Westboro Baptist Church founder Fred Phelps is dead
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That being said: The world is now a better place.
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
maybe he will meet his f@g hatin god and realize that he, himself, was the one who deserved to have been hated.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I hope that doesn't happen. I hope we do not lower our morals to the standards set by Rev. Phelps.
I hope that with his death... comes the beginning of the end of the Westboro Baptist Chuch and their horrible moral conduct.
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I aslo do not shed a tear for him. Let's bury his message with him and move forward.
Hail, Hail!!!
on Phelps, I thought I felt the world become a little bit of a better place today. Spent so much energy on ridiculous endeavors...
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
I am glad he's dead.
I completely understand. I just don't think we should become the monster that disgusts us.
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I think the best way to deal with them is to use humor to make them look like the idiots they are. We should rally to the funerals they target and instead of tryig to drown them out with even louder shouts... make funny sign and stand next to them for Facebook pictures as if they are animals at the zoo and says ridiculous shit while people take your picture. Make their media grab... ours. Make it so we are the one the press puts on the screens, not them.
I think a sign that says, 'MAN ASS (you know you want it)' a sign that just says 'FAG' with an velco backed arrow so you could stand next the the guy with the 'GOD HATES FAGS' sign and have your sign pointing at him... that'd be funny, right? Hell... make a sign that says, 'PLAY LEASH YOU PUSSIES' as an inside joke just to get a laugh from the Pearl Jam crowd.
Remember, WE have the same rights as they do. They have used our rights to legally protest... we can do the exact same thing. They do not own that public sidewalk... I can stand there with my signs, just the same as me. If they touch me... I can claim assault and have them arrested. Turn the tables on them and have fun in doing so.
That would be my tactic.
Hail, Hail!!!
in a situation like this, i think indifference is the greatest form of vengeance.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
And I would add that his tombstone will likely see its share of urine over the years.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Daily deal, what we did right, what we did wrong. If it doesnt cause harm and can be helpful admit it to the one(s) we wronged. Either way its designed to help us toward better behavior.
I tend to think that those folks and him in particular could have benefited from this exercise.
For those that do, pray his god has the tolerance and forgiveness he so readily ignored.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Then, ironically, this came to mind from Tool's song of the same name -
"He had a lot to say...he had a lot of nothing to say"
(won't miss him though)
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Read on:
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/2/19/chris_hedges_on_american_fascists_the
...A new book by Chris Hedges called "American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War On America" investigates the highly organized and well-funded "dominionist movement." The book investigates their agenda, examines the movement’s origins and motivations and uncovers its ideological underpinnings. "American Fascists" argues that dominionism seeks absolute power in a Christian state. According to Hedges, the movement bears a strong resemblance to the young fascist movements in Italy and Germany in the 1920s and ’30s.
Chris Hedges: This is a new movement, as embodied by people like James Dobson or Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell, who call for the creation of a Christian state, who talk about attaining secular power. And they are more properly called dominionists or Christian reconstructionists, although it’s not a widespread term, but they’re certainly not traditional fundamentalists and not traditional evangelicals. They fused the language and iconography of the Christian religion with the worst forms of American nationalism and then created this sort of radical mutation, which has built alliances with powerful rightwing interests, including corporate interests, and made tremendous inroads over the last two decades into the corridors of power.
...AMY GOODMAN: We’re talking to Chris Hedges. His latest book called American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America. We were just talking about Pat Robertson. I wanted to go back to that famous quote of his. This had to do with foreign policy and the Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.
...CHRIS HEDGES: That’s a deeply Christian message, calling for assassination. You know, I covered the war in Central America, and Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell came down to support the murderous rampages of Rios Montt in Guatemala, the military dictatorship that were running death squads that were killing 800 to 1,000 people a month in El Salvador, and, of course, the Contras, whose main contribution in Nicaragua was walking into towns drunk out of their mind, raping the women and killing the men and burning the villages. And they describe these battles as essentially a war against Satan, against Satanic forces, godless communism that had to be defeated. There are no international boundaries in Satan’s kingdom, if you look at it from their ideology. I think that the kinds of the wholehearted support for genocidal killers in Central America, which Pat Robertson was one of the stalwarts, is a tip-off as to, you know, without legal restraints, what they would like to do within our own borders.
