and they would use you for breeding how bad could it be ? a safe place to live,medical treatment,visiters every day and you'd be fed well without having to chase it down and kill it.
Godfather.
commit a serious crime and you too could have the life!! ... not sure whether you want to call it "breeding" tho ...
Rather than zoos (which, I'm somewhat reluctant to admit, are fun to visit) what animals really need is habitat or at the very least sanctuary. There is, for example, the Elephant Sanctuary in Hohenwald, Tennessee, a large area of land that provides a natural setting for rescue elephant to live. This is not a place people can go and view wildlife but rather a place for these majestic creatures to live as natural a life as possible.
As well as increased natural habitat, I'm an advocate for creating corridors to connect wild lands to allow species to migrate properly. Creating these corridors would do much to insure the continuation of many species of wild life.
The Columbus Zoo, while being at the forefront of animal conservation and having done major renovations over the years at the zoo with better habitat exhibits with Jack at the helm has an open prairie type place called The Wilds here in Ohio. EXpensive as fuck but soemthing I'd like to check out one day.
Wilds specific link but also includes access to the zoo's page too.
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The Columbus Zoo, while being at the forefront of animal conservation and having done major renovations over the years at the zoo with better habitat exhibits with Jack at the helm has an open prairie type place called The Wilds here in Ohio. EXpensive as fuck but soemthing I'd like to check out one day.
Wilds specific link but also includes access to the zoo's page too.
You know it's just not poaching right? plenty of Canadians pay big money to go hunt legally in Africa ...
no ... i get that ... their numbers are definitely dwindling ... it's more the point that you would rather live in a cage ... i don't get that at all ... sure, you get fed ... but that's no life for any animal let alone a lion ...
No I would not want to live in a cage ... fortunately we are not hunted to just be mounted on a wall somewhere. I was being a little sarcastic. I get hunting for substance, I absolutely will never understand spending hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars to mount the animal, that is just sick.
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The Columbus Zoo, while being at the forefront of animal conservation and having done major renovations over the years at the zoo with better habitat exhibits with Jack at the helm has an open prairie type place called The Wilds here in Ohio. EXpensive as fuck but soemthing I'd like to check out one day.
Wilds specific link but also includes access to the zoo's page too.
Jack is one of my heroes. I wish we'd visited the zoo when we were in Columbus a few years back.
still working on improvements. Polar bear exhibit in the last couple years. Have rerouted a road(pre-existed) that cut through land the zoo acquired for additional expansion to the north of the current zoo..
Its come a long way since I was a kid, thats for sure.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I need to check this out. I'm a fan of zoos, etc but of course they have to do it the right way.
there is no right way to keep an orca in captivity. orcas are highly intelligent and family orientated creatures who stay with their mothers their whole lives. when they are captured for profit(which is the only reason i can see)they are taken away from their families, thrown together with other orcas whose dialect they do not speak and kept in what would be for them the equivalent of a bathtub. they are the alpha predator in the sea... they need to hunt, not to have their meals thrown to them and patted on the nose as a reward for being good orcinus boys and girls for amusing the humans. I can not express enough how much hatred I have for the keeping of these magnificent animals in captivity.
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I watched this a week or two ago, and it absolutely broke my heart. I have always been opposed to keeping whales in captivity because it's very clear to me that the facilities aren't even close to adequate for them even in the biggest aquariums/theme parks, but I wasn't aware of all the other horrors that this movie showed us. I am never stepping foot into any place that keeps whales of any kind captive ever again (the Vancouver aquarium keeps belugas in a pathetically small pool, I am sorry to say, but they got rid of the killer whales years ago... and shipped them off to SeaWorld! ). I am an advocate for animal welfare - I am a donating member of IFAW - and this movie should be required viewing for all children so that they understand the reality of these fuckin' places, and understand the animals better as well so that their generation can do better than ours in this matter. I am disgusted that keeping whales in captivity is even legal this day and age. It's absurdly barbaric. Hopefully this movie will help to make it illegal sooner rather than later.
