Low crowd noise on boots reduces the enjoyment!

i_lov_it

It Adds to the Show

nicknyr15

cutz said:

Can, the people who want crowd noise, just get an audience recording?

No

PJ_Soul

cutz said:

Can, the people who want crowd noise, just get an audience recording?

We could, but the sound quality of the music isn't as good, and the crowd noise is there on aud boots, but so are the conversations and singing of the people right near the recording device. That can be kind of funny the first time you listen, but you don't want it on your mp3 players, lol. We want the best of both worlds! High quality sound plus the crowd noise!

Last-12-Exit

I just listened to the charlotte boot. you can barely hear the crowd. I know we were louder than that. That building was huge. I think that made it difficult for eddie to hear the crowd. As a result, no sing a long during betterman. Ed did the entire first verse. We even sounded weak during the tag. But the crowd was into it.

Last-12-Exit

damn double post

karmadefect

The crowd should be noticable on the bootleg.
It is an important element of the night.
And it makes a bootleg stand out.

ceska

Yup - Worcester 1 the crowd cheers in the middle of a random part of Long Road but only because the arena camera zoomed in on Ed's Boston Strong patch. Don't hear that on the official boot at all, but it was one of those "moments."

PJ_Soul

Yeah, listened to the Vancouver boot today, and it actually sounds stupid in some parts. Like when Eddie talks about how well the crowd is singing, and you can't hear anything, lol. And during Betterman when he fucks the song up and says it was because he was listening to the crowd sing, but you can't hear shit. And during Daughter he stops and just lets the audience sing, and it's just dead time. You can't hear them, even though the crowd was busting it out. The frustrating part is that you CAN hear the crowd during the It's Okay tag, which means that it was a conscious choice to leave out the crowd noise for the rest of the boot, and then to turn it up during It's Okay (because they kind of had to). Lame. I think I'm going to stick to the audience boot!

Mudfest

I listened to the Calgary show and it sounds WAY over produced. WTF ?

Betterman sounds like it was recorded in a studio with 3 people singing.
It actually sounds almost Comical .

karmadefect

Where can I listen to the show?
Was it different from boots from other boots this tour?

jp307677

Absolutely, crowd noise= energy. I didn't even realize it, was it part of the editing to turn the crowd noise down? Maybe the crowds weren't that loud?

PJ_Soul

jp307677 said:

Absolutely, crowd noise= energy. I didn't even realize it, was it part of the editing to turn the crowd noise down? Maybe the crowds weren't that loud?

They did it on purpose. You can tell on the Vancouver boot, not only because I was there and know that the crowd was killer, but also because they turned the crowd noise up during It's Okay on the boot, but you still can't hear the crowd when I know they were louder.

northerndragon

I've been listening to the seattle boot and the crowd seems pretty loud on this one. It's nice to hear but now that I do I really wish the other boots I got had at least the same amount of crowd noise.

jp307677

This is disappointing. I like to hear to show exactly the way it was...crowd noise and interaction, screwups, everything.

2-feign-reluctance

How are you guys listening to the shows? Audience coming through fine with decent headphones, FLAC playback through iTunes, also burned to mp3 disc in my factory issued car stereo. The Sirens reprise sounds great in every city - save maybe for the first few bars once the crowd gets it & joins in.

i_lov_it

jp307677 said:

I like to hear to show exactly the way it was...crowd noise and interaction, screwups, everything.

Exactly it's a 'Live' Show and not an Album

Veddernarian

I like these 2013 boots. I would rather have the band clear and the crowd in the background. I thought, for example, that the USA 2000 boots sound horrible. I think they were professionally crowd-mic'd with little or nothing from the soundboard. I commonly found myself frustrated with the sound quality. 2003 was a little better but was too sharp in the upper midrange. And no bass. As if Jeff stayed at home. Progressively getting better over the years, 2013 sounds like a professionally mixed live album. Everything is there. It's down to preferences now. If you want to miss the toilet and pee all over the floor and wall so your bathroom smells like the one at the LA Sports Arena in order to give you a more concert-like experience, that's your parogative and I won't try to stop you. To me, excessive crowd noise falls under that category. I personally would rather listen to a professional sounding recording of the concert rather than a dumbed down recording which includes too much crowd, echo, etc. I think 2013 has the perfect mix. There is both but the music takes precedence. It's great. At the LA Sports arena, I thought the sound in the arena sucked. It's great to now fully relish what the band actually played.

karmadefect

I've kept this in mind while listening to the boots and I must say it isn't that bad at all.
I'd say it is quite similair to other years.

OceanInDisguise13

I completely agree with you. I don't like the way these boots were done. They don't sound like previous boots I have. I'm very disappointed!!

heyjose

Veddernarian said:

I like these 2013 boots. I would rather have the band clear and the crowd in the background. I thought, for example, that the USA 2000 boots sound horrible. I think they were professionally crowd-mic'd with little or nothing from the soundboard. I commonly found myself frustrated with the sound quality. 2003 was a little better but was too sharp in the upper midrange. And no bass. As if Jeff stayed at home. Progressively getting better over the years, 2013 sounds like a professionally mixed live album. Everything is there. It's down to preferences now. If you want to miss the toilet and pee all over the floor and wall so your bathroom smells like the one at the LA Sports Arena in order to give you a more concert-like experience, that's your parogative and I won't try to stop you. To me, excessive crowd noise falls under that category. I personally would rather listen to a professional sounding recording of the concert rather than a dumbed down recording which includes too much crowd, echo, etc. I think 2013 has the perfect mix. There is both but the music takes precedence. It's great. At the LA Sports arena, I thought the sound in the arena sucked. It's great to now fully relish what the band actually played.

You left off 2006 in your post. Have you heard Sydney 1 from that tour? Just listen to Release, and tell me it doesn't give you chills. Why? The crowd.

I wouldn't consider those boots having 'excessive crowd noise', but rather a great mix that adds the atmosphere lacking in these boots. I can still crank those up and really appreciate the music.

Since that tour, the boots have failed to capture the experience, for me. And the Sydney BDO show is soon to be released. That show had an incredible vibe, which, if the crowd is not properly represented, won't come through on the boot.