A Cautionary Tale...

ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/m ... -1.1542366

Man commits suicide at mall after girlfriend insists on buying more shoes

Tao Hsiao reportedly leaped from a seventh floor balcony at the Golden Eagle International Shopping Center in Xuzhou, China, after a fight with his girlfriend. 'He told her she already had enough shoes, more shoes than she could wear in a lifetime and it was pointless buying any more,' a witness said.

By Michael Walsh / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Monday, December 9, 2013, 2:45 PM


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The body of Tao Hsiao is wheeled away after he jumped over an upper-level railing to his death at the Golden Eagle International Shopping Center in Xuzhou, China.

Tao Hsiao jumped over an upper-level railing to his death at the Golden Eagle International Shopping Center in Xuzhou, China.

An aggravated man leapt from an upper-level mall balcony to his death because his girlfriend refused to stop shopping, witnesses said.

Tao Hsiao, 38, was at the Golden Eagle International Shopping Center in Xuzhou, China, for five hours on Dec. 7 when his lady insisted that they check out another shoe store, reported Chinese news site Hexun.com.

"He told her she already had enough shoes, more shoes than she could wear in a lifetime and it was pointless buying any more," an eyewitness said, according to Gawker. "She started shouting at him accusing him of being a skinflint and of spoiling Christmas, it was a really heated argument."

Tao apparently could not handle any more name-calling — or shopping for that matter.

Security footage shows Tao — in an apparent burst of anger — throw the shopping bags to the ground before jumping over the seventh floor railing.

Tao reportedly crashed into holiday decorations on the ground floor and died upon impact.

Other shoppers gaped as paramedics rushed the man away on a gurney.

A mall spokesperson said that no one else was injured as a result of the suicide and that his body was removed from the premises quickly, according to the Inquisitor news site.

"This is a tragic incident, but this time of year can be very stressful for many people," the spokesperson added.
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  • I'm glad my wife is content with her 8-10 pairs of shoes.
  • CAVSTARR313CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    I wonder what shoes she will be wearing to the funeral...
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  • What the hell was he doing shoe shopping with her in the first place?
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  • PingfahPingfah Posts: 350
    Probably reasonable to assume this man had bigger problems than just his girlfriend's shopping habits.
  • A: What are you doing with somebody like that?
    B: Too bad he didn't land right on top of a Christmas tree like in the cartoons.

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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Makes you wonder why he didn't just tell her to fuck off, and leave. In China, you're looked down on if you get divorced, but this story says she was just his girlfriend. So I suppose he just cracked after 5 hours of mental torture with the materialistic, money-obsessed b****.

    Also, Christmas is not a Chinese tradition, so it's weird that she accused him of 'spoiling Christmas'. Most Chinese don't give two shits about Christmas.
  • PingfahPingfah Posts: 350
    Oh come on, do people really believe this man killed himself because of a 5 hour shopping trip? To the point that they are going to blame this woman's shopping habits for his suicide?

    That's patently ridiculous.
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Pingfah wrote:
    Oh come on, do people really believe this man killed himself because of a 5 hour shopping trip? To the point that they are going to blame this woman's shopping habits for his suicide?

    That's patently ridiculous.


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  • Pingfah wrote:
    Oh come on, do people really believe this man killed himself because of a 5 hour shopping trip? To the point that they are going to blame this woman's shopping habits for his suicide?

    That's patently ridiculous.
    Do u think he jumps if his girlfriend turned to him and said "I'm ready to go home now" instead of going in that last store?
  • PingfahPingfah Posts: 350
    Do u think he jumps if his girlfriend turned to him and said "I'm ready to go home now" instead of going in that last store?

    Do you think you know the first thing about his life, or his mental health based on the content of that "news" story?
  • Strange story, and I'm reading it now, right after I was reading this link and was pretty immersed in this photo of a Chinese man leaping to his death off a bridge moments after his lover jumped. (Perhaps it was over shoes :lol: )

    http://www.viralnova.com/crazy-photos/
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    Perhaps they should have guards on their bridges and mall edges to prevent jumping? :?

