Selfies at funerals
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As I mentioned earlier I saw people taking pics of themselves and others at the WTC memorial.
Then when I was in OKC to see PJ I saw people doing the same thing at the Murrah building memorial.
In both cases I felt that for some it might be considered disrespectful.
As for what happened at the Mandela memorial service....it was a celebration of his life not a mourning of his death. This is the way that South Africans memorialize someone when they die. So that dancing, singing, chanting, and yes "selfies" are acceptable.
For those that live in a society where people mourn the deaths of loved ones it could be seen as a lack of respect.
But this is a different society where death is handled differently. I for one completely agree with the celebrating of someone's life rather than mourning their death.0 -
Bentleyspop wrote:As I mentioned earlier I saw people taking pics of themselves and others at the WTC memorial.
Then when I was in OKC to see PJ I saw people doing the same thing at the Murrah building memorial.
In both cases I felt that for some it might be considered disrespectful.
As for what happened at the Mandela memorial service....it was a celebration of his life not a mourning of his death. This is the way that South Africans memorialize someone when they die. So that dancing, singing, chanting, and yes "selfies" are acceptable.
For those that live in a society where people mourn the deaths of loved ones it could be seen as a lack of respect.
But this is a different society where death is handled differently. I for one completely agree with the celebrating of someone's life rather than mourning their death.
Maybe it's just me, but whether grieving or rejoicing or even both - the thought, in that environment, to take a fucking selfie (I've come to loathe the term and the impetus for even taking it) would never enter my mind.
I just don't get the point, and had anyone done that at my father's service, I'd have liked to deck the motherfucker.
To me, it's simply rude...and kind of juvenile.0 -
Jason P wrote:from Mandela's funeral service ...
narcissism or just plain self absorbed ? his wife even looks pisst off
Godfather.0 -
I find it slightly odd that if a 4th person sitting next to them had taken the photo we wouldn't even be having this conversation, but because one of the 3 people in the photo is holding the camera suddenly it's disrespectful?
Colour me sceptical.0 -
hedonist wrote:Bentleyspop wrote:As I mentioned earlier I saw people taking pics of themselves and others at the WTC memorial.
Then when I was in OKC to see PJ I saw people doing the same thing at the Murrah building memorial.
In both cases I felt that for some it might be considered disrespectful.
As for what happened at the Mandela memorial service....it was a celebration of his life not a mourning of his death. This is the way that South Africans memorialize someone when they die. So that dancing, singing, chanting, and yes "selfies" are acceptable.
For those that live in a society where people mourn the deaths of loved ones it could be seen as a lack of respect.
But this is a different society where death is handled differently. I for one completely agree with the celebrating of someone's life rather than mourning their death.
Maybe it's just me, but whether grieving or rejoicing or even both - the thought, in that environment, to take a fucking selfie (I've come to loathe the term and the impetus for even taking it) would never enter my mind.
I just don't get the point, and had anyone done that at my father's service, I'd have liked to deck the motherfucker.
To me, it's simply rude...and kind of juvenile.
What's the difference to taking a selfie and asking someone else to take a photo? I mean honestly its just a picture. i think folks need to climb down from pious mountain over this0 -
satansbed wrote:hedonist wrote:Most of the funerals I've attended have also celebrated life. I don't think that's at issue here.
Maybe it's just me, but whether grieving or rejoicing or even both - the thought, in that environment, to take a fucking selfie (I've come to loathe the term and the impetus for even taking it) would never enter my mind.
I just don't get the point, and had anyone done that at my father's service, I'd have liked to deck the motherfucker.
To me, it's simply rude...and kind of juvenile.
What's the difference to taking a selfie and asking someone else to take a photo? I mean honestly its just a picture. i think folks need to climb down from pious mountain over this
I get that cameras/photographers were there to record the event.
Big difference between that and taking a photo of yourselves while seeming to yuck it up...or even asking someone to take your photo - while at a funeral.
