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mrussel1

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I think the Celtics made my point Friday night.  The East is fucking trash.  A 1-seed losing by 40+.  What a fucking joke.

How is the West materially better?  I don't think you've made the point.  The issue is that there's a super team out west and east.  No one had a chance against either of them.  

why is this happening??..its matter of money, of picks, of what??..

Lots of theories... one is that after the Dream Team in 92, the players started to get to know each other better and don't hate each other like they did in previous generations.  They hang out in the summer, vacation, etc. and so the relationships have changed.  Couple that with the obscene money they make both in contracts and endorsements, and it gives them the flexibility to take less to play together.  Golden State lucked into their situation because they don't have four max contracts.  Curry and Green are on relatively small contracts.  We'll see if they stay together. Plus...players want to win championships.  It's funny how in baseball the criticism is that the players are chasing the money, not the WS ring.  But NBA players are being criticized for the opposite.  

23scidoo

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I think the Celtics made my point Friday night.  The East is fucking trash.  A 1-seed losing by 40+.  What a fucking joke.

How is the West materially better?  I don't think you've made the point.  The issue is that there's a super team out west and east.  No one had a chance against either of them.  

why is this happening??..its matter of money, of picks, of what??..

Lots of theories... one is that after the Dream Team in 92, the players started to get to know each other better and don't hate each other like they did in previous generations.  They hang out in the summer, vacation, etc. and so the relationships have changed.  Couple that with the obscene money they make both in contracts and endorsements, and it gives them the flexibility to take less to play together.  Golden State lucked into their situation because they don't have four max contracts.  Curry and Green are on relatively small contracts.  We'll see if they stay together. Plus...players want to win championships.  It's funny how in baseball the criticism is that the players are chasing the money, not the WS ring.  But NBA players are being criticized for the opposite.  

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tempo_n_groove

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I think the Celtics made my point Friday night.  The East is fucking trash.  A 1-seed losing by 40+.  What a fucking joke.

How is the West materially better?  I don't think you've made the point.  The issue is that there's a super team out west and east.  No one had a chance against either of them.  

Cavs, GS and Spurs.  Everyone else is a second class citizen.

Who is the next best player in the east?

Spurs lose Leonard and they fall apart.  How are they a great team with that?  I'm not arguing that seeds 2-4 are better or equal in the East, but what's really the difference who has a better #3 when they don't have a chance to get by the Cavs or Warriors?  It's completely irrelevant who has better second class citizens.

Take Lebron off the Cavs same thing.  

Golden State loses Curry same thing.  Everything facilitates through him.

tempo_n_groove

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I think the Celtics made my point Friday night.  The East is fucking trash.  A 1-seed losing by 40+.  What a fucking joke.

How is the West materially better?  I don't think you've made the point.  The issue is that there's a super team out west and east.  No one had a chance against either of them.  

why is this happening??..its matter of money, of picks, of what??..

Lots of theories... one is that after the Dream Team in 92, the players started to get to know each other better and don't hate each other like they did in previous generations.  They hang out in the summer, vacation, etc. and so the relationships have changed.  Couple that with the obscene money they make both in contracts and endorsements, and it gives them the flexibility to take less to play together.  Golden State lucked into their situation because they don't have four max contracts.  Curry and Green are on relatively small contracts.  We'll see if they stay together. Plus...players want to win championships.  It's funny how in baseball the criticism is that the players are chasing the money, not the WS ring.  But NBA players are being criticized for the opposite.  

Well for a while in MLB it was a win/win with joining the Yankees.  You got both money and a championship.

I agree with GS getting very lucky.  Spurs were very lucky with their drafting also.  Robinson, Duncan, Parker, Ginoboli, hell Leonard they picked up from the D league, he wasn't even drafted.

I also agreeing with the players getting more friendly and wanting to play with each other.  Watch old interviews with Bird, Magic, Jordan, Barkley and they all say the same thing, "I didn't want to be on their team, I wanted to compete against them"

Wobbie

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I think the Celtics made my point Friday night.  The East is fucking trash.  A 1-seed losing by 40+.  What a fucking joke.

How is the West materially better?  I don't think you've made the point.  The issue is that there's a super team out west and east.  No one had a chance against either of them.  

Cavs, GS and Spurs.  Everyone else is a second class citizen.

Who is the next best player in the east?

maybe the greek freak?

sure as fuck isn't paul george.

cutz

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I think the Celtics made my point Friday night.  The East is fucking trash.  A 1-seed losing by 40+.  What a fucking joke.

