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i just saw into the wild.
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and i must say that i can't believe how he was portrayed at the end as a kind of hero for someone who basically comitted suicide.
he was stupid. arrogant. and the antithesis of everything the authors he thought he understood spoke of. he had everything he was looking for. people loved him. people missed him. the only part i thought was really fitting was when he knew he was dead and he knew he had made a mistake. happiness is only real when it is shared (or whatever he wrote along those lines).
if it takes death for that kind of epiphany then i don't want one..what a waste of life.
he was stupid. arrogant. and the antithesis of everything the authors he thought he understood spoke of. he had everything he was looking for. people loved him. people missed him. the only part i thought was really fitting was when he knew he was dead and he knew he had made a mistake. happiness is only real when it is shared (or whatever he wrote along those lines).
if it takes death for that kind of epiphany then i don't want one..what a waste of life.
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I feel for him and his family, but he's no hero. He got what was coming to him.
Well...at least he wasn't a "cookie cutter" spoiled brat kid! I admire that he said "fuck you" to standard thinking. Many people are too scared to venture out of their comfort zone. He wasn't.
At the same time he was selfish when it came to the people that he supposedly loved... and loved him.
None of us walked in his shoes...so I will respecfully not pass judgment.
i don't think he was a coward. i think he was a foolish kid who couldn't "see the forest through the trees". his ideals and way of thinking weren't bad or wrong. he was just foolish to think he could do something like that without knowing what he was doing.
when a fool plays with nature the fool will almost always die.
i can't believe how many people don't understand the power of nature and give it the respect it's due. i spent a lot of time in the ocean and from experience you would be a fool not to respect it and you would be a fool to not have fear of it..same goes for a place like alaska..
i see the opposite........
go to college, get a job, make money settle down and lead the american life. thats a waste of life to me.
so death is better? death at 23 or 24? what do you know about life at that age?
I agree with you...Money does not dissolve the desire to get out and explore the world and the need to get away from everyday life - especially when you are young.
I guess either you relate or you don't, i get why he went up there i think.
well. we can only speculate as to if he knew the risks and if he decided it was worth it. but somehow i doubt starving/poisoning himself to death was what he was going for and i doubt he thought it was worth it.
happiness is only real when shared.
that sure sounds like a man who decided that dying alone in the middle of nowhere was worth it.
i figure the title:
I JUST SAW INTO THE WILD
would give it away.
but hey. i understand.
Depending on the person, you could know a little or a lot.
I don't think that Chris was trying to be a hero. Maybe it was selfish, maybe it was dumb. I think he just wanted to find his own way and not just follow the formula. In the end he may have chose the wrong path, but at least he tried a different way (this alone makes him courageous). Plus, he got to live out experiences and see things that most of us never will.
RIP, Chris.
I'll ride the wave where it takes me...
It was a decent movie but at times I thought it was too heavy handed, and you can tell that it was directed by Sean Penn, who's not exactly the most experienced of directors.
And to say he may have had a mental illness is bullshit. Doing what he loved, even though it was dangerous, is crazy? Sounds like any big wave surfers or extreme sportsman is mentally ill then.
You're free to have your opinion, but we'll never know, will we?
I'll ride the wave where it takes me...
isnt there a statute of limitations on these things? the movie has been out forever
How is accidentally eating an edible root that had a toxic mold on it suicide? The whole point of the movie was missed by you obviously.
I think the guy had mental illness or is extremly dumb. I don't think doing what you love even though it is dangerous is dumb. But I think trying to do it without having any idea of what your doing is incredibly stupid. I mean from what I read this guy knew very little about how to survive out doors. You bring up big wave surfers as a comparison, but I don't think any surfer starts out doing 40 foot waves. And a big wave surfer will usually have a guy on a wave run to help them out in case of danger.
This guy went to Alaska with limited training and had no one to bail him out in case of emergency, it is totally not the same thing.
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Maybe the story is more about appreciating what you have (family, friends , love ..etc).
People tend to take things and the people in their lives for granted and seem to lose that perspective.
Regardless of what the author/writers intended, sometimes there are good lessons, reminders and wisdoms within the story, that maybe they didn't really mean to be the main storyline or focus; but no less significant.
i don't think the book or movie made him to be a hero. he had nature lust (the montages try to portray a lot of that). i don't get the suicide take, he walked into nature overconfident...not to die. he tries to save himself, but can't. In the end of the movie he seems to make peace with who his "society" self is, i don't remember if that's true in the book.
btw: love the f'n soundtrack even if some of the songs do seem like the cliff note versions
he went out there totally unprepared to stay as long as he did. going to alaska with a bag of rice and a .22? eating plants will only get you so far and a .22 is useless when there isn't anything to shoot.
so no map. not enough supplies....brings me to call it an indirect suicide.
Would I have read the book or seen the movie if Ed hadn't done the score? Maybe. I was drawn to it by the music and by the discussions I've read here. Would it matter either way?
How many people a year trek into the wilderness? How many die?
How many people get into cars? How many die? How many do they kill?
People who walk free on this earth may die. People who drive on this earth may die and may kill.
Which is worst?
The Outside Mag. reporter who wrote the book wrote that he died of a sad mistake as old as human interaction in nature. He ate the vicious historic 'LOCO' compound by assuming the seeds of a plant with edible tubers had edible seeds as well. The author said that this chemical and his low weight did him in.
A sad tragedy like a bad turn on a blind curve. He paid for his innocent mistake do you rub it in!
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