    Are these folks way too easily pushed over the edge, literally and figuratively?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    38 years old.
    ...
    Don't they have divorce court in China?
    ...
    And on a side note... seriously, what the fuck is the deal with women and shoes? Are shoes really 'cute'? And if they are, how the hell would a guy know in a shoe is cute or not? They're SHOES!
    ...
    P.S. To you women who insist on dragging your guy to go shoe shopping with you... here's a little 'Guy' secret.
    Us guys will tolerate shoe shopping with you, just in case we get to look down a cute girl's top when she's bending over or up her skirt when she's trying on a pair.
    Get smart, ladies. Leave your guy at home when you go shoe shopping.
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  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    Cosmo wrote:
    38 years old.
    ...
    Don't they have divorce court in China?
    ...
    And on a side note... seriously, what the fuck is the deal with women and shoes? Are shoes really 'cute'? And if they are, how the hell would a guy know in a shoe is cute or not? They're SHOES!
    ...
    P.S. To you women who insist on dragging your guy to go shoe shopping with you... here's a little 'Guy' secret.
    Us guys will tolerate shoe shopping with you, just in case we get to look down a cute girl's top when she's bending over or up her skirt when she's trying on a pair.
    Get smart, ladies. Leave your guy at home when you go shoe shopping.
    My wife learned early in our relationship that if she wants me to wander around the mall with her for more than about 15 minutes without bitching, she needs to take me to the bar first. I can't deal with the mall w/o a couple pops first.
  • sad story.

    that pic of that dude jumping off the bridge gives me the creeps. those people appear to have no idea what is going on behind them.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Pingfah wrote:
    Do you think you know the first thing about his life, or his mental health based on the content of that "news" story?

    Do you?
  • PingfahPingfah Posts: 350
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Pingfah wrote:
    Do you think you know the first thing about his life, or his mental health based on the content of that "news" story?

    Do you?

    No, obviously not. Precisely why I'm not going to suck up this story based on nothing more than witness descriptions of the final actions of this man, and treat it as hard fact as you have done.

    I'm not the one pretending I have the slightest understanding of the issues that led this poor guy to kill himself, I don't and neither do you. Boiling down a man's suicide to an argument over shoes, just because some people said they were arguing about shoes before he killed himself is plainly idiotic though. Excuse me for hoping for even the most half-hearted attempt at critical thinking here.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Pingfah wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Boiling down a man's suicide to an argument over shoes, just because some people said they were arguing about shoes before he killed himself is plainly idiotic though.

    No it isn't.

    It's not unheard of for people to suddenly lose control of their senses in the heat of the moment. The incident with the shoes may have been the straw that broke the camels back. This man may have exhibited no signs of being unstable, or suicidal, up to that moment.
    Sometimes stressful situations can cause people to lose their minds, and act completely out of character.
    If this man was prone to acting irrationally, had little patience, and was generally the type to revert to extremes, then how do you explain the fact that he'd already spent five hours shopping with his girlfriend without blowing his lid?
  • PingfahPingfah Posts: 350
    I wouldn't even try, I would not assume the story is true and start blaming his "bitch" wife though.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Pingfah wrote:
    I wouldn't even try, I would not assume the story is true and start blaming his "bitch" wife though.

    You wouldn't assume the story is true? Despite the fact that there were many witnesses to testify as to it's truth, along with CCTV video footage of the whole 5 hours leading up to the incident?

    Seems to me like you're trying to claim that she was innocent in the whole affair. Why is that? You don't think that some people are so shallow, materialistic, and generally annoying, that they can cause people close to them to crack?

    Or were you just offended by my use of the word 'b****''?
  • PingfahPingfah Posts: 350
    I'm not claiming she's innocent or anything of the sort, I think you know this and are now just being purposefully disingenous.

    As I have now said multiple times, we have no idea why the guy really killed himself, nor do we know anything about this couple's lives. Anybody who just accepts this story at face value has a shockingly low standard of evidence, it's nothing more than throwaway tabloid junk with no inside knowledge of the people involved. A few witness reports is not enough to assume we understand what was going on inside his head.

    But whatever, you're obviously happy to unquestioningly accept it, so fill your boots.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Pingfah wrote:
    I'm not claiming she's innocent or anything of the sort, I think you know this and are now just being purposefully disingenous.

    As I have now said multiple times, we have no idea why the guy really killed himself, nor do we know anything about this couple's lives. Anybody who just accepts this story at face value has a shockingly low standard of evidence, it's nothing more than throwaway tabloid junk with no inside knowledge of the people involved. A few witness reports is not enough to assume we understand what was going on inside his head.

    But whatever, you're obviously happy to unquestioningly accept it, so fill your boots.

