Slightly off topic: Does anyone know of any interview in which Sean Penn mentioned his reaction to hearing Vedder's music for his film for the first time? I've wondered for a long time how he reacted to hearing those songs.
I used to have the interview saved of Penn and Vedder on Charlie Rose, but it was deleted by Youtube. I remember that he loved the music and came back to Ed looking for more music, filler music to complete the soundtrack. That's when he wrote The Wolf, and another filler song.
I agree with that, he definitely had good priorities in what life is supposed to be about. Imagine if he had been prepared though, he could have done a lot more good for the world if he would have survived.
Like I said I admire him, but his mistake could have been so easily avoided and I believe his convictions also contributed to his death by clouding the reality of his situation. Alaska doesn't forgive.
In what is probably a first, i agree with you on this one, his mistake wasn't so much the seed he had eaten but his preparation before he went into the wild
I figured before that Vedder had given him the finished product, and imagined Penn hearing it for the first time in it's entirety and having his mind blown by the greatness of the thing.
Looks like he was drip-fed it in stages.
I figured before that Vedder had given him the finished product, and imagined Penn hearing it for the first time in it's entirety and having his mind blown by the greatness of the thing.
Looks like he was drip-fed it in stages.
No... Eddie commented on his contribution to the movie at his first Vancouver solo show. He and Penn watched the film at Penn's place and then Eddie went back home crafting the music. He sent Penn the big chunk of it and Penn, from all accounts, was floored.
1/2 mile away there was a cable crossing that had he been prepared with a map or had a discussion with a ranger to let them know he was out there he may have survived. But no, he was stubborn and wanted to evade people.
From Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe ... s#See_also 'Others have pointed out that a map of the area (although apparently not including the location of the hand-powered tram) was found among McCandless's belongings, and refute the accusations that he intentionally discarded this map.'
The 'romantic' elements to this story become lost when you balance it with the tragic end.
I read the book, read various other pieces, and watched the movie. From all accounts left to decipher, Chris had come to terms with his place in the world and was ready to rejoin it.
His 'journey' was no different from many other young people's journeys who seek travel and a departure from the life they are being pushed into. The difference being he never sought the 'comfort' typical travellers afford themselves in countries like Thailand or Costa Rica.
As well, he was going to have to fend for himself without the convenience of a market close to his bungalow. It is here where we might be able to agree that he underestimated his ability to do so. He managed for a while, but the bottom line is he began the process of starving when he finally ventured on foot 'into the wild'. The small rodents and plants he fed on only prolonged the inevitable.
The 'romantic' elements to this story become lost when you balance it with the tragic end.
I read the book, read various other pieces, and watched the movie. From all accounts left to decipher, Chris had come to terms with his place in the world and was ready to rejoin it.
His 'journey' was no different from many other young people's journeys who seek travel and a departure from the life they are being pushed into. The difference being he never sought the 'comfort' typical travellers afford themselves in countries like Thailand or Costa Rica.
As well, he was going to have to fend for himself without the convenience of a market close to his bungalow. It is here where we might be able to agree that he underestimated his ability to do so. He managed for a while, but the bottom line is he began the process of starving when he finally ventured on foot 'into the wild'. The small rodents and plants he fed on only prolonged the inevitable.
He was hungry for a long time.
This really gets to the heart of the matter. A nice way with words here, Thirty.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
The 'romantic' elements to this story become lost when you balance it with the tragic end.
I read the book, read various other pieces, and watched the movie. From all accounts left to decipher, Chris had come to terms with his place in the world and was ready to rejoin it.
His 'journey' was no different from many other young people's journeys who seek travel and a departure from the life they are being pushed into. The difference being he never sought the 'comfort' typical travellers afford themselves in countries like Thailand or Costa Rica.
As well, he was going to have to fend for himself without the convenience of a market close to his bungalow. It is here where we might be able to agree that he underestimated his ability to do so. He managed for a while, but the bottom line is he began the process of starving when he finally ventured on foot 'into the wild'. The small rodents and plants he fed on only prolonged the inevitable.
He was hungry for a long time.
This really gets to the heart of the matter. A nice way with words here, Thirty.
From all accounts left to decipher, Chris had come to terms with his place in the world and was ready to rejoin it.
His 'journey' was no different from many other young people's journeys who seek travel and a departure from the life they are being pushed into. The difference being he never sought the 'comfort' typical travellers afford themselves in countries like Thailand or Costa Rica.
As well, he was going to have to fend for himself without the convenience of a market close to his bungalow. It is here where we might be able to agree that he underestimated his ability to do so. He managed for a while, but the bottom line is he began the process of starving when he finally ventured on foot 'into the wild'. The small rodents and plants he fed on only prolonged the inevitable.
He was hungry for a long time.
Also, let's not forget that he stated how he wished to 'kill the false being within'. The false being meaning that part of him connected to the lies and deceit of his family, and of all the trappings of modern life, which he detested. He was looking for something more honest, more real.
I imagine that coupled with his optimism, and thirst for experience, there was an element of disgust and anger with the modern World.
I've really enjoyed this discussion ... this story has fascinated me for years ... I can relate with Chris on some levels and on others he just makes me question some of his actions and the good people he left behind ... saying that ... I do have an understanding for how he felt towards his parents ... I have always found it so sad and a little ironic that he only realised on his death bed, that he had already found what he had been looking for all along .. in fact, his whole story is a little ironic ... I do at time wish i could do exactly what he did and just leave society behind, regardless of the outcome.
I have taken snippets from Chris's story and positively applied them to my own ... I think I am a better person for having followed his story
Breath, breathe, engulfing .... Consuming, so beautiful ... Life ...
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I used to have the interview saved of Penn and Vedder on Charlie Rose, but it was deleted by Youtube. I remember that he loved the music and came back to Ed looking for more music, filler music to complete the soundtrack. That's when he wrote The Wolf, and another filler song.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004IM ... B004IMKATW
In what is probably a first, i agree with you on this one, his mistake wasn't so much the seed he had eaten but his preparation before he went into the wild
Looks like he was drip-fed it in stages.
No... Eddie commented on his contribution to the movie at his first Vancouver solo show. He and Penn watched the film at Penn's place and then Eddie went back home crafting the music. He sent Penn the big chunk of it and Penn, from all accounts, was floored.
From Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe ... s#See_also
'Others have pointed out that a map of the area (although apparently not including the location of the hand-powered tram) was found among McCandless's belongings, and refute the accusations that he intentionally discarded this map.'
I read the book, read various other pieces, and watched the movie. From all accounts left to decipher, Chris had come to terms with his place in the world and was ready to rejoin it.
His 'journey' was no different from many other young people's journeys who seek travel and a departure from the life they are being pushed into. The difference being he never sought the 'comfort' typical travellers afford themselves in countries like Thailand or Costa Rica.
As well, he was going to have to fend for himself without the convenience of a market close to his bungalow. It is here where we might be able to agree that he underestimated his ability to do so. He managed for a while, but the bottom line is he began the process of starving when he finally ventured on foot 'into the wild'. The small rodents and plants he fed on only prolonged the inevitable.
He was hungry for a long time.
This really gets to the heart of the matter. A nice way with words here, Thirty.
Cheers, Brian.
Also, let's not forget that he stated how he wished to 'kill the false being within'. The false being meaning that part of him connected to the lies and deceit of his family, and of all the trappings of modern life, which he detested. He was looking for something more honest, more real.
I imagine that coupled with his optimism, and thirst for experience, there was an element of disgust and anger with the modern World.
I have taken snippets from Chris's story and positively applied them to my own ... I think I am a better person for having followed his story