No matter in the end. My opinion on this is as irrelevant as anyone else's.0 -
well of course haters gonna hate. this is obama afterall....
i wish he would have handled himself more presidential at this thing, but it was a festive occasion. many people were celebrating and dancing and singing. they were celebrating mandela's life. still though, i am not a fan of the funeral selfie, no matter who does it.
clearly this was the biggest outrage ever. even more outrageous than the one guy who shut down the whole government because he did not get his way. yeah boehner, i'm looking at you..."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
gimmesometruth27 wrote:well of course haters gonna hate. this is obama afterall....
i wish he would have handled himself more presidential at this thing, but it was a festive occasion. many people were celebrating and dancing and singing. they were celebrating mandela's life. still though, i am not a fan of the funeral selfie, no matter who does it.
clearly this was the biggest outrage ever. even more outrageous than the one guy who shut down the whole government because he did not get his way. yeah boehner, i'm looking at you...
For me, this has/had nothing to do with politics at all but with acting with some respect. That goes for anyone else who felt compelled to take a photograph of themselves while attending a funeral.0 -
Ya know, though, he's not the one taking the selfie. It looks like the girl in the middle is taking the selfie and told the two sitting next to her to "get in" the photo op. So who's really the narcissist? The one who owns the camera and probably had the idea of taking the (ew) "selfie".0
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The Obama thing was bad I guess, but it wasn't a funeral. It was a memorial.
If Mandela's body was there, open casket, then yes it would be very bad. It may have been like that, I don't know. As far as I know it was just a thing to honor his life.
Excuse me if it was indeed an open casket memorial thingy. And excuse my vocabulary and lack of info. It's finals week in school; my brain is fried.~Carter~
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense0 -
backseatLover12 wrote:Ya know, though, he's not the one taking the selfie. It looks like the girl in the middle is taking the selfie and told the two sitting next to her to "get in" the photo op. So who's really the narcissist? The one who owns the camera and probably had the idea of taking the (ew) "selfie".
but people have been doing self portraits for centuries, all that has changed is the technology0 -
satansbed wrote:backseatLover12 wrote:Ya know, though, he's not the one taking the selfie. It looks like the girl in the middle is taking the selfie and told the two sitting next to her to "get in" the photo op. So who's really the narcissist? The one who owns the camera and probably had the idea of taking the (ew) "selfie".
but people have been doing self portraits for centuries, all that has changed is the technology
A self-portrait takes hours to do, and is done by an artist (it took me all night in college to do mine). Not fun for me, anyway. It was an assignment. Relating narcisstic tendencies of wanting to take photos of yourself all the time with your iphone is quite the stretch from a self-portrait. :roll:0 -
backseatLover12 wrote:satansbed wrote:backseatLover12 wrote:Ya know, though, he's not the one taking the selfie. It looks like the girl in the middle is taking the selfie and told the two sitting next to her to "get in" the photo op. So who's really the narcissist? The one who owns the camera and probably had the idea of taking the (ew) "selfie".
but people have been doing self portraits for centuries, all that has changed is the technology
A self-portrait takes hours to do, and is done by an artist (it took me all night in college to do mine). Not fun for me, anyway. It was an assignment. Relating narcisstic tendencies of wanting to take photos of yourself all the time with your iphone is quite the stretch from a self-portrait. :roll:
tbh it sounds more narcissistic to spend hours painting a picture of your self than taking a quick snap.0 -
satansbed wrote:backseatLover12 wrote:satansbed wrote:
but people have been doing self portraits for centuries, all that has changed is the technology
A self-portrait takes hours to do, and is done by an artist (it took me all night in college to do mine). Not fun for me, anyway. It was an assignment. Relating narcisstic tendencies of wanting to take photos of yourself all the time with your iphone is quite the stretch from a self-portrait. :roll:
tbh it sounds more narcissistic to spend hours painting a picture of your self than taking a quick snap.
:fp: If you can't understand art, you won't understand that self-portraits are an extension of an artist's work, not a narcissistic move.0
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