Human's are not from earth

Hugh Freaking Dillon

it's no less believable than some dude getting hung out to dry for 3 days so we could have chocolate bunnies for all eternity.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Pingfah wrote:

The majority of Christians have reconciled evolution and their religious beliefs, the Catholic Church offically endorses the theory. I see no reason why Muslims should not be able to do the same.

Obviously it's not going to mesh with a literalist interpretation of most religious texts, but most religious people aren't literalists.

This was referring to my post? My question had nothing to do with what faith one subscribed to. It had to do with the inherent conflict between two fields of thought.

even flow - question mark

dignin wrote:

even flow - question mark wrote:

sparky_fry wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/human-beings-came-from-another-planet--not-earth--new-book-claims-134335110.html

Anyone else read this book? Its highly suspect, but still an interesting read. The book claims we were placed on earth by about 50,000 years ago. It's argument is that we are not totally suited for this environment. I summarized the points below:

1. The sun hurts our eyes – How have we not evolved to look towards the sun after millions of years of evolution here
2. The sun kills us – How can the sun, which we need, be able to kills us through skin cancer
3. SAD - Other animals migrate or hibernate while we just get depressed
4. Bad Backs – We are from a planet with different gravity and aren’t meant to grow this tall = Bad backs
5. Fossil records – Lack of fossil link between early apes and modern humans has never been found
6. Lack Of body hair – To keep us warm like other animals
7. Hay fever and asthma – After millions of years of evolution we should have adapted to this
8. Diet – We should eat food found in nature. However we are constantly modifying our food (all our produce such as corn carrots) and even cooking the food which is not how it is naturally. We should have evolved to crave natural food
9. Excessive overpopulation – We can’t sustain ourselves
10. Lack of defensive capabilities – If we evolved in East Africa we would have no defensive capabilities to survive the environment, long before we used any type of tool
11. Destroying the environment – we are the only species on earth that changes and destroys its environment by doing what we do naturally
12. Technological Leaps – The jump from Homo sapiens to modern humans is extremely short. It took us 10,000s of years to use rudimentary tools, however only 7000 years for me to use this computer
13. Chronic Illness – No other species on earth experiences chronic illness like we do
14. Unhappiness and depression – Most humans aren’t happy and depression is growing, where as there’s a saying “happy as a pig in shit” we aren’t happy here because we are not from here
15. Self-destruction – turn on the news

You left out the reasons why we don't have a use for our tonsils and appendix.

They pretty much figured out what the appendix is for

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/1 ... 85499.html

Interesting. But the use of the word "may", kind of spells out: we are not sure.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

sparky_fry wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/human-beings-came-from-another-planet--not-earth--new-book-claims-134335110.html

Anyone else read this book? Its highly suspect, but still an interesting read. The book claims we were placed on earth by about 50,000 years ago. It's argument is that we are not totally suited for this environment. I summarized the points below:

1. The sun hurts our eyes – How have we not evolved to look towards the sun after millions of years of evolution here
2. The sun kills us – How can the sun, which we need, be able to kills us through skin cancer
3. SAD - Other animals migrate or hibernate while we just get depressed
4. Bad Backs – We are from a planet with different gravity and aren’t meant to grow this tall = Bad backs
5. Fossil records – Lack of fossil link between early apes and modern humans has never been found
6. Lack Of body hair – To keep us warm like other animals
7. Hay fever and asthma – After millions of years of evolution we should have adapted to this
8. Diet – We should eat food found in nature. However we are constantly modifying our food (all our produce such as corn carrots) and even cooking the food which is not how it is naturally. We should have evolved to crave natural food
9. Excessive overpopulation – We can’t sustain ourselves
10. Lack of defensive capabilities – If we evolved in East Africa we would have no defensive capabilities to survive the environment, long before we used any type of tool
11. Destroying the environment – we are the only species on earth that changes and destroys its environment by doing what we do naturally
12. Technological Leaps – The jump from Homo sapiens to modern humans is extremely short. It took us 10,000s of years to use rudimentary tools, however only 7000 years for me to use this computer
13. Chronic Illness – No other species on earth experiences chronic illness like we do
14. Unhappiness and depression – Most humans aren’t happy and depression is growing, where as there’s a saying “happy as a pig in shit” we aren’t happy here because we are not from here
15. Self-destruction – turn on the news

most of this list can be boiled down to one thing: human egotism/stupidity.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

16. the inability to differentiate between plural and possessive

Pingfah

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Pingfah wrote:

The majority of Christians have reconciled evolution and their religious beliefs, the Catholic Church offically endorses the theory. I see no reason why Muslims should not be able to do the same.

