Eddie Vedder - Salesforce private show

on2legs

As long as his art is not being influenced by the corporation that's paying him he's not selling out.

Hawk123

I'm just curious what songs he played, how long the set was.

PJForceofNature

Hawk123 said:

I'm just curious what songs he played, how long the set was.

Me too. Does anyone know the set list?

MayDay10

The music and performance still has integrity. People pay who want to see him perform. Same as always. If Walmart pays him to start writing jingles for them that's one thing... or if he plays for a bunch of neocons of bp or somwthing

mfc2006

bootlegger10 said:

oysterjar said:

I don't see working for money as selling out.

It is when you preached it was for a decade.

I didn't realize it was still 1994.

And musicians get paid? That's crazy!

bootlegger10

mfc2006 said:

bootlegger10 said:

oysterjar said:

I don't see working for money as selling out.

It is when you preached it was for a decade.

I didn't realize it was still 1994.

And musicians get paid? That's crazy!

Again, my original post indicated I didn't care and that we don't know if he was paid, how much, what he does with the money...

It is clearly selling out for Eddie to play a show for a corporation for money (if to pad the bank account). Is it a big deal? Nope.

Playing a show for a corporation and getting paid is not selling out on its own, but when you shout at people for 14 years that it is, and then do it yourself, that is selling out.

Integrity shouldn't change from 1994 to 2014. Especially in this example. The argument was in 1994 that money shouldn't be the focus and it is about the art. Well, as soon as the music industry changed and the money was't as plentiful, then it becomes okay to do commercials, TV, private shows, etc.... Clearly a situation where money was more important than art, but they just got paid more from CD's back then and could afford to take the "moral stand".

Again, I don't care like I would have 3 years ago when they did the Oracle show, but it is clearly selling out (whether it matters or not). It isn't like they do this very often though, so probably just helping out a friend.

vaggar99

it doesn't thrill me to see this sort of thing. But look at it this way. Ed is probable squeezing Saleforce for some major cash. he gets to vacation in Hawaii and his crew gets a nice pay day. Everyone wins!

mcrok

And don't forget...he is still playing music and does quite a fantastic job. Just so authentic...(then I think, I would love to have boots from the ed show's I've attended). Point is, he is playing music, getting in touch with an audience, definitely a few die hards there (so stoked)/maybe not, earning new fans along the way (which is good for PJ too). Yea, it is for money but---"don't you do it too..too?".

narnia

FYI -

Gap, Salesforce, Cisco make most ethical companies list:

blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2014/03/20/gap-salesforce-cisco-make-most-ethical-companies-list/

I've liked PJ through the years not just for their music but for the kind of people they are, and for the causes they support. I trust Ed's judgment, and he has a right to make his own choices in his life. I'm just jealous I wasn't there!

vaggar99

narnia said:

FYI -

Gap, Salesforce, Cisco make most ethical companies list:

blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2014/03/20/gap-salesforce-cisco-make-most-ethical-companies-list/

I've liked PJ through the years not just for their music but for the kind of people they are, and for the causes they support. I trust Ed's judgment, and he has a right to make his own choices in his life. I'm just jealous I wasn't there!

PJ played a show for Oracle a few years ago. I seriously doubt if they are on anyone's list of most ethical companies.

buck502000

500K in a suitcase - check
Round trip airline tickets for everyone that needs them - check
Two weeks all-inclusive 5 star resort - check

Happy Eddie - check

evenflow82

I wonder which song PJ will sell to wal mart...

vaggar99

There are a lot of hungry people in the world. seriously a lot. just saying

JB128716

Meh

mcgruff10

bootlegger10 said:

oysterjar said:

I don't see working for money as selling out.

It is when you preached it was for a decade.

so you re' the same person that you were 15 years ago? give me a break. kids change everything.

WhatYouTaughtMe

I actually left the fan club over the whole target commercial and what I perceived to be selling out. After awhile I came to realize how ridiculous I was. Jeff has stated one of the biggest misconceptions about the band is they hated money. The band does their own promotions and releases now, which is great, however there is a business side that isn't always pleasant that comes with it. As for the sales force show, Eddie Vedder and the band have gone above and beyond most artists involving social issues and influenced a lot of people over the years. I will give him a pass. If the band wanted to play on a walmart commercial as means to get publicity and stay relevant to modern society, more power to them. As long as they continue their philanthropy and raise awareness and money for good causes, I am fine with whatever they choose to do. If Eddie Vedder got paid a million dollars for that show and kept every cent for himself...WHO CARES. He has earned it and if it affords him the lifestyle to continue to do a lot of good in this world, even better. Lighten up people, musicians get paid to play music. Nothing new.

Zod

People seem to forget these things pop up every now and then. I myself attended a show in Vancouver in 2000 where the local radio station (99.9 the fox) seemed to have someone finangled Pearl Jam into playing an exclusive gig for the radio station. It was pretty cool to see them play a 2 hour set in a bar, but I always thought it was a bit wierd that they did a gig to promote a radio station.

The Hawaii one makes more sense to me. He probably got a good chunk of change to play it, and it's located in what seems to be one of his favorite places on Earth. How do you say no to a few hundred grand and a chance to spend some time in Hawaii.

I'm not that daft. I wouldn't say no to that.. lol.

ps. The target thing never bugged me. It was of a bit of a fad at the time. PJ didn't use a major label to release that album. Even if you don't use a major label you still need one for distribution. I thought they were trying something different. There are target's everywhere. Avoid using the major record labels for disitribution and use a major chain instead. They didn't do it twice so I guess they were pretty meh about the results. It was worth a shot. Trials and Errors of how to avoid using major music labels? Sort of a new territory to blaze in the 21st century.

bootlegger10

mcgruff10 said:

bootlegger10 said:

oysterjar said:

I don't see working for money as selling out.

It is when you preached it was for a decade.

so you re' the same person that you were 15 years ago? give me a break. kids change everything.

I never said he wasn't allowed to change his mind. I didn't realize that I can declare my views to 20,000 people every other night for 10 years, preach against others with opposing views, and then father some children and say, "well, my circumstances have changed so I'm going to change my mind".

I guess I thought the integrity of music didn't fade over time. You all act like he changed from yellow mustard to honey mustard or something.

Anyway, don't know the circumstances of the event so all speculation.

mcgruff10

bootlegger10 said:

mcgruff10 said:

bootlegger10 said:

oysterjar said:

I don't see working for money as selling out.

It is when you preached it was for a decade.

so you re' the same person that you were 15 years ago? give me a break. kids change everything.

I never said he wasn't allowed to change his mind. I didn't realize that I can declare my views to 20,000 people every other night for 10 years, preach against others with opposing views, and then father some children and say, "well, my circumstances have changed so I'm going to change my mind".

I guess I thought the integrity of music didn't fade over time. You all act like he changed from yellow mustard to honey mustard or something.

Anyway, don't know the circumstances of the event so all speculation.

You're judging a guy you know nothing about except for what you see on stage. So he said things for awhile; ed changed. Change is good.

Predaking

Damn I love me some SFDC. Such a great tool for sales...