How is the West materially better?  I don't think you've made the point.  The issue is that there's a super team out west and east.  No one had a chance against either of them.  

why is this happening??..its matter of money, of picks, of what??..

Lots of theories... one is that after the Dream Team in 92, the players started to get to know each other better and don't hate each other like they did in previous generations.  They hang out in the summer, vacation, etc. and so the relationships have changed.  Couple that with the obscene money they make both in contracts and endorsements, and it gives them the flexibility to take less to play together.  Golden State lucked into their situation because they don't have four max contracts.  Curry and Green are on relatively small contracts.  We'll see if they stay together. Plus...players want to win championships.  It's funny how in baseball the criticism is that the players are chasing the money, not the WS ring.  But NBA players are being criticized for the opposite.  

I would also add in that the players get to know each other at a very early age now, because of the AAU Circuit. AAU is , for the most part,  National now so the players get to know each other in HS. Also with Social Media to stay in constant  contact. 

cutz

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I think the Celtics made my point Friday night.  The East is fucking trash.  A 1-seed losing by 40+.  What a fucking joke.

How is the West materially better?  I don't think you've made the point.  The issue is that there's a super team out west and east.  No one had a chance against either of them.  

why is this happening??..its matter of money, of picks, of what??..

Lots of theories... one is that after the Dream Team in 92, the players started to get to know each other better and don't hate each other like they did in previous generations.  They hang out in the summer, vacation, etc. and so the relationships have changed.  Couple that with the obscene money they make both in contracts and endorsements, and it gives them the flexibility to take less to play together.  Golden State lucked into their situation because they don't have four max contracts.  Curry and Green are on relatively small contracts.  We'll see if they stay together. Plus...players want to win championships.  It's funny how in baseball the criticism is that the players are chasing the money, not the WS ring.  But NBA players are being criticized for the opposite.  

Well for a while in MLB it was a win/win with joining the Yankees.  You got both money and a championship.

I agree with GS getting very lucky.  Spurs were very lucky with their drafting also.  Robinson, Duncan, Parker, Ginoboli, hell Leonard they picked up from the D league, he wasn't even drafted.

I also agreeing with the players getting more friendly and wanting to play with each other.  Watch old interviews with Bird, Magic, Jordan, Barkley and they all say the same thing, "I didn't want to be on their team, I wanted to compete against them"

Yes, the Spurs did get Lucky on some of those players. Unless, it was great scouting? 

Leonard was the 15th pick by the Pacers in the First round. He was traded to the Spurs in the George Hill deal, on draft night

23scidoo

I WANT MY STICKER!!!!!!..LOL..
no i don't..you know Tempo..

23scidoo

Wobbie said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I think the Celtics made my point Friday night.  The East is fucking trash.  A 1-seed losing by 40+.  What a fucking joke.

How is the West materially better?  I don't think you've made the point.  The issue is that there's a super team out west and east.  No one had a chance against either of them.  

Cavs, GS and Spurs.  Everyone else is a second class citizen.

Who is the next best player in the east?

maybe the greek freak?

sure as fuck isn't paul george.

Hope he is Wobbie..

HesCalledDyer

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I think the Celtics made my point Friday night.  The East is fucking trash.  A 1-seed losing by 40+.  What a fucking joke.

How is the West materially better?  I don't think you've made the point.  The issue is that there's a super team out west and east.  No one had a chance against either of them.  

why is this happening??..its matter of money, of picks, of what??..

Lots of theories... one is that after the Dream Team in 92, the players started to get to know each other better and don't hate each other like they did in previous generations.  They hang out in the summer, vacation, etc. and so the relationships have changed.  Couple that with the obscene money they make both in contracts and endorsements, and it gives them the flexibility to take less to play together.  Golden State lucked into their situation because they don't have four max contracts.  Curry and Green are on relatively small contracts.  We'll see if they stay together. Plus...players want to win championships.  It's funny how in baseball the criticism is that the players are chasing the money, not the WS ring.  But NBA players are being criticized for the opposite.  

Well for a while in MLB it was a win/win with joining the Yankees.  You got both money and a championship.

I agree with GS getting very lucky.  Spurs were very lucky with their drafting also.  Robinson, Duncan, Parker, Ginoboli, hell Leonard they picked up from the D league, he wasn't even drafted.

I also agreeing with the players getting more friendly and wanting to play with each other.  Watch old interviews with Bird, Magic, Jordan, Barkley and they all say the same thing, "I didn't want to be on their team, I wanted to compete against them"

NBA in the 80s & 90s - "To be the man, you gotta beat the man."
NBA in the 00s & 10s - "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em."

tempo_n_groove

cutz said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I think the Celtics made my point Friday night.  The East is fucking trash.  A 1-seed losing by 40+.  What a fucking joke.