    The man cracked after 5 hours of shopping with his petulant girlfriend. We know that much.
    Though if there is more to the story, so be it. But the fact remains he threw himself off the 6th floor of the mall after arguing with his girlfriend over her wanting to buy some more shoes, after having been shopping with her for five hours.
  • PingfahPingfah Posts: 350
    Yes well done, you can read. Have a gold star.
  • jumbojetjumbojet Posts: 1,484
    Yeah, I can see that if you're on a date with your g/f wishing for good things and all you got is 5 hours of shopping in the mall, life can seem pointless.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Pingfah wrote:
    Yes well done, you can read. Have a gold star.

    Sure, good job of ignoring everything else I said.

    You don't believe it's possible that anyone can crack under stress and act out of character, to the point of throwing themselves off a 6th floor balcony, or in front of a train? Well, it happens.

    Carry on.
  • Byrnzie wrote:
    Pingfah wrote:
    Yes well done, you can read. Have a gold star.

    Sure, good job of ignoring everything else I said.

    You don't believe it's possible that anyone can crack under stress and act out of character, to the point of throwing themselves off a 6th floor balcony, or in front of a train? Well, it happens.

    Carry on.

    To crack under the pressure... of shopping? Like bullying in the States, there seems to be a chronic problem with thinking that ending one's life is a likely solution to our problems. And how do we know that this story is factual, other than the guy jumped over a railing and killed himself? The author could have completely made up the story of the shoes, we don't know.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037

    To crack under the pressure... of shopping? Like bullying in the States, there seems to be a chronic problem with thinking that ending one's life is a likely solution to our problems. And how do we know that this story is factual, other than the guy jumped over a railing and killed himself? The author could have completely made up the story of the shoes, we don't know.

    No, not under the pressure of shopping. Under the pressure of a petulant girlfriend who, after five hours of spending his money, started arguing with him, and insulting him in public. Yeah, it sounds kind of pathetic and extreme that the man flew off the handle to point of jumping over the balcony, which may explain why it made the news and has gained so much attention.
    Maybe he didn't intend to kill himself, but just wanted to get away from her in the quickest way possible, and jumped over the side without thinking. This is not the first time such a thing has happened. Why pretend that it is?


    As for it being made up...

    http://www.chinasmack.com/2013/stories/ ... death.html
    '...Police questioned the crowd of surrounding onlookers and they all indicated that the man had jumped off in suicide, with the reason unexpectedly being that his girlfriend wanted to buy something but the man thought it was too expensive. Because the matter is extremely odd, even the British Daily Mail substantially reported it.

    ...According to statements from the crowd of surrounding onlookers, the two were arguing at the time, saying how they had shopped level-by-level continuously for 5 hours, that the man felt very tired and wanted to go home, but the girlfriend insisted on continuing to shop and continuing to make purchases. The two thereupon argued and the man loudly criticized saying: “You have more shoes than you can wear in this lifetime, why do you still want to shop in this shoe store?” The girlfriend retorted: “You cheapskate, you’ve ruined the Christmas mood!”

    The man, presumably unable to handle the provocation, angrily threw all the large and small bags of clothing and goods he had been carrying onto the ground, then immediately climbed over the railing and jumped off from the 7th floor down into the atrium.'
  • PingfahPingfah Posts: 350
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Pingfah wrote:
    Yes well done, you can read. Have a gold star.

    Sure, good job of ignoring everything else I said.

    I addressed everything that was relevant and not wilfully obtuse.
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You don't believe it's possible that anyone can crack under stress and act out of character, to the point of throwing themselves off a 6th floor balcony, or in front of a train? Well, it happens.

    Carry on.

    I'm sure you can point me to the place where I said it was impossible. Oh no, wait, I didn't say that at all. I just said, for the umpteenth fucking time, that it is foolish to accept that explanation wholesale when you know nothing about this man.

    Look, I get it, you just unquestioningly believe everything you read and are incapable of independent thought on the matter. Carry on.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Pingfah wrote:
    I addressed everything that was relevant and not wilfully obtuse.

    Willfully obtuse? The fact that I pointed out that such incidents are not unheard of, constitutes my being willfully obtuse? How d'ya work that one out?


    Pingfah wrote:
    I'm sure you can point me to the place where I said it was impossible. Oh no, wait, I didn't say that at all. I just said, for the umpteenth fucking time, that it is foolish to accept that explanation wholesale when you know nothing about this man.


