12 year old girl stabbed by friends.

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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    josevolution said:

    goingtoverona said:

    i'm sure stuff like this happened 40 years ago, technology just wasn't what it is today so people didn't hear about it. we take it for granted that if we have a question about something we can look it up in a few seconds rather than going to a library. in my opinion, nothing has really changed, we just have the opportunity to hear about shit like this courtesy of technology.

    and i'm not sure what guns have to do with this girl getting stabbed.

    no your wrong shit like this didn't happen 40yrs ago young 12 yr old girls didn't go around stabbing younger girls for kicks that shit didnt happen the way it happens these days , go ahead look it up google it see what you come up remember 40yrs ago not two yrs ago ....

    It is the lacking of moral fibers.

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    callen said:

    Capital punishment

    MMA

    Rampant killing and violence in media

    Proliferation of guns with social acceptance.

    Kids are simply a byproduct of their environment.

    Stop using this platform to push your cause, Callen. We get it... you think people that go rape, torture, and murder children deserve better than a death sentence. But it's a stretch to suggest that we are eroding society by executing such types.

    Especially considering that 2013 saw 39 executions in the USA. Capital punishment is hardly an overwhelming force or causal factor motivating these two misguided youths to go stab a peer trying to please the 'slender man'.

    Argument aside... it would be much more accurate at this point to say this is a case of two immature and slightly stupid kids void of love, void of good parenting, void of social acceptance and left to their own devices which led them to formulate and execute a really bad plan... instead of suggesting the Death Penalty or Obama made them do it.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Plus, stop blaming the gun for all of society's woes.
  • robertstackarmy
    robertstackarmy So. WI Posts: 682
    This happened in my neck of the woods and is all over the news. I need to get away from it, too depressing.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
    I agree with Hedonist on two points: Let's not turn this into YET another gun thread and yes, absolutely parents should be part of the picture in terms of things like this happening. Thank you for pointing that out, H!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    unsung said:

    callen said:

    Capital punishment

    MMA

    Rampant killing and violence in media

    Proliferation of guns with social acceptance.

    Kids are simply a byproduct of their environment.


    She was stabbed with a gun?

    It's part of the culture. My point. V
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    callen said:

    Capital punishment

    MMA

    Rampant killing and violence in media

    Proliferation of guns with social acceptance.

    Kids are simply a byproduct of their environment.

    Stop using this platform to push your cause, Callen. We get it... you think people that go rape, torture, and murder children deserve better than a death sentence. But it's a stretch to suggest that we are eroding society by executing such types.

    Especially considering that 2013 saw 39 executions in the USA. Capital punishment is hardly an overwhelming force or causal factor motivating these two misguided youths to go stab a peer trying to please the 'slender man'.

    Argument aside... it would be much more accurate at this point to say this is a case of two immature and slightly stupid kids void of love, void of good parenting, void of social acceptance and left to their own devices which led them to formulate and execute a really bad plan... instead of suggesting the Death Penalty or Obama made them do it.
    Missed my point. Society condones violence. We have violence everywhere. Our kids are barraged by it. Agree parenting a big influence but no denying we love us some violence. Not defending just pointing out side effects.

    Oh BTW Think killers are scum and when I hear of kids getting killed by some sick fk like to dip them in sugar and hang upside down on fire ants but realize not healthy and wrong.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    unsung said:

    josevolution said:

    goingtoverona said:

    i'm sure stuff like this happened 40 years ago, technology just wasn't what it is today so people didn't hear about it. we take it for granted that if we have a question about something we can look it up in a few seconds rather than going to a library. in my opinion, nothing has really changed, we just have the opportunity to hear about shit like this courtesy of technology.

    and i'm not sure what guns have to do with this girl getting stabbed.

    no your wrong shit like this didn't happen 40yrs ago young 12 yr old girls didn't go around stabbing younger girls for kicks that shit didnt happen the way it happens these days , go ahead look it up google it see what you come up remember 40yrs ago not two yrs ago ....

    It is the lacking of moral fibers.

