Gendercide

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Agreed, chadwick - I think men are this too.
  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    edited May 2014
    hedonist said:

    Agreed, chadwick - I think men are this too.

    Well that's it all Comes downs to Equality and trying to find that Balance :)

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    And while we try to find this balance, exactly how do we respond to cultures that essentially view women as a sub-species?

    The posts I initially offered speak to something absolutely brutal.

    The weight of the world's problems are immense. I count my blessings daily. My Ukrainian grandparents did a great thing when they immigrated from Kiev back in the 50s. They never fared well in Canada, but their grandchildren have done okay.

    They sacrificed their lives to make a decent life for their children and lineage.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited May 2014
    hedonist said:

    Agreed, chadwick - I think men are this too.

    i would wager that there are far more kinder women than there are men
    it is not 50/50 & if anyone believes this they are not correct

    muammar gaddafi - female bodyguards
    that's was the shit
    he sucks but that concept was fantastic
    men should be surrounded by women, yes?

    oneday women will rule this planet - it is inevitable
    rise up
    Post edited by chadwick on
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    edited May 2014
    Yup, Thirty...I relate to the immigration aspect - my uncle brought the family here from Iran in the late 40s. Life there at that time wasn't even close to what it is now, but the opportunities were so much greater in the US. I'm so proud (edit - thankful too) of what that side of my family accomplished, and the lives they've afforded us.

    I think of how women are treated there now - not to mention gay people or anyone else who "defies" the rule - and the people who were recently arrested for making and dancing in a video...just fucked up and heartbreaking.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    hedonist said:

    Yup, Thirty...I relate to the immigration aspect - my uncle brought the family here from Iran in the late 40s. Life there at that time wasn't even close to what it is now, but the opportunities were so much greater in the US. I'm so proud (edit - thankful too) of what that side of my family accomplished, and the lives they've afforded us.

    I think of how women are treated there now - not to mention gay people or anyone else who "defies" the rule - and the people who were recently arrested for making and dancing in a video...just fucked up and heartbreaking.

    You know... I think I have the answer.

    We could all sell our Sevens and backpacks. Maybe 10C would donate a signed ukulele. Then, with the money we raise, we could send Chadwick to, say... India, to begin the process of correcting the unfortunate attitudes we see on display towards women.

    Once there, Chadwick can cruise the streets and when he hears of an impending wedding... he can make his way to the groom's house and proceed to slap people within it when they are briskly rubbing their palms together while creating their 'needs' list for the impending dowry.

    I get the feeling that this slap- if it's a quality slap that is- just might have the effect of clearing the heads so that they can begin to view the bride to be as a 'partner' instead of a commodity.

    Chadwick's a good slapper.

    Just a suggestion. I don't know.

    * Maybe we can send Godfather with Chadwick to so that he can experience another culture while immersed in it as part of his sensitivity training?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    And while we try to find this balance, exactly how do we respond to cultures that essentially view women as a sub-species?

    The posts I initially offered speak to something absolutely brutal.

    The weight of the world's problems are immense. I count my blessings daily. My Ukrainian grandparents did a great thing when they immigrated from Kiev back in the 50s. They never fared well in Canada, but their grandchildren have done okay.

    They sacrificed their lives to make a decent life for their children and lineage.

    Well that's Right...You just have to be Very Grateful for living in a Country where there is no Gendercide...a lot of us have Ancestors where they Moved to make a decent Life for there Lineage.

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Horrifying case:

    http://news.ca.msn.com/world/india-gang-rape-strangling-of-2-sisters-renews-public-outrage-1

    The villagers accused the chief of the local police station of ignoring a complaint by the girls' father Tuesday night that the girls were missing. The station chief has since been suspended.

    Girls viewed as low-caste 'untouchables'

    The family belongs to the Dalit community, also called "untouchables" and considered the lowest rung in India's age-old caste system.

    ...

    Records show a rape is committed every 22 minutes in India, a nation of 1.2 billion people. Activists say that number is low because of an entrenched culture of tolerance for sexual violence, which leads many cases to go unreported. Women are often pressed by family or police to stay quiet about sexual assault, experts say, and those who do report cases are often subjected to public ridicule or social stigma.

