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usamamasan1

Fact and truth.

USA has a second amendment

backseatLover12

usamamasan1 wrote:

Fact and truth.

USA has a second amendment and a lot of little bitches that need to be corrected.

And this is a reaction that is full of hate. You must hate yourself, sir. WHY?

Cosmo

usamamasan1 wrote:

Fact and truth

Only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

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Does that apply to the Crip gang member that kills a Blood gang member and prevents him from killing his Crip gang member buddy? If what you say truly is truth... He's a good guy, right?

Godfather.

Cosmo wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

if one person's views or beliefs are not the .."norm" here why are their ideas and post's met with so much anger and hate ? I and a few others have had replys to our posts that show a sign of the same "fear' AND "hate" that we are accused of,any thoughts on that ?

Godfather.

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It depends on what the topic is and what the viewpoint is, sir.
Example... if the 'norm' is to believe that all people have the right to live and the lone opposition view is that only a select group of people, those whom are like the one expressing the opinion, should have that right... you should expect to be on the receiving end of a ton of disagreements... some of those rebuttals being hostile in nature.
Another example... if the 'norm' is to believe that the Moon is a barren wasteland that is incapable of supporting life... but, your view is that the President is being controlled by a race of beings that live on the dark side of the Moon in order to prevent the course of the United State from fulfilling its true destiny... reverting to the society of 1952, then, again... you should expect a ton of disagreements, most of which question your intelligence and/or sanity.
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So... to avoid these types of reactions from the 'norm'... which the definition of the 'norm' being; "From NORMAL people"... I would suggest that the person who feels targeted should form his opinion in fact and truth. Mostly because normal people of the 'norm' understand it is difficult to argue with fact and impossible to argue with truth.
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Merry Christmas, sir.

agreed Cosmo but I have to tell you that in most or some cases here on the train "facts" are more a matter of opinion, just for the sake of argument most on here believe that there is life in another universe outside ours, well intll someone shows me otherwise I'm not believing it, and this goes for other issues talked about on the train...some agree some don't .

Godfather.

backseatLover12

Godfather. wrote:

I will agree that I don't "post in a way that enables discussion".....but I don't believe I'm "mean spirited".....stand tall behind my beliefs and opinion yeah...I have said before to someone else on here that if we had ever met you might think differently,I normally will not argue politics or faith with someone I meet or don't know well ..in fact I keep a small circle of friends/Brothers and sense we all agree on most issues there is no argument
and I can tell you for certin I will never be a victim and don't claim to be,I was just pointing out some thing's and trying not to use other people to make a point.

Godfather.

I don't think you're mean spirited, but you do post garbage from Fox News as credible news stories sometimes. If we want to talk fact, get away from the Fox frame of mind and actually cite more truthful sources.

Godfather.

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Godfather...

On a personal note... I think there is a quality human being contained within that mass of skin, muscle and bone that you see looking at you in the mirror.

There is no question that you have presented yourself, at times, in a manner that isn't exactly endearing to some others; but I have seen some of the- if I could be so bold to call them this- 'rough edges' begin to erode.

I certainly wouldn't want you to abandon your core values, but I do feel that moving from some 'extreme' positions to a more 'balanced' position would be better for you.

Of course... feel free to take this message and tell me to stuff myself with it!

Note: I was going to cut and paste to a pm and maybe I should have. It's just that this thread seems to be a bit personal and in the public setting. There have been criticisms levied and I think this serves as something not so critical.

I have always said we can learn something from everybody we meet and I try., and no hard feeling man (no need to stuff it)


Godfather.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

usamamasan...

You retracted your 'kill 'em all' comment. You have been doing a lot of retracting the last couple of days- speaking out of anger and thinking better of it.

On this note, I wish to apologize for my you're part of the problem comment in an earlier exchange. I didn't really care for the undertones of the message I took exception to, but the comment I expressed took the conversation to a level it really didn't need to go to.

Cosmo

Godfather. wrote:

agreed Cosmo but I have to tell you that in most or some cases here on the train "facts" are more a matter of opinion, just for the sake of argument most on here believe that there is life in another universe outside ours, well intll someone shows me otherwise I'm not believing it, and this goes for other issues talked about on the train...some agree some don't .

Godfather.

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Regarding this:
"I have to tell you that in most or some cases here on the train "facts" are more a matter of opinion"
Opinions based in fact. Meaning what you say is based in fact or truth, not feeling.. or belief. For example, the truth is that 1 + 1 = 2. You may believe in your heart of hearts that 1 + 1 = 11... but, your belief has no impact on the fact that 1 + 1 = 2.
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Regarding this:
"Just for the sake of argument, most on here believe that there is life in another universe outside ours, well intll someone shows me otherwise I'm not believing it."
This is a case of belief vs. belief because you cannot prove that one side is true, based upon known facts. That is how the God discussions turn out... neither side can prove, using facts, that God exists... or God does not exist. Truth and fact support neither side, so it is all just personal opinion, based upon feeling or belief.