    Right and morals come from society.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Not when society is corrupt.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    callen said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    callen said:

    Capital punishment

    MMA

    Rampant killing and violence in media

    Proliferation of guns with social acceptance.

    Kids are simply a byproduct of their environment.

    Stop using this platform to push your cause, Callen. We get it... you think people that go rape, torture, and murder children deserve better than a death sentence. But it's a stretch to suggest that we are eroding society by executing such types.

    Especially considering that 2013 saw 39 executions in the USA. Capital punishment is hardly an overwhelming force or causal factor motivating these two misguided youths to go stab a peer trying to please the 'slender man'.

    Argument aside... it would be much more accurate at this point to say this is a case of two immature and slightly stupid kids void of love, void of good parenting, void of social acceptance and left to their own devices which led them to formulate and execute a really bad plan... instead of suggesting the Death Penalty or Obama made them do it.
    Missed my point. Society condones violence. We have violence everywhere. Our kids are barraged by it. Agree parenting a big influence but no denying we love us some violence. Not defending just pointing out side effects.

    Oh BTW Think killers are scum and when I hear of kids getting killed by some sick fk like to dip them in sugar and hang upside down on fire ants but realize not healthy and wrong.
    I got your point and it is a fair one.

    However, when you offered your examples to validate your point, the first one you listed was the DP. I sought to point out to you that 39 executions in one year is hardly an epidemic nor a causal factor behind these two girls thinking they were doing something supernatural.

    Your other examples were fair- although I'm not quite ready to suggest the MMA leads to deranging minds.

    Every human being has strong and innate violent tendencies. This is why effective parenting is required. Kids will not develop into compassionate people capable of empathy on their own. Left unloved and to their own devices, the potential is there to develop into what we have read about here. Strong parenting and education has kids reconcile the violence in the world and the decent way to behave.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    callen said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    callen said:

    Capital punishment

    MMA

    Rampant killing and violence in media

    Proliferation of guns with social acceptance.

    Kids are simply a byproduct of their environment.

    Stop using this platform to push your cause, Callen. We get it... you think people that go rape, torture, and murder children deserve better than a death sentence. But it's a stretch to suggest that we are eroding society by executing such types.

    Especially considering that 2013 saw 39 executions in the USA. Capital punishment is hardly an overwhelming force or causal factor motivating these two misguided youths to go stab a peer trying to please the 'slender man'.

    Argument aside... it would be much more accurate at this point to say this is a case of two immature and slightly stupid kids void of love, void of good parenting, void of social acceptance and left to their own devices which led them to formulate and execute a really bad plan... instead of suggesting the Death Penalty or Obama made them do it.
    Missed my point. Society condones violence. We have violence everywhere. Our kids are barraged by it. Agree parenting a big influence but no denying we love us some violence. Not defending just pointing out side effects.

    Oh BTW Think killers are scum and when I hear of kids getting killed by some sick fk like to dip them in sugar and hang upside down on fire ants but realize not healthy and wrong.
    I got your point and it is a fair one.

    However, when you offered your examples to validate your point, the first one you listed was the DP. I sought to point out to you that 39 executions in one year is hardly an epidemic nor a causal factor behind these two girls thinking they were doing something supernatural.

    Your other examples were fair- although I'm not quite ready to suggest the MMA leads to deranging minds.

    Every human being has strong and innate violent tendencies. This is why effective parenting is required. Kids will not develop into compassionate people capable of empathy on their own. Left unloved and to their own devices, the potential is there to develop into what we have read about here. Strong parenting and education has kids reconcile the violence in the world and the decent way to behave.
    So Thirty, are you saying humans are inherently violent? Are we indeed a culture of Lord of the Flies? And if that is so, are we being unnatural when we call for things like peace and cooperation?