    Gang rape is rampant in India and to curb it... new laws make gang rape punishable by death. Yet, some 'old schoolers' feel that's excessive:

    Last month, the head of Uttar Pradesh state's governing party told an election rally that the party was opposed to the law calling for gang rapists to be executed.

    "Boys will be boys," Mulayam Singh Yadav said. "They make mistakes."


    Aaahh the boys. Yah. Maybe Mulyam Singh Yadav has a point. It's not like the guys are trying to hurt anyone (especially anyone significant)- they're just havin' fun for gawd's sakes.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    catefrances said:

    know1 said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    As a man... I can comfortably say (and have been saying it for a while) the only way this world has a chance is if women run it: no men behind the scenes pulling their strings either- just women and women alone.

    Men can be responsible for working and breeding- with 'play time' built into our schedules.

    I tend to agree. Or at least it should be much, much more balanced.
    please thats like saying if women ruled the world thered be no more wars.. and history has shown that thats bullshit
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Geez that whole GOP war on women kind of pales by comparison.

  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    thirty bills undone,

    violence & brutality are teachers when placed upon those who need schooled. most learn the wrongs of their ways & so they change their lives often in a hurry. for those who are stubborn headed the games last until who knows when.

    raping, gang raping, beatings & torturous acts will not be accepted.

    heads should be busted. going soft on beasts like this is the short coming of any society. women & children walk in light. fucking with that is not a healthy decision
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Chadwick...

    I need to be careful I guess. My post was dripping with sarcasm.

    Gang rapists can be executed in India for all I care- they're worthless pieces of scum in my books deserving of nothing. I completely understand why a massive portion of India is calling for their heads as of this moment.

    I'll likely get flamed now for saying so, but to all those gasping at such a comment... I stand by it. It's just not within my capacity to feel very sorry for a bunch of baboons who gang rape 14 year old girls, murder them, and make a spectacle of their bodies afterwards.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    No flames or gasping here, Thirty...I'm with you on this.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Education is the only answer. You can't force anyone into anything, history has proven this. These cultures, and our own, can only do it on our own.This cannot happen over night.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    dignin said:

    Education is the only answer. You can't force anyone into anything, history has proven this. These cultures, and our own, can only do it on our own.This cannot happen over night.

    No question.

    Awareness is the start to such a change effort though. I'm stunned that it has taken this long for a country such as India to begin to recognize the damaging and prevalent attitudes displayed towards women and members of the lower classes.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    hedonist said:

    No flames or gasping here, Thirty...I'm with you on this.

    Cheers.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    dignin said:

    Education is the only answer. You can't force anyone into anything, history has proven this. These cultures, and our own, can only do it on our own.This cannot happen over night.

    yes education
    education is also in smacking a guy upside the melon

    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    dignin said:

    Education is the only answer. You can't force anyone into anything, history has proven this. These cultures, and our own, can only do it on our own.This cannot happen over night.

    No question.

    Awareness is the start to such a change effort though. I'm stunned that it has taken this long for a country such as India to begin to recognize the damaging and prevalent attitudes displayed towards women and members of the lower classes.
    Absolutely

  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    chadwick said:

    dignin said:

    Education is the only answer. You can't force anyone into anything, history has proven this. These cultures, and our own, can only do it on our own.This cannot happen over night.

    yes education
    education is also in smacking a guy upside the melon

    I know it would make us feel better. ;)

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    chadwick said:

    dignin said:

    Education is the only answer. You can't force anyone into anything, history has proven this. These cultures, and our own, can only do it on our own.This cannot happen over night.

    yes education
    education is also in smacking a guy upside the melon

    Contrary to common opinion... this is a form of education.

    My dad used to give me a smack every now and then- when I deserved it. I learned some valuable lessons from those smacks. In particular, the following two very significant items worth learning:

    1. What is okay to do and what isn't.
    2. Gauging someone's tone and expression to know when I am pushing someone too far.
    "My brain's a good brain!"

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