Godfather.

backseatLover12 wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

I will agree that I don't "post in a way that enables discussion".....but I don't believe I'm "mean spirited".....stand tall behind my beliefs and opinion yeah...I have said before to someone else on here that if we had ever met you might think differently,I normally will not argue politics or faith with someone I meet or don't know well ..in fact I keep a small circle of friends/Brothers and sense we all agree on most issues there is no argument
and I can tell you for certin I will never be a victim and don't claim to be,I was just pointing out some thing's and trying not to use other people to make a point.

Godfather.

I don't think you're mean spirited, but you do post garbage from Fox News as credible news stories sometimes. If we want to talk fact, get away from the Fox frame of mind and actually cite more truthful sources.

but but...it's "fair and ballanced"
I just enjoy FOX news and I also enjoy CNN and S.D local news to me no news source is 100% with the facts.

Godfather.

Cosmo

usamamasan1 wrote:

Fact and truth

Only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

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Also... if what you say is true... then the sniper who kills an armed, uniformed soldier from a foriegn country who is trying to impose the will of that foriegn nation upon his (the sniper's) homeland... the sniper is the good guy... a hero, right?

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Godfather. wrote:

but but...it's "fair and ballanced"
I just enjoy FOX news and I also enjoy CNN and S.D local news to me no news source is 100% with the facts.

Godfather.

so then how come NEVER a link from CNN or SD local news?? maybe cause they don't spin stories that fit your personal view of the world?

brianlux

usamamasan1 wrote:

Fact and truth

Only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

Of course we all already figured out this thread would bring the trolls out of the woods. Take in the sunshine and throw your hatred down.

Godfather.

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

but but...it's "fair and ballanced"
I just enjoy FOX news and I also enjoy CNN and S.D local news to me no news source is 100% with the facts.

Godfather.

so then how come NEVER a link from CNN or SD local news?? maybe cause they don't spin stories that fit your personal view of the world?

so wise guy...it just so happens that the health care thread I started this morning was a CNN story with a link from CNN and not FOX News, but as you say I do enjoy the "twist" Fox spins on their news


Godfather.

Godfather.

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

but but...it's "fair and ballanced"
I just enjoy FOX news and I also enjoy CNN and S.D local news to me no news source is 100% with the facts.

Godfather.

so then how come NEVER a link from CNN or SD local news?? maybe cause they don't spin stories that fit your personal view of the world?

OHHHHHHHH GEEEEZE DUDE you even posted on it...I believe this is one of the ....few times I can say GOTCHYA

Godfather.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Godfather. wrote:

OHHHHHHHH GEEEEZE DUDE you even posted on it...I believe this is one of the ....few times I can say GOTCHYA

Godfather.

so you finally posted ONE article not from Fox. Good for you. which thread was that that I posted in?

Godfather.

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

OHHHHHHHH GEEEEZE DUDE you even posted on it...I believe this is one of the ....few times I can say GOTCHYA

Godfather.

so you finally posted ONE article not from Fox. Good for you. which thread was that that I posted in?

can't find it....... but it was NOT my last health care thread. :silent:


Godfather.

chadwick

foxnews does for a fact have stunning women in some pretty badass business lady outfits

where did they get their name? fox news
yeah ok

foxnews is right about one thing... nice ass legs & boobs

Godfather.

chadwick wrote:

foxnews does for a fact have stunning women in some pretty badass business lady outfits

where did they get their name? fox news
yeah ok

foxnews is right about one thing... nice ass legs & boobs

see it's not a total waste


Godfather.

gimmesometruth27

chadwick wrote:

foxnews is right about one thing... nice ass legs & boobs

for me, all of those things are worthless without a beautiful, intelligent, mind to go with them. call me crazy, but there is nothing more intoxicating than a serious conversation with a beautiful, supersmart woman. the hosts on fox all lack the intelligence i require to find them hot. then again, i really try not to objectify them as well.

hedonist

GF, I'd hope only for the first three words of this thread title.

Was just listening to some old live Simon & Garfunkel...The Boxer.

"still a man he hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest"

I can apply that to myself, for sure...and I do, with the proviso that I must also be willing to admit my views could use a re-examination.

I actually like doing that from time to time. It's like cleaning out the closets - purging, confirming, refreshing.

Well!

That rambling up there of good pot aside :P , I wish you a happy Christmas eve and holiday. There aren't many I agree with on all issues, even my husband, but somehow there's always common ground to be found...and room for putting differences aside.

ps to gimme...agreed on the brain/mind in all its glory. There is NOTHING as much of a turnon as that.