    No, you said that the concept of someone jumping over the 6th floor balcony due to an argument with his girlfriend is 'ridiculous', and 'plainly idiotic'. Yet such things do happen. Though you clearly wish to pretend that they don't. Why? Because you object to the girl being cast as an annoying bitch? Or are you just continuing to pretend that some people don't commit suicide, or commit other such extreme acts, in the heat of the moment, and in stressful situations, simply because you refuse to back down?
    Pingfah wrote:
    Look, I get it, you just unquestioningly believe everything you read and are incapable of independent thought on the matter. Carry on.

    Yeah, sure. Your obstinacy, and refusal to accept the possibility that the man jumped in the heat of the moment, boils down to my incapacity for 'independent thought'.

    Should I Google a list of other similar incidents where people have cracked and shot their partners, or committed suicide? Would that make you happy? Or will you still continue to regard the possibility of such incidents occurring as 'ridiculous', and 'plainly idiotic'?

    Even if it turns out that this man killed himself for other reasons - despite dozens of witnesses testifying that it was the result of a heated argument, and five hours of putting up with his girlfriends bullshit - that still wouldn't change the fact that people have been driven to such extremes in similar situations.

    Keep flogging that dead horse.
  • Byrnzie wrote:
    Pingfah wrote:
    I addressed everything that was relevant and not wilfully obtuse.

    Willfully obtuse? The fact that I pointed out that such incidents are not unheard of, constitutes my being willfully obtuse? How d'ya work that one out?


    Pingfah wrote:
    I'm sure you can point me to the place where I said it was impossible. Oh no, wait, I didn't say that at all. I just said, for the umpteenth fucking time, that it is foolish to accept that explanation wholesale when you know nothing about this man.


    No, you said that the concept of someone jumping over the 6th floor balcony due to an argument with his girlfriend is 'ridiculous', and 'plainly idiotic'. Yet such things do happen. Though you clearly wish to pretend that they don't. Why? Because you object to the girl being cast as an annoying bitch? Or are you just continuing to pretend that some people don't commit suicide, or commit other such extreme acts, in the heat of the moment, and in stressful situations, simply because you refuse to back down?
    Pingfah wrote:
    Look, I get it, you just unquestioningly believe everything you read and are incapable of independent thought on the matter. Carry on.

    Yeah, sure. Your obstinacy, and refusal to accept the possibility that the man jumped in the heat of the moment, boils down to my incapacity for 'independent thought'.

    Should I Google a list of other similar incidents where people have cracked and shot their partners, or committed suicide? Would that make you happy? Or will you still continue to regard the possibility of such incidents occurring as 'ridiculous', and 'plainly idiotic'?

    Even if it turns out that this man killed himself for other reasons - despite dozens of witnesses testifying that it was the result of a heated argument, and five hours of putting up with his girlfriends bullshit - that still wouldn't change the fact that people have been driven to such extremes in similar situations.

    Keep flogging that dead horse.

    I think what he's saying, Byrnzie, is that this 'incident' was merely the tipping point for an unbalanced individual that was on the brink of suicide to begin with. The story is obviously much deeper than a guy going out of his mind because a 5 hour shoe shopping excursion drove him to madness and despair.

    In reality, even a remotely well-balanced individual would resort to other 'extreme' measures- if so inclined to act out in extreme fashion- before jumping to their deaths (such as slapping their girlfriend, yelling at the top of their lungs, running from the mall without their clothes on, ransacking a shoe store, etc.).
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I think what he's saying, Byrnzie, is that this 'incident' was merely the tipping point for an unbalanced individual that was on the brink of suicide to begin with. The story is obviously much deeper than a guy going out of his mind because a 5 hour shoe shopping excursion drove him to madness and despair.

    In reality, even a remotely well-balanced individual would resort to other 'extreme' measures- if so inclined to act out in extreme fashion- before jumping to their deaths (such as slapping their girlfriend, yelling at the top of their lungs, running from the mall without their clothes on, ransacking a shoe store, etc.).

    Maybe, maybe not. Some people crack and behave out of character. Maybe this dude had other issues. Maybe he'd not been getting along with his girlfriend for a long time before this, and this was the tipping point.
    Or, maybe five hours of shoe shopping and being made to spend his money on her crap, followed by a heated argument in public, in which he felt that he'd 'lost face', conspired to make him flip out and jump over the side.

    I don't know.

    But either way, it's plausible, and far from 'idiotic', and 'ridiculous'.
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