothers you.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited June 2014

    No victim card. I just think it's entertaining that you resort to name calling when you get called out on how you act here.

    But I'm still glad to see that none of this bothers you.


    Do you really think that I should be bothered by the fact that you have a problem with people who support their comments with facts, and with source material? Really? Why should that bother me? I don't know you, and i have zero interest in you. Do you suffer from ego-centrism? Most people evolve beyond ego-centrism at around the age of two, or three.
    I understand that there are morons in this World who like to toss around personal opinions, and personal fantasies, with no basis in reality, and with no relation to the historical record. But that doesn't mean that I have to behave like one of these morons too. I prefer to interject news articles, pieces from respected writers, journalists, and political commentators, in these here threads, because they can add something to the debate.
    I've posted nearly 20,000 comments on this forum since 2006, compared with your 300, so don't chime in here telling me what to do. If you took that chip off your shoulder and took the time to read back through my earlier posts, you'll see that the majority of them are my own words. (I've said it before, and I'll say it again - only in America can supporting your comments with source material, and checking the facts, result in criticism and abuse). Clearly the anti-intellectual, Mickey Mouse World you inhabit has instilled an aversion to such things.

    And at the same time, you think you're in a position to educate me, and show me the 'real World? Really? What real World is that? Is that the real world between channel 5 and channel 7 on your t.v screen?

    As for name-calling, and breaching the posting rules on this forum, anybody with eyes to read can see that you came into this thread spouting off like someone with a huge chip on his shoulder. You said you felt sorry to have to bring the real world to me. (Like your closeted little life, blinking in front of your Mommy's t.v set, puts you in a position to teach me anything?) You then asked me where I'm from and what I support, and why I have DB Cooper as my avatar, e.t.c, (like any of that has anything what-so-fucking ever to do with this thread topic). before addressing me as 'byzine', and 'benzine', and then criticizing what I choose to post here, and denigrating England, like England is obliged to kiss the ass of the U.S....

    And now you play the victim card, and pretend to be offended.

    Listen pal, I've been posting on this forum a lot longer than you, and I've met many people just like you on here. (Unfortunately all too many. Maybe why so many people have left this place). You have nothing intelligent, or constructive, to add, and so resort to lame, personal digs instead. I've seen it time and again, not just with me, but with many other posters. It's not big, and it's not clever. And if you don't like what I post, then don't fucking read what I post. You can use the ignore feature to shield you from the terrible burden of being confronted by any article, quote, study, video, or picture, that I happen to post.

    Pretty simple really.

    Carry on.
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  • he's a cynic Byrnzie, don't spend too much time trying to talk sense :-B
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,045
    I read an article or heard an interview where, and bare with me as it was years ago, but it really changed my perception of China. Basically the article or the interviewee was stating that China's populace is made up of many different ethnicities that was being held together by a strong arm communist party. I know there are Chinese Muslim Ulghers (sp?) in the north and a Tibetan minority being subsumed and others that I can't recall throughout the country and that if the communist party suddenly ceased to exist and western style democracy were introduced with free and fair elections, that the country would explode into political/ethnic violence. I remember thinking at the time, because I didn't know any better, that that was odd, why would that happen? So it got me thinking now because of this thread, what would happen? Would it descend into chaos like Iraq or would it be more like Eastern Europe after the fall of communism? Or something else entirely? I honestly don't know.

    Any insights?

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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    edited June 2014

    I read an article or heard an interview where, and bare with me as it was years ago, but it really changed my perception of China. Basically the article or the interviewee was stating that China's populace is made up of many different ethnicities that was being held together by a strong arm communist party. I know there are Chinese Muslim Ulghers (sp?) in the north and a Tibetan minority being subsumed and others that I can't recall throughout the country and that if the communist party suddenly ceased to exist and western style democracy were introduced with free and fair elections, that the country would explode into political/ethnic violence. I remember thinking at the time, because I didn't know any better, that that was odd, why would that happen? So it got me thinking now because of this thread, what would happen? Would it descend into chaos like Iraq or would it be more like Eastern Europe after the fall of communism? Or something else entirely? I honestly don't know.

    Any insights?

    Peace.

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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037

    I read an article or heard an interview where, and bare with me as it was years ago, but it really changed my perception of China. Basically the article or the interviewee was stating that China's populace is made up of many different ethnicities that was being held together by a strong arm communist party. I know there are Chinese Muslim Ulghers (sp?) in the north and a Tibetan minority being subsumed and others that I can't recall throughout the country and that if the communist party suddenly ceased to exist and western style democracy were introduced with free and fair elections, that the country would explode into political/ethnic violence. I remember thinking at the time, because I didn't know any better, that that was odd, why would that happen? So it got me thinking now because of this thread, what would happen? Would it descend into chaos like Iraq or would it be more like Eastern Europe after the fall of communism? Or something else entirely? I honestly don't know.

    Any insights?

    Peace.

    It is made up of a lot of different ethnicities, but I really don't think it requires a strong-arm Communist party, or any other form of totalitarian regime, to hold the country together. The only reason the Uighurs in Xinjiang province, in the North West, along with the Tibetans, are resorting to violence, and/or dissent, is because the strong-arm Communist party keeps fucking with them, and trying to destroy their respective cultures. Maybe a less strong-armed, less rigid leadership, would see an improvement in that situation.

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