We all think we're right

Godfather.

if one person's views or beliefs are not the .."norm" here why are their ideas and post's met with so much anger and hate ? I and a few others have had replys to our posts that show a sign of the same "fear' AND "hate" that we are accused of,any thoughts on that ?


Godfather.

Jason P

Think?

I have a Magic 8-Ball. I know all. Bow before my allmighty powers!

Godfather.

Jason P wrote:

Think?

I have a Magic 8-Ball. I know all. Bow before my allmighty powers!

AWESOME !!!!!!!


Godfather.

Pap

Crumbles of racism...

rightcoaster

Sometimes those that claim to be the most tolerant are the most intolerant.

BinFrog

Godfather. wrote:

if one person's views or beliefs are not the .."norm" here why are their ideas and post's met with so much anger and hate ? I and a few others have had replys to our posts that show a sign of the same "fear' AND "hate" that we are accused of,any thoughts on that ?


Godfather.

It's not the message, it's the method. You, of all people, need to learn that. That's my "thought on that".

I love a good debate. You do not post in a way that enables discussion. I can't tell if you purposefully try to piss everyone off who have different viewpoints than you, or if you just don't know how to engage people in a good debate...and frankly I don't care. There's a reason people seem to lash out at you: You don't give them much to work with. You are condescending and mean-spirited, and then you act defensive when people call you out.

And you're acting like you're a victim now? Please.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

BinFrog wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

if one person's views or beliefs are not the .."norm" here why are their ideas and post's met with so much anger and hate ? I and a few others have had replys to our posts that show a sign of the same "fear' AND "hate" that we are accused of,any thoughts on that ?


Godfather.

It's not the message, it's the method. You, of all people, need to learn that. That's my "thought on that".

I love a good debate. You do not post in a way that enables discussion. I can't tell if you purposefully try to piss everyone off who have different viewpoints than you, or if you just don't know how to engage people in a good debate...and frankly I don't care. There's a reason people seem to lash out at you: You don't give them much to work with. You are condescending and mean-spirited, and then you act defensive when people call you out.

And you're acting like you're a victim now? Please.

:thumbup:

Godfather.

BinFrog wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

if one person's views or beliefs are not the .."norm" here why are their ideas and post's met with so much anger and hate ? I and a few others have had replys to our posts that show a sign of the same "fear' AND "hate" that we are accused of,any thoughts on that ?


Godfather.

It's not the message, it's the method. You, of all people, need to learn that. That's my "thought on that".

I love a good debate. You do not post in a way that enables discussion. I can't tell if you purposefully try to piss everyone off who have different viewpoints than you, or if you just don't know how to engage people in a good debate...and frankly I don't care. There's a reason people seem to lash out at you: You don't give them much to work with. You are condescending and mean-spirited, and then you act defensive when people call you out.

And you're acting like you're a victim now? Please.

victim ? I normally react with the likeness that I have been approached.


Godfather.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

and I think your thread title says a lot about your behaviour here. not all of us think we're right. if we did, what would be the point of discussion? we discuss to learn, even if it doesn't change our views, it might change our own perspective.

I don't come here to change people's views on things. I come here to challenge my own.

Godfather.

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

and I think your thread title says a lot about your behaviour here. not all of us think we're right. if we did, what would be the point of discussion? we discuss to learn, even if it doesn't change our views, it might change our own perspective.

I don't come here to change people's views on things. I come here to challenge my own.

very cool,but why resort to names like jackass ? or gun nuts ?.......guns don't have nuts but really my whole thought on this topic is that people that denounce violance often use to get a point across or to let the OP or others know that thay are angery or in disagreement....we all have done it so why is it necessary for some to call the kettle black ? I'm not judging anybody as I said "we all have done it" I'm just pointing out what I have noticed on this moving train.


Godfather.

backseatLover12

Godfather. wrote:

if one person's views or beliefs are not the .."norm" here why are their ideas and post's met with so much anger and hate ? I and a few others have had replys to our posts that show a sign of the same "fear' AND "hate" that we are accused of,any thoughts on that ?


Godfather.

Life is 10% of what happens and 90% of the reaction to what happens. It's up to you, how you react.

Godfather.

backseatLover12 wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

if one person's views or beliefs are not the .."norm" here why are their ideas and post's met with so much anger and hate ? I and a few others have had replys to our posts that show a sign of the same "fear' AND "hate" that we are accused of,any thoughts on that ?


Godfather.

Life is 10% of what happens and 90% of the reaction to what happens. It's up to you, how you react.

I gotta say it.........awesome friggin post !


Godfather.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Godfather. wrote:

if one person's views or beliefs are not the .."norm" here why are their ideas and post's met with so much anger and hate ? I and a few others have had replys to our posts that show a sign of the same "fear' AND "hate" that we are accused of,any thoughts on that ?


Godfather.

I think there is quite a large range of attitudes and beliefs that are acceptable and respected here.

Some attitudes and beliefs are so extreme in a destructive way that people become intolerant to them. For example, when someone suggests that a religion is a religion based on sex... they are going to face criticism for posting such nonsense.

One cannot expect people to respect an idea that is ill-conceived and poorly supported.

