after 2 billion complaints each why be here? it is not a prison it is not a concrete block around one's feet it is not the playboy mansion it is not a pile of humbolt's best not a not a not a
it just aint
These are like lyrics, chadwick. Made me smile, thank you.
And Hugh - AMT is a racist pile of shit to hang out in where no constructive dialogue ever happens anymore?
Kind of harsh and hateful.
I get something out of it from time to time - even more than that, actually - and I think most discuss issues civilly and fairly openly - up until your comments here, I'dve included you too.
Those folks certainly have my respect, even if our thoughts diverge.
It isnt just the forum changes, but i think that was the last straw for many, like myself. The new album is their worst ever, they keep putting out sub par member packages, making more t shirts that no one would wear, lost dogs is running rampant with nothing but flippers, AMT is a racist piece pile of shit to hang out in where no constructive dialogue ever happens anymore....its just....done.
Exaggerate much?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
It isnt just the forum changes, but i think that was the last straw for many, like myself. The new album is their worst ever, they keep putting out sub par member packages, making more t shirts that no one would wear, lost dogs is running rampant with nothing but flippers, AMT is a racist piece pile of shit to hang out in where no constructive dialogue ever happens anymore....its just....done.
Exaggerate much?
that's just how I see it. fine if you don't agree.
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It isnt just the forum changes, but i think that was the last straw for many, like myself. The new album is their worst ever, they keep putting out sub par member packages, making more t shirts that no one would wear, lost dogs is running rampant with nothing but flippers, AMT is a racist piece pile of shit to hang out in where no constructive dialogue ever happens anymore....its just....done.
Exaggerate much?
that's just how I see it. fine if you don't agree.
Lost Dogs is running rampant with nothing but flippers? They are making t-shirts that no one would wear? No constructive dialogue ever happens in the AMT anymore? These things are just not true. It's not a matter of opinion.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
after 2 billion complaints each why be here? it is not a prison it is not a concrete block around one's feet it is not the playboy mansion it is not a pile of humbolt's best not a not a not a
it just aint
These are like lyrics, chadwick. Made me smile, thank you.
And Hugh - AMT is a racist pile of shit to hang out in where no constructive dialogue ever happens anymore?
Kind of harsh and hateful.
I get something out of it from time to time - even more than that, actually - and I think most discuss issues civilly and fairly openly - up until your comments here, I'dve included you too.
Those folks certainly have my respect, even if our thoughts diverge.
Sorry you see it otherwise.
Not hateful.
it's not the good people over at AMT I'm talking about. it's the constant baiting and flaming that goes on. it's rampant, and it has effectively killed any reasonable dialogue that can go on. I used to get something out of it. I enjoyed open discussions about things, not EVEN with people I disagreed with, but ESPECIALLY with people I disagreed with, cause you don't learn anything from whose opinion you share. I learned a lot from people who didn't share my views and remained respectful about it. But almost all of the recent discussions I was last involved with over there almost always turn into insult-fests. So to me there's no point anymore.
But, as gimme said at the beginning of this thread, it's actually a positive that I don't spend as much time on here anymore. At one point, I was coming here way too often. Now that I'm rarely here, I don't even turn on my pc anymore at home. So it's almost a relief!
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Fair enough if you're not interested in the talk about merch, but why not just ignore those threads? I mean, whatever, do what you want, but I just don't see why merch discussions would actually drive people away when we can all choose which threads to pay attention to and which ones to ignore. Some people like discussing merch. I see nothing wrong with that.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
it's the constant attacking thing. I obviously have no issues with people talking about merch, it's people who attack people who bitch. bitching about bitching. people don't see the fucking irony in doing that. and I don't know what a thread contains until I read it, so how do I know which threads to stay away from? I saw a thread titled "mystery box", so I clicked on it, thinking someone one was going to be excited to tell us what they got. if it said "this US only shipping shit is annoying", then I wouldn't have opened it.
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my point is not to try to convince anyone else to leave. people just seem to be getting all bent out of shape about people leaving, then passive-agressively telling people "you aren't forced to be here". same old shit.