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    There must be something really wrong in those two girls life, that demon figure they liked so much what is that about ?
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,827
    unsung said:

    josevolution said:

    goingtoverona said:

    i'm sure stuff like this happened 40 years ago, technology just wasn't what it is today so people didn't hear about it. we take it for granted that if we have a question about something we can look it up in a few seconds rather than going to a library. in my opinion, nothing has really changed, we just have the opportunity to hear about shit like this courtesy of technology.

    and i'm not sure what guns have to do with this girl getting stabbed.

    no your wrong shit like this didn't happen 40yrs ago young 12 yr old girls didn't go around stabbing younger girls for kicks that shit didnt happen the way it happens these days , go ahead look it up google it see what you come up remember 40yrs ago not two yrs ago ....

    It is the lacking of moral fibers.


    Totally agree its all about the Parenting ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,964
    fucked up story for sure. stabbing someone is pretty violent, and to do it 19 times...gotta be some serious mental issues with these girls for sure. or at least the one girl. by the story seems like the one had some control over the other girl.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    brianlux said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    callen said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    callen said:

    Capital punishment

    MMA

    Rampant killing and violence in media

    Proliferation of guns with social acceptance.

    Kids are simply a byproduct of their environment.

    Stop using this platform to push your cause, Callen. We get it... you think people that go rape, torture, and murder children deserve better than a death sentence. But it's a stretch to suggest that we are eroding society by executing such types.

    Especially considering that 2013 saw 39 executions in the USA. Capital punishment is hardly an overwhelming force or causal factor motivating these two misguided youths to go stab a peer trying to please the 'slender man'.

    Argument aside... it would be much more accurate at this point to say this is a case of two immature and slightly stupid kids void of love, void of good parenting, void of social acceptance and left to their own devices which led them to formulate and execute a really bad plan... instead of suggesting the Death Penalty or Obama made them do it.
    Missed my point. Society condones violence. We have violence everywhere. Our kids are barraged by it. Agree parenting a big influence but no denying we love us some violence. Not defending just pointing out side effects.

    Oh BTW Think killers are scum and when I hear of kids getting killed by some sick fk like to dip them in sugar and hang upside down on fire ants but realize not healthy and wrong.
    I got your point and it is a fair one.

    However, when you offered your examples to validate your point, the first one you listed was the DP. I sought to point out to you that 39 executions in one year is hardly an epidemic nor a causal factor behind these two girls thinking they were doing something supernatural.

    Your other examples were fair- although I'm not quite ready to suggest the MMA leads to deranging minds.

    Every human being has strong and innate violent tendencies. This is why effective parenting is required. Kids will not develop into compassionate people capable of empathy on their own. Left unloved and to their own devices, the potential is there to develop into what we have read about here. Strong parenting and education has kids reconcile the violence in the world and the decent way to behave.
    So Thirty, are you saying humans are inherently violent? Are we indeed a culture of Lord of the Flies? And if that is so, are we being unnatural when we call for things like peace and cooperation?

    I'm saying we are evolving, but we still have a ways to go.

    Yes... we are inherently violent. We aren't quite as violent as the Roman Coliseum days, but we are not completely removed from that mentality either: look at the rubber-necking when we go by an accident scene or the packed pubs and bars for big ticket UFC events or some of the depressing news we read day in and day out. These typical situations serve as reminders for our inherent propensity for violence.


    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • goingtoverona
    goingtoverona Posts: 616
    I believe that you can view human beings on a spectrum. meaning on one end, you have a person who is the kindest, gentlest, most caring considerate generous person you have ever met. on the other end is gonna be the complete opposite of that. and then there is everyone in between. some degree of good or bad regardless of how they are raised.
    I bet too that if the world set up another roman coliseum exactly like it was back in the day, it would be sold out in seconds. for the same reason that people drive super slow by a wreck. they wanna see some blood and guts.
    if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Football is our modern rendition of roman coliseums. Men doing battle with spectators cheering.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,827
    callen said:

    Football is our modern rendition of roman coliseums. Men doing battle with spectators cheering.

    I agree but the real gladiators of these days are the MMA fighters ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
    Thinking about films like Gladiator, Caligula and Spartacus and can say, thankfully, we have become a bit less violent. And, gosh, it only took how many hundreds of years? :-(
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    But what about non-historical yet beloved violent films? Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill, Natural Born Killers (actually, one of my favorites). Long list of them.

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