Obviously it's not going to mesh with a literalist interpretation of most religious texts, but most religious people aren't literalists.

This was referring to my post? My question had nothing to do with what faith one subscribed to. It had to do with the inherent conflict between two fields of thought.

And I'm giving an example of some religious people who have resolved such a conflict. I only bring up Islam because I know badbrains is a Muslim, but I don't know whether belief in evolution is common amongst Muslims or not.

No criticism of your post intended.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Pingfah wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Pingfah wrote:

The majority of Christians have reconciled evolution and their religious beliefs, the Catholic Church offically endorses the theory. I see no reason why Muslims should not be able to do the same.

Obviously it's not going to mesh with a literalist interpretation of most religious texts, but most religious people aren't literalists.

This was referring to my post? My question had nothing to do with what faith one subscribed to. It had to do with the inherent conflict between two fields of thought.

And I'm giving an example of some religious people who have resolved such a conflict. I only bring up Islam because I know badbrains is a Muslim, but I don't know whether belief in evolution is common amongst Muslims or not.

No criticism of your post intended.

Just offered it in the interest of clear communication. All is good!

badbrains

Pingfah wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

Pingfah wrote:

The majority of Christians have reconciled evolution and their religious beliefs, the Catholic Church offically endorses the theory. I see no reason why Muslims should not be able to do the same.

Obviously it's not going to mesh with a literalist interpretation of most religious texts, but most religious people aren't literalists.

This was referring to my post? My question had nothing to do with what faith one subscribed to. It had to do with the inherent conflict between two fields of thought.

And I'm giving an example of some religious people who have resolved such a conflict. I only bring up Islam because I know badbrains is a Muslim, but I don't know whether belief in evolution is common amongst Muslims or not.

No criticism of your post intended.

From what I understand in Islam and evolution is very little. I believe, but could be wrong, that Islam def doesn't believe in evolution of any kind.

Jason P

My response to the doctors book ...

sparky_fry

Jason P wrote:

My response to the doctors book ...

Annafalk

Scientologists do they believe in this?
When I think about it, the sun is pretty strong for my eyes I could actually be from out of space.. :think:

Cosmo

I'll take a shot at this:

1. The sun hurts our eyes – How have we not evolved to look towards the sun after millions of years of evolution here
A: The Sun hurts all animal's eyes. My cat can't stare at the Sun... neither can ancient animals, such as crocadiles.

2. The sun kills us – How can the sun, which we need, be able to kills us through skin cancer
A: The Sun kills a lot of animals. Ask the earthworm that wanders on to the sidewalk in the morning.

3. SAD - Other animals migrate or hibernate while we just get depressed
A: We have the means to hibernate. We choose to hibenate in our cubicles at work every day.

4. Bad Backs – We are from a planet with different gravity and aren’t meant to grow this tall = Bad backs
A: Our bad backs ususally come from the things we do... like playing basketball, lifting heavy shit or slouching in our couches for way too many hours... not how it is designed.

5. Fossil records – Lack of fossil link between early apes and modern humans has never been found
A: Maybe we just aren't looking in the right place.

6. Lack Of body hair – To keep us warm like other animals
A: Ever been to the Jersey Shore? Just because people manscape their backs, doesn't mean their backs are hairless.

7. Hay fever and asthma – After millions of years of evolution we should have adapted to this
A: Airborne particulants. Most of the plants and flowers around are not native to your lands. I'm not allergic to pollen... yet.

