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Why is the USPS arming itself?

unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
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http://benswann.com/us-postal-service-preparing-for-mass-gunammuniton-buy/

Seriously someone explain how this is necessary.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    doesn't make much sense on the surface but the government always has a $$$ reason for everything.
    the postal service could never be used for anything militant, they are normal folks like us, not brainwashed like some military and some police.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    The USPS complains that they are broke, there's no reason that they should be making this purchase.

    Are there too many Fidos disrupting mail service?
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    They are about to go Postal.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    edited February 2014
    On who?


    Ok, now that that joke is out of the way who can justify this?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    USPS is only going broke because Congress is forcing it out of business. Congress is forcing the USPS to pre-fund their Pension Plan for the next 70 years.
    Does this make sense? Only if you want to drive it under and sell it off to UPS and Fedex.
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    unsung said:

    The USPS complains that they are broke, there's no reason that they should be making this purchase.

    Are there too many Fidos disrupting mail service?

    detroit has more wild dogs than any other city. many neighborhoods in detroit do not get their mail delivered anymore due to the endless packs of urban wild ass dogs that have for generations not been taken care of by a person.

    mail carriers there are attacked often. that is when mail delivery stops in that neighborhood. sure, they should be carrying some heat
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    can you imagine delivering the mail into the shithole areas of some of our finer cities? kiss my frickin ass, i'd like a gun myself.
    i would bet a lot of $$$ that many have been for yrs carrying without ever even saying a peep about it to anyone
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    chadwick said:

    unsung said:

    The USPS complains that they are broke, there's no reason that they should be making this purchase.

    Are there too many Fidos disrupting mail service?

    detroit has more wild dogs than any other city. many neighborhoods in detroit do not get their mail delivered anymore due to the endless packs of urban wild ass dogs that have for generations not been taken care of by a person.

    mail carriers there are attacked often. that is when mail delivery stops in that neighborhood. sure, they should be carrying some heat
    I just read up on this- I had no idea of this 'development'.

    WTF? Seriously?

    I thought I knew of the unemployment, poverty and growing criminal activity... but this takes it to yet another level.

    Is there an upside to Detroit that I am unaware of? Why live there?
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:



    Is there an upside to Detroit that I am unaware of? Why live there?

    Dead or alive, your coming with me.
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    detroit has lost somewhere around 500,000 residence in very recent times. 500,000 is the size of seattle (give or take)
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    chadwick said:

    detroit has lost somewhere around 500,000 residence in very recent times. 500,000 is the size of seattle (give or take)

    I'm aware of this trend. Sad.

    Metropolis ghost town/ wasteland.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    The first time I went to Detroit I was amazed that a city like it existed in America.

    That said, GO WINGS!
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    Jason P said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:



    Is there an upside to Detroit that I am unaware of? Why live there?

    Dead or alive, your coming with me.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Idris said:

    Jason P said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:



    Is there an upside to Detroit that I am unaware of? Why live there?

    Dead or alive, your coming with me.
    RoboCop!
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    many gang bangers in detroit & elsewhere enjoy a good old fashioned dog fight as their recreational activity. many of those dog are used up & turned loose on the streets. that is only a fractions of the dogs & where they came from. many people moved out & left behind their dogs & cats & whatnot. entires homes filled with furniture, clothing & whatnot.

    dogs breeding, puppies being raised up on trash. those puppies growing up, breeding & the cycle continues. there are many decent groups trying to help but it isn't easy. these street dogs have thousands of houses & empty buildings to live in, like the old detroit car factories for example. it all still stands but vacant of people working. fucking weird stuff
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

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    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,050
    Ooooo, so very scary. From the fob.gov website and the solicitation:

    "This is a standard purchase of ammunition to meet the law enforcement needs of the United States Postal Inspection Service and Postal Police."

    And I'm sure all the gun and ammo manufacturers will refuse to sell to the "big, bad Government" because you know, they have moral standards to uphold.

    Consider the source before you get all outraged.

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  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    Jason P said:

    Idris said:

    Jason P said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:



    Is there an upside to Detroit that I am unaware of? Why live there?

    Dead or alive, your coming with me.
    RoboCop!
    Speaking of RoboCop ... The sacrilegious remake is only PG-13!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Uff Da ....
    Ridiculous! They gotta maximize those ticket sales, all about the money. (I'm still gonna check it out, eventually)
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    It's really getting pointless posting here anymore.
  • iwasatpj20iwasatpj20 Posts: 3,412
    In all my understanding of purchases, not even the US military purchases or uses hollow point ammunition that the USPS is buying. I do not trust this one bit, and have always been in wonder why the US government is purchasing loads of hollow point ammunition. With hollow point ammunition for those who do not know, small entry hole, big exit.
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    unsung said:

    It's really getting pointless posting here anymore.

    Well spit it out then, Unsung.

    What are you hoping to hear from someone?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,050
    For anyone who might want to understand "how this is necessary."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Inspection_Service

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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    See I view that as a problem in itself, it's just more authoritarian government under the guise of law enforcement. Couldn't one of the tens of other branches of law enforcement handle that? The USPS is so special that they demand their own???
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    unsung said:

    It's really getting pointless posting here anymore.

    Well spit it out then, Unsung.

    What are you hoping to hear from someone?

    An honest argument why the mail service needs to be armed. Instead it's fucking jokes about Detroit. Liberal run into the ground Detroit I might add.
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    unsung said:


    Are there too many Fidos disrupting mail service?

    pretty funny! (unsung)
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    unsung said:

    See I view that as a problem in itself, it's just more authoritarian government under the guise of law enforcement. Couldn't one of the tens of other branches of law enforcement handle that? The USPS is so special that they demand their own???

    So for you, the problem is more authoritarian government under the guise of law enforcement?

    Any suggestions on what we can do about it?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    i remember all of the outrage when reagan, bush 1 and bush 2 tried to do anything at all with their administration.

    wait, i don't because there was no fucking outrage....

    why was none of this an issue when reagan and bush 1 and 2 president?

    if it were one of those 3 i am sure there would have been no problem.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,605
    what better way to take the guns of hardworking americans than by using the USPS as spies and have them armed to be the frontline for weapons confiscation.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,605
    unsung said:

    See I view that as a problem in itself, it's just more authoritarian government under the guise of law enforcement. Couldn't one of the tens of other branches of law enforcement handle that? The USPS is so special that they demand their own???

    Just more? isnt this the first? If the history stated in this wiki article is accurate?
    Why THE VERY FOUNDERS of the nation thought this was a good idea.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,051
    I remember when National Park rangers became armed. Many people were upset about that but not so much because they viewed it as "more authoritarian government under the guise of law enforcement" but more as an indicator that people/society had become more dangerous and violent. Sorry to say but none of this surprises me.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,094
    unsung said:

    See I view that as a problem in itself, it's just more authoritarian government under the guise of law enforcement. Couldn't one of the tens of other branches of law enforcement handle that? The USPS is so special that they demand their own???

    Are you sure it's more authoritarian government? It's been around an awfully long time. It sounds like you're advocating for more centralized government by having other law enforcement agencies do what they do. Maybe it's better to have the usps deal specifically with mail related crimes.

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