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I need to check this out. I'm a fan of zoos, etc but of course they have to do it the right way.
there is no right way to keep an orca in captivity. orcas are highly intelligent and family orientated creatures who stay with their mothers their whole lives. when they are captured for profit(which is the only reason i can see)they are taken away from their families, thrown together with other orcas whose dialect they do not speak and kept in what would be for them the equivalent of a bathtub. they are the alpha predator in the sea... they need to hunt, not to have their meals thrown to them and patted on the nose as a reward for being good orcinus boys and girls for amusing the humans. I can not express enough how much hatred I have for the keeping of these magnificent animals in captivity.
Exactly right. For so many reasons, there is NO right way to keep Orcas or any other whales in captivity. Ever. :nono: Cincy, I can't imagine that you or anyone else who sees this film or otherwise educates themselves about whales could disagree. It's so blatantly obvious... that's why it's so surprising to me that it's even still legal in North America.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I need to check this out. I'm a fan of zoos, etc but of course they have to do it the right way.
there is no right way to keep an orca in captivity. orcas are highly intelligent and family orientated creatures who stay with their mothers their whole lives. when they are captured for profit(which is the only reason i can see)they are taken away from their families, thrown together with other orcas whose dialect they do not speak and kept in what would be for them the equivalent of a bathtub. they are the alpha predator in the sea... they need to hunt, not to have their meals thrown to them and patted on the nose as a reward for being good orcinus boys and girls for amusing the humans. I can not express enough how much hatred I have for the keeping of these magnificent animals in captivity.
I need to check this out. I'm a fan of zoos, etc but of course they have to do it the right way.
there is no right way to keep an orca in captivity. orcas are highly intelligent and family orientated creatures who stay with their mothers their whole lives. when they are captured for profit(which is the only reason i can see)they are taken away from their families, thrown together with other orcas whose dialect they do not speak and kept in what would be for them the equivalent of a bathtub. they are the alpha predator in the sea... they need to hunt, not to have their meals thrown to them and patted on the nose as a reward for being good orcinus boys and girls for amusing the humans. I can not express enough how much hatred I have for the keeping of these magnificent animals in captivity.
I was mixing topics. Was talking about "zoos".
Zoos pretty much make me feel disgusted by the fact that I'm human. Yeah yeah, breeding programs, etc etc. I get the arguments for the very good zoos (of which there are very, very few).... it's still a bunch of people paying to gawk at a lot of miserable penned animals.
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Humans will use up hundreds of acres to play stupid fucking golf, and give a wild animal a 100x100 cage to rot in so that they can observe them.. totally fucked.
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Humans will use up hundreds of acres to play stupid fucking golf, and give a wild animal a 100x100 cage to rot in so that they can observe them.. totally fucked.
Whoa whoa whoa...
Zoos and aquariums suck... but leave golfing out of this one. I like hitting a ball and then walking to it and hitting it again.
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:nono: homie don't play that game......
Godfather.
Wilds specific link but also includes access to the zoo's page too.
http://www.thewilds.org/default.aspx
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
No I would not want to live in a cage ... fortunately we are not hunted to just be mounted on a wall somewhere. I was being a little sarcastic. I get hunting for substance, I absolutely will never understand spending hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars to mount the animal, that is just sick.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Its come a long way since I was a kid, thats for sure.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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then youd be acting against your nature...
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there is no right way to keep an orca in captivity. orcas are highly intelligent and family orientated creatures who stay with their mothers their whole lives. when they are captured for profit(which is the only reason i can see)they are taken away from their families, thrown together with other orcas whose dialect they do not speak and kept in what would be for them the equivalent of a bathtub. they are the alpha predator in the sea... they need to hunt, not to have their meals thrown to them and patted on the nose as a reward for being good orcinus boys and girls for amusing the humans. I can not express enough how much hatred I have for the keeping of these magnificent animals in captivity.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I was mixing topics. Was talking about "zoos".
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Whoa whoa whoa...
Zoos and aquariums suck... but leave golfing out of this one. I like hitting a ball and then walking to it and hitting it again.