8. Diet – We should eat food found in nature. However we are constantly modifying our food (all our produce such as corn carrots) and even cooking the food which is not how it is naturally. We should have evolved to crave natural food
A: With the knowledge of fire... comes the hot meal.

9. Excessive overpopulation – We can’t sustain ourselves
A: That is our own stupidity.

10. Lack of defensive capabilities – If we evolved in East Africa we would have no defensive capabilities to survive the environment, long before we used any type of tool
A: We hid in the under brush and were considered prey animals to the early predators, while being predators to the smaller animals, such as rodents, rabbits, insects and reptiles.

11. Destroying the environment – we are the only species on earth that changes and destroys its environment by doing what we do naturally
A: What we are doing is not natural at all. Producing tons of plastics and throwing them into our oceans, thinking they will dissolve is merely attributed to stupidity.

12. Technological Leaps – The jump from Homo sapiens to modern humans is extremely short. It took us 10,000s of years to use rudimentary tools, however only 7000 years for me to use this computer
A: Knowledge leads to innovation.

13. Chronic Illness – No other species on earth experiences chronic illness like we do
A: Tell that to my cat that died of cancer.

14. Unhappiness and depression – Most humans aren’t happy and depression is growing, where as there’s a saying “happy as a pig in shit” we aren’t happy here because we are not from here
A: I don't like shit and i don't want to be in a pit of it. and i'm happy... i deal with the blues now and then, but get over it. And i really don't know if my cat ever gets depressed... he never talks to me about it.

15. Self-destruction – turn on the news[/quote]
A: That is our own doing. We have the ability to choose not to be destructive... but, we don't.

brianlux

Good answers, Cosmo.

Besides so much of this being easily refutable, it's interesting how hard we try to be something other than who and what we are. We have books like the one in question here that propose shaky theories about our "alien origins". We have religions that magically transform us in an "afterlife". We invent cults founded on the idea that by doing so we may be able to contact aliens who will whisk us away. We have indoor philosophies and activities, work and amusements many of which are scarcely of at all based on any connection to the natural world around us and thus alienate ourselves from the natural world and its cycles from which we evolved and belong such that we no longer see ourselves of this world. I don't think we came from anywhere but this planet but at the rate we are going we will, indeed, become aliens upon it.

Last-12-Exit

I was unaware that humans have been on the earth for millions of years.

jumbojet

Why would some aliens bother to put us humans here? Curiosity? Experimentation?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

jumbojet wrote:

Why would some aliens bother to put us humans here? Curiosity? Experimentation?

Harvest us for food. Once we've grown to the number worth their time, they'll come get us.

Jason P

jumbojet wrote:

Why would some aliens bother to put us humans here? Curiosity? Experimentation?

We were causing too many problems on their planet so they flew 21.9 light years to drop us here.

jumbojet

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

jumbojet wrote:

Why would some aliens bother to put us humans here? Curiosity? Experimentation?

Harvest us for food. Once we've grown to the number worth their time, they'll come get us.

Hahaha. I don't think we're that tasty to be farmed for 50,000 years.

OK, another rambling of the mind:

We know the world is made of atoms. But has anyone ever thought that the world might itself be like an atom in a much grander dimension? Have googled this but couldn't find such a hypothesis.

jumbojet

Jason P wrote:

jumbojet wrote:

Why would some aliens bother to put us humans here? Curiosity? Experimentation?

We were causing too many problems on their planet so they flew 21.9 light years to drop us here.

Haha yes, I have some relatives that might cause that to happen.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

jumbojet wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

jumbojet wrote:

Why would some aliens bother to put us humans here? Curiosity? Experimentation?

Harvest us for food. Once we've grown to the number worth their time, they'll come get us.

Hahaha. I don't think we're that tasty to be farmed for 50,000 years.

OK, another rambling of the mind:

We know the world is made of atoms. But has anyone ever thought that the world might itself be like an atom in a much grander dimension? Have googled this but couldn't find such a hypothesis.

According to sharks- the way they spit us out after chomping into us- we may very well be horrible tasting!

As for your second thought... I have considered that as well: just a miniscule, insignificant nothing in the much larger picture. In reality... this is the truth.