How is the West materially better?  I don't think you've made the point.  The issue is that there's a super team out west and east.  No one had a chance against either of them.  

why is this happening??..its matter of money, of picks, of what??..

Lots of theories... one is that after the Dream Team in 92, the players started to get to know each other better and don't hate each other like they did in previous generations.  They hang out in the summer, vacation, etc. and so the relationships have changed.  Couple that with the obscene money they make both in contracts and endorsements, and it gives them the flexibility to take less to play together.  Golden State lucked into their situation because they don't have four max contracts.  Curry and Green are on relatively small contracts.  We'll see if they stay together. Plus...players want to win championships.  It's funny how in baseball the criticism is that the players are chasing the money, not the WS ring.  But NBA players are being criticized for the opposite.  

Well for a while in MLB it was a win/win with joining the Yankees.  You got both money and a championship.

I agree with GS getting very lucky.  Spurs were very lucky with their drafting also.  Robinson, Duncan, Parker, Ginoboli, hell Leonard they picked up from the D league, he wasn't even drafted.

I also agreeing with the players getting more friendly and wanting to play with each other.  Watch old interviews with Bird, Magic, Jordan, Barkley and they all say the same thing, "I didn't want to be on their team, I wanted to compete against them"

Yes, the Spurs did get Lucky on some of those players. Unless, it was great scouting? 

Leonard was the 15th pick by the Pacers in the First round. He was traded to the Spurs in the George Hill deal, on draft night

My mistake, he was drafted!

So the killer instinct for the Cavs went right out the damn window again...  What the hell happened last night?

23scidoo

Lets go Celtics!!!!

mrussel1

tempo_n_groove said:

cutz said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I think the Celtics made my point Friday night.  The East is fucking trash.  A 1-seed losing by 40+.  What a fucking joke.

How is the West materially better?  I don't think you've made the point.  The issue is that there's a super team out west and east.  No one had a chance against either of them.  

why is this happening??..its matter of money, of picks, of what??..

Lots of theories... one is that after the Dream Team in 92, the players started to get to know each other better and don't hate each other like they did in previous generations.  They hang out in the summer, vacation, etc. and so the relationships have changed.  Couple that with the obscene money they make both in contracts and endorsements, and it gives them the flexibility to take less to play together.  Golden State lucked into their situation because they don't have four max contracts.  Curry and Green are on relatively small contracts.  We'll see if they stay together. Plus...players want to win championships.  It's funny how in baseball the criticism is that the players are chasing the money, not the WS ring.  But NBA players are being criticized for the opposite.  

Well for a while in MLB it was a win/win with joining the Yankees.  You got both money and a championship.

I agree with GS getting very lucky.  Spurs were very lucky with their drafting also.  Robinson, Duncan, Parker, Ginoboli, hell Leonard they picked up from the D league, he wasn't even drafted.

I also agreeing with the players getting more friendly and wanting to play with each other.  Watch old interviews with Bird, Magic, Jordan, Barkley and they all say the same thing, "I didn't want to be on their team, I wanted to compete against them"

Yes, the Spurs did get Lucky on some of those players. Unless, it was great scouting? 

Leonard was the 15th pick by the Pacers in the First round. He was traded to the Spurs in the George Hill deal, on draft night

My mistake, he was drafted!

So the killer instinct for the Cavs went right out the damn window again...  What the hell happened last night?

Thought they could phone it in...  One extra game only hopefully.

igotid88

Congrats LeBron on passing Jordan for career playoff points. 

The Fixer

igotid88 said:

Congrats LeBron on passing Jordan for career playoff points. 

Lebron is the best NBA player ever.  Congrats on passing the Quitter (he also passed him on the all time steals list this week -- already ranks higher in all other stats)

tempo_n_groove

Now what we've been anticipating for months... Cavs VS Golden State!

23scidoo

tempo_n_groove said:

Now what we've been anticipating for months... Cavs VS Golden State!

Third year the same teams..never happened again..

HesCalledDyer

A week off?  God the NBA is fucking LLLAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMEEE!!

mrussel1

HesCalledDyer said:

A week off?  God the NBA is fucking LLLAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMEEE!!

Hey they earned their time off.  Plus they coordinate with the NHL.  

HesCalledDyer

They can have time off when The Finals are over.  They run back and forth for 48 minutes.  A week off. Christ.

The NHL took 3 days.