PHILLY (Loosely Related to The Philadelphia Phillies)

Ledbetterman10

The Juggler said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Welp just paid for really good Phils playoff tickets. This is good juju for me - the pit in my stomach due to the cash out the door will be worth it if they win, and if they don't make it I'll be relieved to have that cash back in my account.

If we make the playoffs but don't get even one home playoff game...did we really make the playoffs?

I think that's part of the reason there is no juice surrounding this team, despite possibly winning 90ish games

I say yes for two reasons.

1) It's not like that one-off wildcard came they used to do which basically a glorified game 163. At least it's a series, even if it'll be all on the road and they'll more than likely lose.

2) Hey beggars can't be choosers. It's been 11 years since they've been in the postseason. I remember enjoying the living hell out of them playing Colorado in 2007, even though they got smoked, because it had been so long. 

Jearlpam0925

The Juggler said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Welp just paid for really good Phils playoff tickets. This is good juju for me - the pit in my stomach due to the cash out the door will be worth it if they win, and if they don't make it I'll be relieved to have that cash back in my account.

If we make the playoffs but don't get even one home playoff game...did we really make the playoffs?

I think that's part of the reason there is no juice surrounding this team, despite possibly winning 90ish games

Listen, birdman, there's plenty of juice around the playoffs. BUT going on to shit the bed the past week ain't helping!

Is it the playoffs if the Mets end up dropping into the wildcard and pray to god we end up playing them in the WC round? You betchyourass. I will certainly be going to Citi Field for one of those games.

Also part of the reason there's no juice is because this is just not a likeable team. The least they can do is win.

Baseball is so completely different in the playoffs, especially now with this format. Literally any team has a legitimate shot at winning. Any advantages are so incredibly small.

The Juggler

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Welp just paid for really good Phils playoff tickets. This is good juju for me - the pit in my stomach due to the cash out the door will be worth it if they win, and if they don't make it I'll be relieved to have that cash back in my account.

If we make the playoffs but don't get even one home playoff game...did we really make the playoffs?

I think that's part of the reason there is no juice surrounding this team, despite possibly winning 90ish games

I say yes for two reasons.

1) It's not like that one-off wildcard came they used to do which basically a glorified game 163. At least it's a series, even if it'll be all on the road and they'll more than likely lose.

2) Hey beggars can't be choosers. It's been 11 years since they've been in the postseason. I remember enjoying the living hell out of them playing Colorado in 2007, even though they got smoked, because it had been so long. 

Yeah I hear you....but, say, they make it to game 3. That would be a Sunday afternoon and they'd likely be playing the same time as the Eagles. If they lose, it'll be forgotten by most people before the SNF game kicks off. 

I just don't have any sort semblance of the enthusiasm I had back in '07. Not even remotely close.
Couple of differences for me: 1-That team won the division. 2-That team was also a whole hell of a lot more likeable than this one is. 

Johnny Abruzzo

It's like, you have the 2017 13-3 Eagles going into the playoffs with home field and a bye, and you had the 2021 9-8 Eagles going to Tampa in the Wild Card Round. Potentially either could win the Super Bowl, but you of course are more excited about the 13-3 team.

The Juggler

Jearlpam0925 said:

The Juggler said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Welp just paid for really good Phils playoff tickets. This is good juju for me - the pit in my stomach due to the cash out the door will be worth it if they win, and if they don't make it I'll be relieved to have that cash back in my account.

If we make the playoffs but don't get even one home playoff game...did we really make the playoffs?

I think that's part of the reason there is no juice surrounding this team, despite possibly winning 90ish games

Listen, birdman, there's plenty of juice around the playoffs. BUT going on to shit the bed the past week ain't helping!

Is it the playoffs if the Mets end up dropping into the wildcard and pray to god we end up playing them in the WC round? You betchyourass. I will certainly be going to Citi Field for one of those games.

Also part of the reason there's no juice is because this is just not a likeable team. The least they can do is win.

Baseball is so completely different in the playoffs, especially now with this format. Literally any team has a legitimate shot at winning. Any advantages are so incredibly small.

Yeah playing the Mets would completely change the landscape.

F Me In The Brain

I didn't realize the wild card series was completely at the higher ranked teams' stadium.
Interesting....
Hope the Phillies draw the Cardinals.  Fuck the Cardinals, youse guys can best their asses!

Jearlpam0925

Also bothers me they don't reseed for the division series.

Ledbetterman10

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Welp just paid for really good Phils playoff tickets. This is good juju for me - the pit in my stomach due to the cash out the door will be worth it if they win, and if they don't make it I'll be relieved to have that cash back in my account.

If we make the playoffs but don't get even one home playoff game...did we really make the playoffs?

I think that's part of the reason there is no juice surrounding this team, despite possibly winning 90ish games

I say yes for two reasons.

1) It's not like that one-off wildcard came they used to do which basically a glorified game 163. At least it's a series, even if it'll be all on the road and they'll more than likely lose.

2) Hey beggars can't be choosers. It's been 11 years since they've been in the postseason. I remember enjoying the living hell out of them playing Colorado in 2007, even though they got smoked, because it had been so long. 

Yeah I hear you....but, say, they make it to game 3. That would be a Sunday afternoon and they'd likely be playing the same time as the Eagles. If they lose, it'll be forgotten by most people before the SNF game kicks off. 

I just don't have any sort semblance of the enthusiasm I had back in '07. Not even remotely close.
Couple of differences for me: 1-That team won the division. 2-That team was also a whole hell of a lot more likeable than this one is. 