I have learned on here that if you have an idea that is opposed to the majority's belief system... then you had better present it with a degree of thought behind it. I argue passionately for the death penalty and this seems to be in contrast to what most on here believe. Outside of a couple Byrnzie assaults ( ), this community has been reasonable allowing for discussion to occur.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Godfather...

On a personal note... I think there is a quality human being contained within that mass of skin, muscle and bone that you see looking at you in the mirror.

There is no question that you have presented yourself, at times, in a manner that isn't exactly endearing to some others; but I have seen some of the- if I could be so bold to call them this- 'rough edges' begin to erode.

I certainly wouldn't want you to abandon your core values, but I do feel that moving from some 'extreme' positions to a more 'balanced' position would be better for you.

Of course... feel free to take this message and tell me to stuff myself with it!

Note: I was going to cut and paste to a pm and maybe I should have. It's just that this thread seems to be a bit personal and in the public setting. There have been criticisms levied and I think this serves as something not so critical.

brianlux

Godfather. wrote:

if one person's views or beliefs are not the .."norm" here why are their ideas and post's met with so much anger and hate ? I and a few others have had replys to our posts that show a sign of the same "fear' AND "hate" that we are accused of,any thoughts on that ?


Godfather.

Is it that some people here express hatred toward others or is it that some people express hatred toward certain views? For example, I hate it that some people think fracking and driving huge SUV's is just fine but I don't necessarily hate that person. I have a friend I saw just last night who said those very words and I hate that she feels that way but I don't hate her.

An interesting side note: one of the major forum rules states:

Discuss the topic, not the people discussing the topic. No personal comments.

That's a bit of a conundrum for a topic such as the present one.

backseatLover12

Godfather. wrote:

backseatLover12 wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

if one person's views or beliefs are not the .."norm" here why are their ideas and post's met with so much anger and hate ? I and a few others have had replys to our posts that show a sign of the same "fear' AND "hate" that we are accused of,any thoughts on that ?


Godfather.

Life is 10% of what happens and 90% of the reaction to what happens. It's up to you, how you react.

I gotta say it.........awesome friggin post !


Godfather.

Why thank you but the comment is aimed towards everyone, including the OP of this thread.

I wonder what it is about gay rights, homophobia and the color of a person's skin (Duck Dynasty) that makes people react so full of hating words. Whatever, people need to get over themselves and their hate issues.

gimmesometruth27

"everyone's right, and no one sorry. that's the start and the end of the story."

m. caws

Cosmo

Godfather. wrote:

if one person's views or beliefs are not the .."norm" here why are their ideas and post's met with so much anger and hate ? I and a few others have had replys to our posts that show a sign of the same "fear' AND "hate" that we are accused of,any thoughts on that ?

Godfather.

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It depends on what the topic is and what the viewpoint is, sir.
Example... if the 'norm' is to believe that all people have the right to live and the lone opposition view is that only a select group of people, those whom are like the one expressing the opinion, should have that right... you should expect to be on the receiving end of a ton of disagreements... some of those rebuttals being hostile in nature.
Another example... if the 'norm' is to believe that the Moon is a barren wasteland that is incapable of supporting life... but, your view is that the President is being controlled by a race of beings that live on the dark side of the Moon in order to prevent the course of the United State from fulfilling its true destiny... reverting to the society of 1952, then, again... you should expect a ton of disagreements, most of which question your intelligence and/or sanity.
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So... to avoid these types of reactions from the 'norm'... which the definition of the 'norm' being; "From NORMAL people"... I would suggest that the person who feels targeted should form his opinion in fact and truth. Mostly because normal people of the 'norm' understand it is difficult to argue with fact and impossible to argue with truth.
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Merry Christmas, sir.

Godfather.

BinFrog wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

if one person's views or beliefs are not the .."norm" here why are their ideas and post's met with so much anger and hate ? I and a few others have had replys to our posts that show a sign of the same "fear' AND "hate" that we are accused of,any thoughts on that ?


Godfather.

It's not the message, it's the method. You, of all people, need to learn that. That's my "thought on that".

I love a good debate. You do not post in a way that enables discussion. I can't tell if you purposefully try to piss everyone off who have different viewpoints than you, or if you just don't know how to engage people in a good debate...and frankly I don't care. There's a reason people seem to lash out at you: You don't give them much to work with. You are condescending and mean-spirited, and then you act defensive when people call you out.

And you're acting like you're a victim now? Please.

I will agree that I don't "post in a way that enables discussion".....but I don't believe I'm "mean spirited".....stand tall behind my beliefs and opinion yeah...I have said before to someone else on here that if we had ever met you might think differently,I normally will not argue politics or faith with someone I meet or don't know well ..in fact I keep a small circle of friends/Brothers and sense we all agree on most issues there is no argument
and I can tell you for certin I will never be a victim and don't claim to be,I was just pointing out some thing's and trying not to use other people to make a point.

Godfather.

usamamasan1

Fact and truth

Only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

usamamasan1 wrote:

Fact and truth

Only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

Fact and truth

If a bad guy didn't have a gun he wouldn't need to be stopped by a good guy with a gun.