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The Juggler

Jearlpam0925 said:

The Juggler said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

The Juggler said:

Thank God. 

Pretty shocked at pretty much everything, all things considered.
 
Gotta figure the orange man is toast, right? I mean I feel like I've said that 73949749 times, but this seems troubling for him.  Hopefully he burns everything to the ground.

Nnnnnope. He'll be there. R's can convince themselves of anyone running against the bogeymans on the left.

Biggest takeaways imo are:
1) Stephen Miller racist ass C4S commercials on TV nonstop turned people off.
2) huge that Dems kept/won governorships in states that will be critical in 2024.
3) PA State House has a very good chance of flipping.
4) the economy is doing fine
EDIT:5) oh, yeah, old white dudes suuuuuck. thank god for gen z kids coming out in droves, especially POC.

Now we get to watch Trump do everything in his power to try and destroy Desantis for the next couple years.....while, likely, being under indictment. 

Also....nah, I don't think the economy is really fine (only a matter of time before we see it in the unemployment #'s)...and will likely get worse next year....BUT.....it'll be on the mend at the best possible time in 2024.

I hear you, especially knowing the industry you're in I get where you're coming from - my point is/was that mid-terms for a sitting president is usually a total referendum up and down the ballot, and primarily the economy is the driving force. At the end of the day, on a very broad general sense - that is definitely not the case. Without getting into the weeds (I'll leave that in the stock market thread that is usually a dump on Elon which is cool) - the Fed has overreached. And for that I believe the economy will take a hit. But job numbers are job numbers, wages are still high. Inflation sucks, but economy isn't in the tank like one would think to affect the polls.

I don't think the fed will stop until the jobs numbers turn bad, which I bet will happen in next 6 months or so but who knows.

Yeah it was just a weird election. I think if it wasn't for Dobbs and if it wasn't for Trump throwing his weight behind terrible candidates, we're probably not feeling as good today. 

Johnny Abruzzo

The Juggler said:

Yeah it was just a weird election. I think if it wasn't for Dobbs and if it wasn't for Trump throwing his weight behind terrible candidates, we're probably not feeling as good today. 

In other words, Republicans being Republicans...

How insulting to all your neighbors to put up a Mastriano sign basically telling them they don't deserve their freedom of choice, freedom from religion, freedom to have their votes counted. They are who they are and they are beatable, and will remain so, because they suck.

Jearlpam0925

The Juggler said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

The Juggler said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

The Juggler said:

Thank God. 

Pretty shocked at pretty much everything, all things considered.
 
Gotta figure the orange man is toast, right? I mean I feel like I've said that 73949749 times, but this seems troubling for him.  Hopefully he burns everything to the ground.

Nnnnnope. He'll be there. R's can convince themselves of anyone running against the bogeymans on the left.

Biggest takeaways imo are:
1) Stephen Miller racist ass C4S commercials on TV nonstop turned people off.
2) huge that Dems kept/won governorships in states that will be critical in 2024.
3) PA State House has a very good chance of flipping.
4) the economy is doing fine
EDIT:5) oh, yeah, old white dudes suuuuuck. thank god for gen z kids coming out in droves, especially POC.

Now we get to watch Trump do everything in his power to try and destroy Desantis for the next couple years.....while, likely, being under indictment. 

Also....nah, I don't think the economy is really fine (only a matter of time before we see it in the unemployment #'s)...and will likely get worse next year....BUT.....it'll be on the mend at the best possible time in 2024.

I hear you, especially knowing the industry you're in I get where you're coming from - my point is/was that mid-terms for a sitting president is usually a total referendum up and down the ballot, and primarily the economy is the driving force. At the end of the day, on a very broad general sense - that is definitely not the case. Without getting into the weeds (I'll leave that in the stock market thread that is usually a dump on Elon which is cool) - the Fed has overreached. And for that I believe the economy will take a hit. But job numbers are job numbers, wages are still high. Inflation sucks, but economy isn't in the tank like one would think to affect the polls.

1) - I don't think the fed will stop until the jobs numbers turn bad, which I bet will happen in next 6 months or so but who knows.

2) - Yeah it was just a weird election. I think if it wasn't for Dobbs and if it wasn't for Trump throwing his weight behind terrible candidates, we're probably not feeling as good today. 

1) - Yeah and that's Powell's downfall. It's way way too aggressive. At the end of the day, though, big big biiiig picture - this isn't 2007/2008. It'll suck but not for long.

2) - Sure. If anything, I recall seeing these really vanilla Oz ads post-debate (hunky dory picket white fence houses, sunshine, families, nice white shirt wearing, you get the idea) that if he - and like every other psycho that runs as a Hard R - would take that approach they'd be much better at taking away peoples rights.

Aside from a party holding all three chambers to get anything substantive done, the next best outcome is a nearly 50/50 split where the extremes don't get to be lunatics, and god forbid people actually have to work toward a compromise.

In national elections - pretty fun to see that idiot Boebert lose.

The Juggler

Boebert losing is fucking awesome.

Johnny Abruzzo

The Juggler said:

Boebert losing is fucking awesome.

Still more votes to count right?

tempo_n_groove

The Juggler said:

Boebert losing is fucking awesome.

She's Colorado.  That doesn't even border anything near you.

Jearlpam0925

Johnny Abruzzo said:

The Juggler said:

Boebert losing is fucking awesome.

Still more votes to count right?

Yeah, trying to find better info. Looks like The Needle stopped forecasting at 4AM. From what I'm reading there's ~7% left in a very red county, and ~20% left in a "purple yet historically blue" county fwiw.

The Juggler

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

Boebert losing is fucking awesome.

She's Colorado.  That doesn't even border anything near you.

...Uh, yeah....and what is your point? 

pjhawks

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

Boebert losing is fucking awesome.

She's Colorado.  That doesn't even border anything near you.

yes but the country is better off without a complete nutjob and moron in Congress.  

Johnny Abruzzo

pjhawks said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

Boebert losing is fucking awesome.

She's Colorado.  That doesn't even border anything near you.

yes but the country is better off without a complete nutjob and moron in Congress.  

And prominent national election deniers really love to attack us PA voters.

Cliffy6745

Jearlpam0925 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

The Juggler said:

Thank God. 

Pretty shocked at pretty much everything, all things considered.
 
Gotta figure the orange man is toast, right? I mean I feel like I've said that 73949749 times, but this seems troubling for him.  Hopefully he burns everything to the ground.

Nnnnnope. He'll be there. R's can convince themselves of anyone running against the bogeymans on the left.

Biggest takeaways imo are:
1) Stephen Miller racist ass C4S commercials on TV nonstop turned people off.
2) huge that Dems kept/won governorships in states that will be critical in 2024.
3) PA State House has a very good chance of flipping.
4) the economy is doing fine
EDIT:5) oh, yeah, old white dudes suuuuuck. thank god for gen z kids coming out in droves, especially POC.

He'll be there, but is there any way this doesn't end in a DeSantis/Trump civil war, with Trump likely losing and probably burning everything to the ground?

Jearlpam0925

Cliffy6745 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

The Juggler said:

Thank God. 

Pretty shocked at pretty much everything, all things considered.
 
Gotta figure the orange man is toast, right? I mean I feel like I've said that 73949749 times, but this seems troubling for him.  Hopefully he burns everything to the ground.

Nnnnnope. He'll be there. R's can convince themselves of anyone running against the bogeymans on the left.

Biggest takeaways imo are:
1) Stephen Miller racist ass C4S commercials on TV nonstop turned people off.
2) huge that Dems kept/won governorships in states that will be critical in 2024.
3) PA State House has a very good chance of flipping.
4) the economy is doing fine
EDIT:5) oh, yeah, old white dudes suuuuuck. thank god for gen z kids coming out in droves, especially POC.

He'll be there, but is there any way this doesn't end in a DeSantis/Trump civil war, with Trump likely losing and probably burning everything to the ground?

I think DeSantis will get owned by Trump, and, yes, Trump has absolutely no problem taking any and everyone down with him.

And as cool as that sounds, Republicans will always find a way to justify voting for whatever that burning pile of garbage ends up being over any Dem candidate. Because that's totally normal behavior.

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

Boebert losing is fucking awesome.

She's Colorado.  That doesn't even border anything near you.

tempo_n_groove

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

Boebert losing is fucking awesome.

She's Colorado.  That doesn't even border anything near you.

...Uh, yeah....and what is your point? 

Point taken, lol.

tempo_n_groove

Jearlpam0925 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

The Juggler said:

Thank God. 

Pretty shocked at pretty much everything, all things considered.
 
Gotta figure the orange man is toast, right? I mean I feel like I've said that 73949749 times, but this seems troubling for him.  Hopefully he burns everything to the ground.

Nnnnnope. He'll be there. R's can convince themselves of anyone running against the bogeymans on the left.

Biggest takeaways imo are:
1) Stephen Miller racist ass C4S commercials on TV nonstop turned people off.
2) huge that Dems kept/won governorships in states that will be critical in 2024.
3) PA State House has a very good chance of flipping.
4) the economy is doing fine
EDIT:5) oh, yeah, old white dudes suuuuuck. thank god for gen z kids coming out in droves, especially POC.

He'll be there, but is there any way this doesn't end in a DeSantis/Trump civil war, with Trump likely losing and probably burning everything to the ground?

I think DeSantis will get owned by Trump, and, yes, Trump has absolutely no problem taking any and everyone down with him.

And as cool as that sounds, Republicans will always find a way to justify voting for whatever that burning pile of garbage ends up being over any Dem candidate. Because that's totally normal behavior.

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

Boebert losing is fucking awesome.

She's Colorado.  That doesn't even border anything near you.

Easy there Cuck.

Johnny Abruzzo

PA Dems declared victory in the State House!

The Juggler

Johnny Abruzzo said:

PA Dems declared victory in the State House!

What a fascinating turn of events these last 24 hours have been. haha

Jearlpam0925

Pretty amazing. Shapiro and Fetts really pulled everyone up with them. Not to be a downer but I think the State House majority will be short-lived. Times like these it shows how dumb a bicameral House is at the State level.

Jearlpam0925

https://twitter.com/LennyDykstra/status/1590407856435576832?t=KwJQ5RWguM7UnVM7mpR_pQ&s=19

Wobbie

^^^^ unfortunately, that race is only a couple of hundred votes apart.

I hope Lenny is right but he’s not the most stable individual.

Johnny Abruzzo

Lauren & Lenny should go into business together. What could go wrong? Also JP way to bring that whole thing back to being in the "Philadelphia Phillies" category.