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he made some very good points earlier in this very thread on why the changes were no good for him esthetically.
I'm also saying "who?" but I'm not being a smartass. who is " he"?
dimitrispearljam.
I've never met the guy....I guess he's cool....but as far as this forum, he didn't have a lot to say.....a bunch of lols and smilies.
now....let's get back to talking about stupid shit.....but be careful.
If I had known then what I know now...
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my point is not to try to convince anyone else to leave. people just seem to be getting all bent out of shape about people leaving, then passive-agressively telling people "you aren't forced to be here". same old shit.
I think people (not me ) get bent out of shape not because people leave, but because it's such a drag for them to go somewhere that they still enjoy and are attempting to have a good time chatting with others who are there for the same thing and all these people are shitting all over what they are trying to enjoy and saying that what people are chatting about sucks, etc. It's just a huge drag for the people who still want to be here. I guess saying "you aren't forced to be here" is their way of saying "please shut up about how much you hate the place and let those who want to be here enjoy it".
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
he racked up 17 billion posts by typing "lol" or :(|)
i've nothing against the man, he is a hoot, but his 17 billion posts might should actually read 3 not 17,000,000,000
He never hurt anyone - who cares what he posted otherwise (and he did post plenty of useful shit btw)? Also, let's not talk about it, since it will get the thread locked.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
dimi, PJ, Hugh, chad.....you're all aces in my book....I had no idea this was such a touchy topic.
If I had known then what I know now...
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WOW #-o . I guess I haven't missed all too much since I've been away from this site. Hope things pick up a bit with more tour info.
Seems that needlessly it's getting harder, to find an approach and a way to live
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^^^^ I had no idea there was a face palm in the new smilies!
at least there's that #-o
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"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
pj. me.
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why be here? it is not a prison
it is not a concrete block around one's feet
it is not the playboy mansion
it is not a pile of humbolt's best
not a not a not a
it just aint
These are like lyrics, chadwick. Made me smile, thank you.
And Hugh - AMT is a racist pile of shit to hang out in where no constructive dialogue ever happens anymore?
Kind of harsh and hateful.
I get something out of it from time to time - even more than that, actually - and I think most discuss issues civilly and fairly openly - up until your comments here, I'dve included you too.
Those folks certainly have my respect, even if our thoughts diverge.
Sorry you see it otherwise.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
it's not the good people over at AMT I'm talking about. it's the constant baiting and flaming that goes on. it's rampant, and it has effectively killed any reasonable dialogue that can go on. I used to get something out of it. I enjoyed open discussions about things, not EVEN with people I disagreed with, but ESPECIALLY with people I disagreed with, cause you don't learn anything from whose opinion you share. I learned a lot from people who didn't share my views and remained respectful about it. But almost all of the recent discussions I was last involved with over there almost always turn into insult-fests. So to me there's no point anymore.
But, as gimme said at the beginning of this thread, it's actually a positive that I don't spend as much time on here anymore. At one point, I was coming here way too often. Now that I'm rarely here, I don't even turn on my pc anymore at home. So it's almost a relief!
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http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/232498/mystery-box#latest
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now....let's get back to talking about stupid shit.....but be careful.
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i've nothing against the man, he is a hoot, but his 17 billion posts might should actually read 3 not 17,000,000,000
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I guess saying "you aren't forced to be here" is their way of saying "please shut up about how much you hate the place and let those who want to be here enjoy it".
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like anyone could ever have 17,000,000,000 posts & actually only have 3 that weren't "lol" or :(|)
that's funny & not at all serious or meant to be harmful
sarcasm is good fun
i am not sorry that i am not very serious 24x7
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
As to opening / knowing to avoid certain threads, it'd be great to get that hover feature back here - mouse over a topic and get the gist.
In case anyone's listening :>
i'll just leave it, whatev.
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Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Constant Recoil..Sometimes life, Don't leave you alone
When the anxious is the present, unwrap your gifts, take your time
at least there's that #-o
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VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
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Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14