And I think that the quote or the clip that you just played is a perfect illustration of how dark the intentions of this movement is and how, if we don’t begin to stand up and fight back, if we believe that these people can be domesticated and brought into the political arena where they will act responsibly, we’re very, very naive. And we should all sit down, and as unpalatable as it is, and listen to Christian — so-called Christian radio and television to see the kinds of messages of hate and exclusion that they are spewing out over the airwaves.
AMY GOODMAN: The quote of Jerry Falwell right after September 11th that became quite famous: "I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America, I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.'" He was speaking on September 13, 2001, on Pat Robertson’s 700 Club program.
CHRIS HEDGES: That’s right. And, you know, this is — I mean, essentially, when you follow the logical conclusion of the ideology they preach, there really are only two options for people who do not submit to their authority. And it’s about submission, because these people claim to speak for God and not only understand the will of God, but be able to carry it out. Either you convert, or you’re exterminated. That’s what the obsession with the End Times with the Rapture, which, by the way, is not in the Bible, is about. It is about instilling — it’s, of course, a fear-based movement, and it’s about saying, ultimately, if you do not give up control to us, you will be physically eradicated by a vengeful God. And that lust for violence, I think that sort of — you know, the notion, that final aesthetic being violence is very common to totalitarian movements, the belief that massive catastrophic violence can be used as a cleansing agent to purge the world. And that’s, you know, something that this movement bears in common with other despotic and frightening radical movements that we’ve seen over the past — throughout the past century.
...CHRIS HEDGES: Well, that’s a really important point, because none of these movements can take power unless there is a period of prolonged instability or a crisis. They can make creeping gains, and they have made tremendous gains, including taking hundreds of millions of dollars of American taxpayer money through the faith-based initiative program. But I think, as weak as our democracy is, we can hold them off, unless we enter a period of instability.
AMY GOODMAN: Christian Zionist Movement, how does it fit into this?
CHRIS HEDGES: Well, the relationship between this radical movement and the radical right in Israel is one that really brings together Messianic Jews and Messianic Christians who believe that they have been given a divine or a moral right to control one-fifth of the world’s population who are Muslim. It’s a really repugnant ideology. The radical Christian right in this country is deeply anti-Semitic. I mean, look at what they — you know, when the end times come, except for this 144,000 Jews who flee to Petra and are converted — I think this was a creation of Tim LaHaye — Jews will be destroyed, along with all other nonbelievers, including people like myself who are nominal Christians, in their eyes. You know, there is no respect for Judaism in and of itself. It’s an abstraction. It’s, you know, Jews have to control Israel, because that is one more step towards Armageddon. And I find that alliance strange and very shortsighted on the part of many rightwing Israelis and rightwing Jews in the United States.
...CHRIS HEDGES: And there’s a bill now in the Texas state legislature that will abolish all mention of evolution in school textbooks and make Bible study mandatory in public schools. And the role of creationism is extremely important in this movement. It’s not just wacky pseudoscience. It is really a war against truth. It is not about presenting an alternative. It’s about saying facts are interchangeable with opinions, that lies are true, that we can believe whatever we want. And once they successfully elevate creationism, which, of course, is a myth — I mean, teaching creation out of the Book of Genesis is an absurdity. The writers of the Book of Genesis thought the earth was flat with rivers of above and below us. But what it does is destroy the possibility or sanctity of honest, dispassionate, intellectual and scientific inquiry. And when they do that, they have made a huge step towards creating a totalitarian state.
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
protesting any funeral that would have happened for him would probably make him smile in his grave anyways
I think that line to piss on his grave is going to pretty long.
And I guess I should have said to bury his hateful message with him and encourage his followers to preach the message of Jesus... which is love.
Hail, Hail!!!
We should have fun at their expense by making it common place at all of their protests.... like this:
Hail, Hail!!!
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce