To answer the question: no. Most if not all of the 9/11 truthers have been proven wrong. I'm not sure the government is smart enough to keep that shit a secret anymore.
By now everyone has seen some type of conspiracy theory related to tragic events. You have 9/11 Truthers, Waco, Ok City, Boston, Conn school shootings, Colorado movie shooting. Why is everything on the school shooting still classified? Look at all of the fishy things that happened at Boston. Some of this doesn't line up.
So, does anyone put much stock into claims that these tragic events are really created and carried out by the US government? Does anyone think that they would really do such things? Or do you think it absolutely insane for people to even begin thinking that way?
What, pray tell, are all "the fishy things that happened in Boston?"
And to answer the question, no, "false flag events" is a term coined by right wing nut jobs so they can spew from their lap top inside a Starbucks, while their website runs ads that say, "Click here to donate $5.00 now to prevent Obama's gun grab."
To answer the question: no. Most if not all of the 9/11 truthers have been proven wrong. I'm not sure the government is smart enough to keep that shit a secret anymore.
99.999% of government officials would have basically zero idea of what is going on. some may have slight ideas but with dead end attachments. others may have other ideas opposite of their constituents with dead endings, yet somehow, someway, all this bullshit works together.
yes all governments fuck around with story telling & twisted trails of bizarre plottings.
first & foremost... do not ever believe everything your government tells you. do not ever believe everything is on the up & up because it is not. most people could not ever be as crafty as the good folks setting out & undertaking black operations. they themselves do not have all the bits & pieces to the puzzle. they do exactly what their job entails & that is all, they move on & the next stage is set up in the falling domino effect in operations
the us is brilliant at this game as are the terrorists we chase around
In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba. Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities. The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro.
... I don't think anyone here belives that our government is not capable of terrible deeds... but, in this example... it was not carried out. It may mean that during a risk analysis session on the Cuban issue, some fucking nut case came up with this hair-brained plan. It was probably conceived under the same premise that got us into Cuba in 1899... Remember the Maine? Thankfully, others in the military/government saw this as a bad idea and scrapped it in favor of the Bay Of Pigs fiasco. But, yes, our strategic planners can come up with some pretty heinous plans... and hopefully, voted down in favor of a less heinous plan.
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To answer the question: no. Most if not all of the 9/11 truthers have been proven wrong. I'm not sure the government is smart enough to keep that shit a secret anymore.
... People that believe that the government is comprised of evil masterminds that are capable of orchestrating these attacks and keeping it all a secret... also believe that they cannot tie their own shoes without almost strangling themselves with the laces. Evil geniuses... or pea-brained imbiciles? Which is it?
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Hail, Hail!!!
This is public information...that leaked. What's your point?
How long after did it leak tho? I don't recall. I forget what the terms are on the FOIA....seems most of this stuff comes to light much too late to matter, and is often tampered with before it leaks. I would imagine we will find out more about 9/11 once Cheney and co are dead and gone. I find all of this stuff fascinating, and don't buy for a second that no one in the government is capable of planning and burying a mastermind type plan. We're not talking about your dipshit local congressman planning terror attacks. We're talking about the most highly trained and equipped military and intelligence personnel in the world. They are exactly the people capable of these kinds of plans. the people in government involved in these things would be (are) working in concert with private sector (or black market) financiers and 'security' firms /mercenaries, which makes it even easier to keep things off record, avoiding prying eyes. There are so many examples of these scandals; to think these stories end where we are told they do is naive at best...
If anyone thinks bin laden was taken out per the official story/movie, sorry, but you're a fool. How was that kept quiet? How did the Dixie Mafia keep their whole story from being told? How did Rove spin Bush's coke use without it ruining his political career? What happened to so many 'witnesses' to strange happenings surrounding 9/11? Follow the trail of bodies....people ARE silenced, we don't hear much about it tho,and those stories become conspiracies of their own. But I can guess this with a fair amount of certainty - it doesn't take many 'examples' to shut people up.
And I wish Alex jones would fuck off. He discredits every valid question asked outside the mainstream. He's made 'conspiracy' and 'false flag' dirty words, that get you shut up before you start talking. Sad.
To answer the question: no. Most if not all of the 9/11 truthers have been proven wrong. I'm not sure the government is smart enough to keep that shit a secret anymore.
Wrong. Dozens of "official version" accounts of events fail to pass scrutiny to this day. This statement rings just as hollow as If you had said "most if not all the JFK theorists have been proven wrong".
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yes all governments fuck around with story telling & twisted trails of bizarre plottings.
first & foremost... do not ever believe everything your government tells you. do not ever believe everything is on the up & up because it is not. most people could not ever be as crafty as the good folks setting out & undertaking black operations. they themselves do not have all the bits & pieces to the puzzle. they do exactly what their job entails & that is all, they move on & the next stage is set up in the falling domino effect in operations
the us is brilliant at this game as are the terrorists we chase around
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I don't think anyone here belives that our government is not capable of terrible deeds... but, in this example... it was not carried out. It may mean that during a risk analysis session on the Cuban issue, some fucking nut case came up with this hair-brained plan. It was probably conceived under the same premise that got us into Cuba in 1899... Remember the Maine?
Thankfully, others in the military/government saw this as a bad idea and scrapped it in favor of the Bay Of Pigs fiasco.
But, yes, our strategic planners can come up with some pretty heinous plans... and hopefully, voted down in favor of a less heinous plan.
Hail, Hail!!!
People that believe that the government is comprised of evil masterminds that are capable of orchestrating these attacks and keeping it all a secret... also believe that they cannot tie their own shoes without almost strangling themselves with the laces. Evil geniuses... or pea-brained imbiciles? Which is it?
Hail, Hail!!!
I would imagine we will find out more about 9/11 once Cheney and co are dead and gone.
I find all of this stuff fascinating, and don't buy for a second that no one in the government is capable of planning and burying a mastermind type plan. We're not talking about your dipshit local congressman planning terror attacks. We're talking about the most highly trained and equipped military and intelligence personnel in the world. They are exactly the people capable of these kinds of plans. the people in government involved in these things would be (are) working in concert with private sector (or black market) financiers and 'security' firms /mercenaries, which makes it even easier to keep things off record, avoiding prying eyes. There are so many examples of these scandals; to think these stories end where we are told they do is naive at best...
If anyone thinks bin laden was taken out per the official story/movie, sorry, but you're a fool. How was that kept quiet? How did the Dixie Mafia keep their whole story from being told? How did Rove spin Bush's coke use without it ruining his political career? What happened to so many 'witnesses' to strange happenings surrounding 9/11? Follow the trail of bodies....people ARE silenced, we don't hear much about it tho,and those stories become conspiracies of their own. But I can guess this with a fair amount of certainty - it doesn't take many 'examples' to shut people up.
And I wish Alex jones would fuck off. He discredits every valid question asked outside the mainstream. He's made 'conspiracy' and 'false flag' dirty words, that get you shut up before you start talking. Sad.
Dozens of "official version" accounts of events fail to pass scrutiny to this day. This statement rings just as hollow as If you had said "most if not all the JFK theorists have been proven wrong".
Just read a few of these non-sensationalized points that still seem far from "proved wrong" and think for yourself:
http://www.consensus911.org/the-911-consensus-points/
If I opened it now would you not understand?