Oh me neither. That span of 2005-2011 is the mecca of Phillies baseball for me and I can't see anything beating it. Partially for the run of success, but also, as you said, for the actual guys on the team. I was cheering on Utley during his heel-turn with the Dodgers like he was still a Phillie, but I doubt I'll care about any of these current guys when they move on to new teams. 

Still, it'd be nice to see them back in the postseason. 

Jearlpam0925

My god this team is imploding.

The Juggler

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Welp just paid for really good Phils playoff tickets. This is good juju for me - the pit in my stomach due to the cash out the door will be worth it if they win, and if they don't make it I'll be relieved to have that cash back in my account.

If we make the playoffs but don't get even one home playoff game...did we really make the playoffs?

I think that's part of the reason there is no juice surrounding this team, despite possibly winning 90ish games

I say yes for two reasons.

1) It's not like that one-off wildcard came they used to do which basically a glorified game 163. At least it's a series, even if it'll be all on the road and they'll more than likely lose.

2) Hey beggars can't be choosers. It's been 11 years since they've been in the postseason. I remember enjoying the living hell out of them playing Colorado in 2007, even though they got smoked, because it had been so long. 

Yeah I hear you....but, say, they make it to game 3. That would be a Sunday afternoon and they'd likely be playing the same time as the Eagles. If they lose, it'll be forgotten by most people before the SNF game kicks off. 

I just don't have any sort semblance of the enthusiasm I had back in '07. Not even remotely close.
Couple of differences for me: 1-That team won the division. 2-That team was also a whole hell of a lot more likeable than this one is. 

Oh me neither. That span of 2005-2011 is the mecca of Phillies baseball for me and I can't see anything beating it. Partially for the run of success, but also, as you said, for the actual guys on the team. I was cheering on Utley during his heel-turn with the Dodgers like he was still a Phillie, but I doubt I'll care about any of these current guys when they move on to new teams. 

Still, it'd be nice to see them back in the postseason. 

I would start that run all the way back to 2001, to be honest. I know they were frustrating as hell for years but they were always decent and that is when the nucleus of the WFC began to be put in place.

Ledbetterman10

Yeah that really was the start. Bowa taking over, early Burrell and J-Roll, peak Aubreu…

The Juggler

Ledbetterman10 said:

Yeah that really was the start. Bowa taking over, early Burrell and J-Roll, peak Aubreu…

Cursing out Lieberthal on a nightly basis....good times!

Wonder how many wildcards those teams would've made with this new format

Ledbetterman10

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Yeah that really was the start. Bowa taking over, early Burrell and J-Roll, peak Aubreu…

Cursing out Lieberthal on a nightly basis....good times!

Wonder how many wildcards those teams would've made with this new format

That’s a good question. I feel there was a couple years from 2001-2006 that could’ve  been a sixth seed. 

Johnny Abruzzo

This is currently a "playoff" team that is essentially unwatchable aside from when maybe 3 pitchers are on the mound. Remember the real old days when you had to finish in 1st place in a 6 or 7 team division just to make the playoffs? What was so bad about that?

The Juggler

Johnny Abruzzo said:

This is currently a "playoff" team that is essentially unwatchable aside from when maybe 3 pitchers are on the mound. Remember the real old days when you had to finish in 1st place in a 6 or 7 team division just to make the playoffs? What was so bad about that?

I miss those days

Jearlpam0925

If we're gonna get all BACK IN MY DAY about baseball I hold my time to bitch for when this bullshit ban on the shift starts.

The Juggler

Jearlpam0925 said:

If we're gonna get all BACK IN MY DAY about baseball I hold my time to bitch for when this bullshit ban on the shift starts.

Well that is a change I am looking forward to. lol

Stark had a column that talked about the upcoming changes the other day. Minor league games are coming in close to two and a half hours now compared to 3 since they implemented a lot of the same rule changes we're getting next year. 

Bigger bases have also meant a whole hell of a lot more stolen bases....which is fun! 

Jearlpam0925

....wut? You like bastardizing one of the things that makes baseball baseball? That being that anyone can play it based on one's own approach and adapting to the circumstances presented to them? You like putting dumb arbitrary rules into place?

I can get down with the pitch clock. 

I don't think the size of the bases will make as much as a difference as the pitch clock will, in combination with the incoming limit on pickoff attempts. Then baserunners absolutely have an advantage.

But all this shit also means a robo ump is coming. Which is also stupid.

I'm gonna go outside and shake my fist at the cloud outside...

Jearlpam0925

....AND ANOTHER THING. There's a completely hypocritical aspect of this argument anytime I hear it, too - whether it's from the commissioner or a fan. You can't speed up a game (pitch clock) and increase offense (banning the shift). More offense means longer games which negates any benefit of the pitch clock.

Johnny Abruzzo

Definitely looking fwd to the pitch clock. It's torture watching these dudes fuss on the mound with 10 minute negotiations with their catcher over every pitch. Throw the damn ball already.

I can't imagine bigger bases will make a noticeable difference, but maybe I'm not as smart as I think I am.

For some reason the 2 following things I read are randomly funny:
"Pattison Station will be renamed AT&T Station, but Pattison Ave. will remain Pattison Ave."
"Based will be enlarged, but home plate will remain the same size."

It really sucked to watch the R6 era be torpedoed by a 4th outfielder, so I get it, but maybe it should be up to the batters to adjust? Is the Tampa Bay Rays World Series Game 3 5-man infield (the "blitz") going to be illegal?